Acorn M.2 FPGA based GPU Accelerator - page 22.

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Quote from: vapourminer on December 01, 2018, 06:46:35 AM

Quote from: evlo on December 01, 2018, 06:11:39 AM

So if I understand this thread correctly
- currently there is no miner that can you acorn for acceleration of gpu mining
- currently there is no working miner that can use acorn for standalone mining
- no verified info on how many rx570s on eth/xmr can 1 acorn accelerate when/if it will work with some miner
- no verified info on how many 1060s on eth can 1 acorn accelerate when/if it will work with some miner
is that correct?

yes, except your 2nd point. there is a standalone unofficial zen protocol miner. my two 215+ and 101 get me around 925 mhs zen protocol. thats probably about average for my acorns, my 215+ at 190 mhz the 101 at 220 mhz. they are in a nest4x. they can go higher im still messing with them.

Quote from: vapourminer on November 29, 2018, 07:14:48 AM

there is an unofficial alpha standalone miner for 215+ only [EDIT all acorns now] here, useful for testing basic setups:

https://thefpgaforum.com/threads/alpha-zen-protocol-215-acorn-miner-solo.57/#post-297

youll need the acorn drivers, cant find the link atm, will post if i can find them, but they are pinned on the fpga discord i believe.

EDIT: windows acorn driver
www.airsquirrels.com/sqrl/AcornDriversWin-1.0.0.msi

linux driver

www.airsquirrels.com/sqrl/AcornDriversLinux-1.0.0.tgz

How are you running your 101 acorn? I've been sitting here looking at mine for a week and SQRL Research says be patient, we will release software soon.

vapourminer

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: evlo on December 01, 2018, 06:11:39 AM

So if I understand this thread correctly
- currently there is no miner that can you acorn for acceleration of gpu mining
- currently there is no working miner that can use acorn for standalone mining
- no verified info on how many rx570s on eth/xmr can 1 acorn accelerate when/if it will work with some miner
- no verified info on how many 1060s on eth can 1 acorn accelerate when/if it will work with some miner
is that correct?

yes, except your 2nd point. there is a standalone unofficial zen protocol miner. my two 215+ and 101 get me around 925 mhs zen protocol. thats probably about average for my acorns, my 215+ at 190 mhz the 101 at 220 mhz. they are in a nest4x. they can go higher im still messing with them.

Quote from: vapourminer on November 29, 2018, 07:14:48 AM

there is an unofficial alpha standalone miner for 215+ only [EDIT all acorns now] here, useful for testing basic setups:

https://thefpgaforum.com/threads/alpha-zen-protocol-215-acorn-miner-solo.57/#post-297

youll need the acorn drivers, cant find the link atm, will post if i can find them, but they are pinned on the fpga discord i believe.

EDIT: windows acorn driver
www.airsquirrels.com/sqrl/AcornDriversWin-1.0.0.msi

linux driver

www.airsquirrels.com/sqrl/AcornDriversLinux-1.0.0.tgz

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So if I understand this thread correctly
- currently there is no miner that can you acorn for acceleration of gpu mining
- currently there is no working miner that can use acorn for standalone mining
- no verified info on how many rx570s on eth/xmr can 1 acorn accelerate when/if it will work with some miner
- no verified info on how many 1060s on eth can 1 acorn accelerate when/if it will work with some miner
is that correct?

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Thanks a lot Elder III

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Quote from: Iomgui on November 30, 2018, 10:57:54 PM

Hello everyone,

I went here out of curiousity and now I m excited again to make some tests (i built so many rigs for friends and me, so much that i stopped, bored to death, unless a friend really needs help). It s like i was discovering the RIG building and optimisation again

I know its alpha, but i d like to buy a Nest2G card with 4 acorn 215 to test 2 different configuration (i guess the nest2g can drive all 4 GPUS plugged in USB using risers).

But of cours i have a lot of questions i dont know where to find answers :
- where can be downloaded the alpha mining program ?
- how is managed powered for the card when plugged in USB directly to nest2G (yes it will have the riser power and the direct power but wont it be missing the power it would have had from the PCIe where the riser is plugged ?

How to join a forum, community, source of information (i will do my job and search but i just need to be sure information is out somewhere i can access before ordering)

and yes i dont expect ROI from 4 accorns, it will be a drop in my glass of RIGS, but i expect test, failures, new challenges ... excitement in a worl that became dominated by "plug and play ASIC" (i dont blame them, i own quite a few)

Many thanks for your help and thanks for reading me

Here is a link to the FPGA Discord server where there is allot of information, including links to the new FPGA forum.

https://discord.gg/y5Qrsxa

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Hello everyone,

I went here out of curiousity and now I m excited again to make some tests (i built so many rigs for friends and me, so much that i stopped, bored to death, unless a friend really needs help). It s like i was discovering the RIG building and optimisation again

I know its alpha, but i d like to buy a Nest2G card with 4 acorn 215 to test 2 different configuration (i guess the nest2g can drive all 4 GPUS plugged in USB using risers).

But of cours i have a lot of questions i dont know where to find answers :
- where can be downloaded the alpha mining program ?
- how is managed powered for the card when plugged in USB directly to nest2G (yes it will have the riser power and the direct power but wont it be missing the power it would have had from the PCIe where the riser is plugged ?

How to join a forum, community, source of information (i will do my job and search but i just need to be sure information is out somewhere i can access before ordering)

and yes i dont expect ROI from 4 accorns, it will be a drop in my glass of RIGS, but i expect test, failures, new challenges ... excitement in a worl that became dominated by "plug and play ASIC" (i dont blame them, i own quite a few)

Many thanks for your help and thanks for reading me

vapourminer

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: huntingthesnark on November 30, 2018, 04:31:33 AM

It's still not clear what the optimum setup is, mainly because initial figures for boosting 1080ti and Vegas are pretty much 1:1 acorn to gpu, which would get very expensive for a 6-8gpu rig.

That ratio will presumably change per algo, so when the miner software is released it'll be a bit clearer where the sweetspot is. Personally, I've just chucked a nest and two 215+ onto a standard crappy mining MB in the full x16 slot, see how that does before creating a bespoke rig...

yup pretty much the same here, got 2x215+ and a 101 on a nest 4x in a x16 (@x8 gen3) slot on my onda d8p rig right now, when the squirrel miner is released i will see how it goes and bring my gigabyte z97x into it as well, it can do x8 x4 x4 at on its three x16 size slots.

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Quote from: vapourminer on November 28, 2018, 03:40:57 PM

Quote from: Marvell2 on November 28, 2018, 01:32:14 PM

well they cost close to double what you can get a 580 for , yeah power use is great an all but i can't see how its worth it at the current time. Especially as you need a very good motherboard cpu and ram which is not what
traditional rigs conist of so you would have to upgrade a bunch of parts.

It all depends on if the software is way better, say for x16 and phi

yeah if this were all it could do i would say its a fail. have to wait for the real miner with gpu acceleration to see if its worth it.

PCIe lanes are the key, and how they are connected.. ones direct to cpu vs ones controlled by the chipset. the acorns and gpus need to be on one or the other, crossing can be a bottleneck. at least from what understand, which is admittedly not a whole lot.

Quote from: androstan1234 on November 28, 2018, 02:17:37 PM

Going to try the nest x4 with 4x CLE-215+ on my TB250+ PRO with 6x 1080Ti. May just standalone mine on the acorns if I don't have the bandwidth to boost the gpus well.

from what ive heard, most boards made for mining are not going to do well as most slots (aside from slot 0 perhaps) wind up being x1 gen1. my onda d8p is in this class. with these boards there will be bottlenecks on some or all algos. probably depends on the acorn, card and algo.

my gigabyte z97x should be able to handle two 215+ and two 1080ts all at x4 gen 3 direct on the mobo. so no bottleneck (I hope). maybe more with thhe nest2x and cards on risers but i want to stay away from risers right now.

but lotta people will likely be doing new builds.

It's still not clear what the optimum setup is, mainly because initial figures for boosting 1080ti and Vegas are pretty much 1:1 acorn to gpu, which would get very expensive for a 6-8gpu rig.

That ratio will presumably change per algo, so when the miner software is released it'll be a bit clearer where the sweetspot is. Personally, I've just chucked a nest and two 215+ onto a standard crappy mining MB in the full x16 slot, see how that does before creating a bespoke rig...

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Yes they're available. Just ordered 4 CLE-215+ this week and delivery scheduled for monday next week

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im confused

store front says : " PREORDER NOW "
... but if you clicking on any item its says " IN STOCK " November batch
Anyone can confirm its available or not ?
Would be happy to try some of those hardware's on my nVidia Titan V / i9-7980XE build

still have some free PCI-E slots available Wink

Quote from: xxcsu on August 07, 2018, 11:19:15 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on August 07, 2018, 09:52:34 PM

This is just to say mine is bigger then yours Grin

I know those feelings Wink

Built one computer few months ago , when nVidia Titan V come out

It really was not built for mining

but actually pretty much used for mining right now

Mobo : EVGA-299DARK
CPU : Intel Core i9-7980XE
Mem: G.Skill TridentZ RGB Series 64GB (4x16GB)
M2 Drive : Samsung 960 Pro 512GB
PSU: eVGA 1600 T2
VGA : 2x nVidia Titan V
and a few more goodies

2X water block for Titan V / water block for cpu / thermaltake water cooling sets ...

vapourminer

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: xpforex on November 29, 2018, 05:44:44 PM

hello
any windows driver for the AcornNest X4 ?

thanks

the next4x and nest2x do not need windows drivers at this time, as the only miner at this point (the unofficial alpha zen protocol standalone miner) does not need it for the acorns plugged into them to work. when installed they will show up in device manager as "base system device" (or something like that) with an exclamation point and no driver, but will work fine with the alpha 0.11d standalone miner.

gpuhoarder mentioned when the driver is needed they will release it. i assume thats when the official squirrel miner is released.

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hello
any windows driver for the AcornNest X4 ?

thanks

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: philipma1957 on November 28, 2018, 11:18:21 PM

Yeah I have really good boards for the gear threadripper 1920x on a taichi x399

with 32gb ram.

pretty much exactly what you should should use with the 2card nest

yup that will be a beast with acorns and top tier gpus. seen some other folks listing treadripper builds for acorns here and there. mighty pricey vs what miners typically build (cheap with very limited other uses) but threadripper/x399 builds (and their intel high end desktop counterparts) are very future proof, and useful way beyond mining if/when the time comes.

Quote from: R0land on November 29, 2018, 02:16:45 AM

Quote from: R0land on July 14, 2018, 10:28:06 AM

I can´t find the download link.
And where are the open API doc and specifications ?

I still didn't get an answer after months !

official miner is still not out.

there is an unofficial alpha standalone miner for 215+ only [EDIT all acorns now] here, useful for testing basic setups:

https://thefpgaforum.com/threads/alpha-zen-protocol-215-acorn-miner-solo.57/#post-297

youll need the acorn drivers, cant find the link atm, will post if i can find them, but they are pinned on the fpga discord i believe.

EDIT: windows acorn driver
www.airsquirrels.com/sqrl/AcornDriversWin-1.0.0.msi

linux driver

www.airsquirrels.com/sqrl/AcornDriversLinux-1.0.0.tgz

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Quote from: R0land on July 14, 2018, 10:28:06 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 14, 2018, 09:01:53 AM

Quote from: WhyMe on July 14, 2018, 08:42:37 AM

Anyone have seen any piece of software for this ?

yes

http://www.squirrelsresearch.com/sqrl-miner/

I can´t find the download link.
And where are the open API doc and specifications ?

I still didn't get an answer after months !

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'The right to privacy matters'

Yeah I have really good boards for the gear threadripper 1920x on a taichi x399

with 32gb ram.

pretty much exactly what you should should use with the 2card nest

vapourminer

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: Marvell2 on November 28, 2018, 01:32:14 PM

well they cost close to double what you can get a 580 for , yeah power use is great an all but i can't see how its worth it at the current time. Especially as you need a very good motherboard cpu and ram which is not what
traditional rigs conist of so you would have to upgrade a bunch of parts.

It all depends on if the software is way better, say for x16 and phi

yeah if this were all it could do i would say its a fail. have to wait for the real miner with gpu acceleration to see if its worth it.

PCIe lanes are the key, and how they are connected.. ones direct to cpu vs ones controlled by the chipset. the acorns and gpus need to be on one or the other, crossing can be a bottleneck. at least from what understand, which is admittedly not a whole lot.

Quote from: androstan1234 on November 28, 2018, 02:17:37 PM

Going to try the nest x4 with 4x CLE-215+ on my TB250+ PRO with 6x 1080Ti. May just standalone mine on the acorns if I don't have the bandwidth to boost the gpus well.

from what ive heard, most boards made for mining are not going to do well as most slots (aside from slot 0 perhaps) wind up being x1 gen1. my onda d8p is in this class. with these boards there will be bottlenecks on some or all algos. probably depends on the acorn, card and algo.

my gigabyte z97x should be able to handle two 215+ and two 1080ts all at x4 gen 3 direct on the mobo. so no bottleneck (I hope). maybe more with thhe nest2x and cards on risers but i want to stay away from risers right now.

but lotta people will likely be doing new builds.

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Got a shipment notification today on my 4x CLE-215+, 2x CLE-101, nest x2 and nest x4.

Going to try the nest x4 with 4x CLE-215+ on my TB250+ PRO with 6x 1080Ti. May just standalone mine on the acorns if I don't have the bandwidth to boost the gpus well.

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Quote from: Hueristic on November 28, 2018, 11:57:02 AM

Quote from: vapourminer on November 28, 2018, 09:47:29 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on November 27, 2018, 08:20:44 PM

Any hashing numbers

on zen protocol in stand alone mode (ie no gpu acceleration, purely the 215+ itself), around 380 mhs for a 215+ @ ~185 clocks. at ~15 watts. 2 core miner (0.11d). someone mentioned thats about what a rx580 does, dunno myself. ive clocked mine up to 191 with no issues. there is no real "stock" clock on acorns as it depends on the bitstream, but 170 (or maybe it was 150?) or so is more or less the recommended starting point for this particular bitstream.

keep in mind this is alpha, unofficial software, and not officially by squirrel.. this is from gpuhoarder done as a quick and dirty proof of concept kind of thing. real numbers will have to wait for the official squirrel miner.

So, still waiting on the bitstream you need to boost your gpu's?
I would have thought that would have been the first released.
I wonder if they must be custom for each algo, I wouldn't think so.

well they cost close to double what you can get a 580 for , yeah power use is great an all but i can't see how its worth it at the current time. Especially as you need a very good motherboard cpu and ram which is not what
traditional rigs conist of so you would have to upgrade a bunch of parts.

It all depends on if the software is way better, say for x16 and phi

vapourminer

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: Hueristic on November 28, 2018, 11:57:02 AM

So, still waiting on the bitstream you need to boost your gpu's?
I would have thought that would have been the first released.
I wonder if they must be custom for each algo, I wouldn't think so.

yup, still waiting. "soon (tm)" is the standard reply when folks ask. a week or two has been mentioned here and there by some people but i dont think they were affiliated with squirrel.

from what i understand, the squirrel miner is an all in one miner that will be updated with new algos as time goes on.

not having the official miner right now is disappointing for sure but it is what it is.

but alpha testing with gpuhoarders unofficial miner is fun i must admit. but not everyone is a hardware tinkerer like i am.

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Quote from: vapourminer on November 28, 2018, 09:47:29 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on November 27, 2018, 08:20:44 PM

Any hashing numbers

on zen protocol in stand alone mode (ie no gpu acceleration, purely the 215+ itself), around 380 mhs for a 215+ @ ~185 clocks. at ~15 watts. 2 core miner (0.11d). someone mentioned thats about what a rx580 does, dunno myself. ive clocked mine up to 191 with no issues. there is no real "stock" clock on acorns as it depends on the bitstream, but 170 (or maybe it was 150?) or so is more or less the recommended starting point for this particular bitstream.

keep in mind this is alpha, unofficial software, and not officially by squirrel.. this is from gpuhoarder done as a quick and dirty proof of concept kind of thing. real numbers will have to wait for the official squirrel miner.

So, still waiting on the bitstream you need to boost your gpu's?
I would have thought that would have been the first released.
I wonder if they must be custom for each algo, I wouldn't think so.

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