Topic: Accusing BitsPoker - page 13. (Read 11961 times)

Well obviously my interest shifted away from poker and to making a successful site. I'll say that I didn't win anything or go out of my way to stalk any users and break them, if that's what people think. On the contrary, I set up freerolls, tried to create tournaments with overlays. Meanwhile I realized we do need to either start profiting immediately (which is silly to assume, and I did not expect we would profit anytime soon), or we need funds from outside. My own funds ran dry because I was invested in ASICMiner @ 2BTC/share and it dropped to .25. When I entered the team (appropriate word to use if all responsibility is assumed to be mine? :p), I had some BTC left over and really thought ASICMiner would head back up. However I didn't solely fall back on that, I realized I needed to constantly bringing up the subject with Cyrus about seeking a plan to make sure we don't get into a bad spot, even if it requires selling the site. Cyrus style seemed to be to sit back and just let me take all the shit. I guess he wants to reclaim ownership of the site and paint me as the sole reason for the site failing. Neat plan, guy.

 I'm just throwing my thoughts out there. You guys are both deflecting blame, and nobody is putting up any information. Blockchain info. Where did player deposits get transferred to? Where did the payouts get stored? Was the player deposit money used for personal expense,or operating costs? The money should be easily tracked to a point.
 Also I think it may have been less of an issue if you had not denied having a player account. Maybe you could have resigned to just playing in freerolls, and not ring games. Is this part of the reason that ring games were always dead? As long as were communicating here(except Cyrus, he's already put his one post in for the day his reputation is enough to protect him from us lowly card players) let's get as much truth out as possible.

Again, I started off as a player. I still played from time to time but I wasn't anymore admin than Cyrus was. You want your funds, I understand that. We all want back what we put into this site, because the holder of the domain (the real owner) was never committed to the success of the site and as someone who put all my resources into it, I don't see how you're going to claim I had some sort of plan to take chips off players. Not at all, I wanted players to get a break from the alternative trash and find an honest game on our site. My playing on the site was strictly to get a feel of the community, the games I launched (wanted to see if they were set right), and also just to keep myself from logging into the alternative sites as I am a poker player myself and got involved for the very reason that I feel there is room for something better. I really thought Cyrus saw things the same way and we could salvage what resources we have to make it happen. You can go along with whatever theory you wish, however.

 So deadgiveaway is our admin? Even after he insisted that he wasn't a site admin just trying to swindle chips out of players.

Heavily edited reddit post, but I think you'll get the idea.
http://www.reddit.com/r/BitsPoker/comments/1tjz8u/bitspokerlegit_site_or_just_one_creative_dude/

OK, so now I'm leaning towards the idea that you bought into this site thinking you would just take players chips, and now your plan has backfired leaving legit players hanging. We need some absolute truth here, because there is too much available information, and pretty sure our admin lives in the states which makes this a dangerous game for him.


http://pastebin.com/XpB4qHsD forgot about the pastebin. Anyone else have anything to add this would be a good time.

It seems the ownership sits on a pendulum swing based on the success it experiences. Since I ran out of funds, now he's running for the hills?

 The problem I have here is the communication. Where is this phantom partner? Have you contacted him? I like to think I'm pretty patient, but the players at this site are not getting any answers. I have looked at the evidence that has been presented, and I am calling shenanigans. Whether it is one owner or another at fault is not the concern of the players that have gotten screwed over here.
 It seems that having this kind of thing hanging over your head would demand your attention to the fullest until it is resolved, but you don't seem to be interested in making it clear what happened here.
 Do we have to start a new post in the scam report section to get answers? If it is your site FIX IT. If it is not your site contact whoever owns it and FIX IT.

Hi, I'm the admin you hired and I haven't made a single satoshi either. In fact, I dug to the depths of my own money because I wanted it to succeed. Probably 14 BTC deep or more. How much of it went to the players?

Furthermore, I started off as a player just like these others. I'm just as disappointed as they are and feel like my time has been wasted.

I moved it in this thread because it was offtopic to that thread. I replied via PM to the questions I have been asked in PM. Please refrain from calling me names.
I wasn't the one managing BitsPoker and haven't made a single satoshi out of it, on the contrary.
You guys want to talk and see what can be done about it, fine by me, I'm more than willing. But pe polite about it. Thanks.

 It's pretty obvious he moved this thread away from his current scam so he could ignore it. He will not even show his face in this thread. We get screenshots because you are too much of a coward to face the accusations,and resort to PMs with one person so everyone involved doesn't see the whole story. I'm not sure why you are a moderator on this forum, unless this site is a hub for scammers. I'll be sure to spread the word. Oh after a little searching I see that there are a lot of scammers involved with this site. Makes perfect sense now.
 

 Maybe also explain why player deposits went to a wallet used for gambling on satoshi dice?
 While you're at it why don't you change the name of this thread to reflect your involvement instead of hiding behind the bitspoker name so your investors don't read it.

 So this PM is full of contradictions. If you're going to be a good scammer you should get your story straight.
 
 Players are the ones who got screwed, and I'm sure businesses will be the ones to get screwed on your next "non-profit" scam. Maybe in Romania it is different, but if any part of this is in the US we have laws protecting people from this. Whether or not BTC is a currency what it amounts to is fraud.
 Good luck in your future endeavors Mr. Onosie, be sure to stay ahead of the law.

 I made a deposit at bitspoker of ~350 chips. They have a minimum withdraw of 500 chips. A couple days later most of the tournaments were pulled from the site leaving no players, and no interest in playing.
 I ask that the minimum withdraw be removed, and allow people to get out instead of having their funds tied up on a site that has been terminated.
 It is very easy to brush it off and say " well there are ring games, and some tournaments still posted.", but without players there is nothing. There are no players, just people waiting for answers. There will be no new player because nobody trusts the site.This reflects poorly on anyone connected with Bitspoker.
 I certainly am not about to deposit more money to get to 500 chips so it can be stuck on your site as I have been told that even people who are over the minimum for withdraw can not get their funds. All in all I would not trust anyone associated with Bitspoker for anything. Funds were obviously mismanaged, blame is being bounced between absentee owners, and players are left hanging because of it.
 Luring people in with a schedule of tournaments, and then pulling any games that create interest is fraudulent. It's time to own up to what has occurred, and let people know. Deflecting blame is not helping, and the players are in the process of piecing together the truth. Situations like this will not go very far in promoting Bitcoin as a viable alternative. The general public will not run the risk of someone anonymously scamming them out of coin with no recourse.

In the Auctions section BitsPoker is listed for auction. 

From your reply here it is unclear who is doing the auctioning.

The following was posted on GAB 2 days ago by the rep.  It was in response to me not being able to withdraw and getting an error message. 
Is this actually going to happen?

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Sorry for that message, I'm not sure why it says that. I'm not the coder and I would find that annoying to be honest.

We'll deposit more BTC soon. Seems the bigger withdraws happened first.

I split the offtopic replies from the other thread.

BitsPoker was indeed started by me, but for some time now a great deal of it was sold to an investor under the premise that he would cover expenses(including running expenses and promotions).
I continued working at the project(didn't get paid or anything). I did respond to most of the PMs sent to me, but am not responsible for this situation.

I didn't delete these posts, because I'm not hiding anything. But however I would really like to help with the situation in any way I can.

As said he runs BitsPoker.  I played there till recently and when I tried to withdraw I couldn't.  My emails went unanswered.  I PMd Cyrus here and he responded but did not to a second PM.  I have been unable to for ~2 weeks.  Others are also in this situation.  How many people are affected or how much btc is unknown.

can u explain a little more what are u talking about ? do you have any proofs ?
Cyrus is a well respected member here, and more of that, our moderator