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i didn't even read all that.  So what's going on with ActM these days?  I haven't really been paying attention.  Is this supposed to start trading yet?
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Minerpart is definitely the most emotional investor in this thread.  I thought at one time it was me, but he takes the cake.   Cheesy

Is it just me or does anyone else think this is a very sad post from VE?

VE three points for you:

1) I haven't posted in this thread for NINE days! For you to drag up this old post when I'm not even around is honestly quite tragic. Get a life man. Stop obsessing over me. I know I make incredibly good and memorable points (clearly memorable for you!) but you don't need to be my Mo. 1 fan dude - it's embarrassing for me nevermind you.

2) Emotion is soooo..... wrong? Eh? You are making fun of someone getting pissed off which is frankly immature - schollboy stuff. You piss me off with your ignorance, your pathetic threats to shoot middle aged businessmen, your threats against their female family relatives, your threats to visit them in person and hopes that they can 'dodge a bullet', Also you selling 9mm ammo on this site pisses me off. You mischievously and dishonestly reporting the company I invested in to the authorities pisses me off too. If me being pissed off with an immature and pathetic little man like you is a laughing matter then lets laugh.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Maybe we should all be Mr Spock?

3) Listen up little man. You may act the tough guy on here ('meet me and I will destroy you') LOL but the reality is something different. The reality for you is that if this company goes to the wall because of you (or if people THINK you had a part to play in it) there will be a shitload of VERY emotional investors out there. I'm sure you know exactly what I mean. I wouldn't waste my time with you, you are as I said, pathetic. I would however do my best to have you brought to justice for your threats to life - but others my not see legal justice as being the right course. All I'm saying MR VE is that people can get VERY emotional when you are responsible for destroying their life savings. That's the sort of emotion you won't be laughing at dear boy.

Have a nice day.  Cheesy
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Only a sad little man would threaten a middle-aged businessman with a gun and then pretend he is selling 9mm ammunition on here. You are pathetic. A pathetic runt of a man who needs to threaten strangers on a forum with violence to feel like a tough guy!! Grow the fuck up! Jesus are you twelve or something?

If you met me - blah fucking BLAH! You are a dumb fuck too aren't you? You think anyone invested in the company is related to the ceo?! What a total DUMB ASS! I'm in the frigin UK if you don't believe me ask for hard evidence.

My tip to you is STF up and stop taking the steroids you gym-monkey. I will seriously put my coin into uncovering your identity and having you charged if you annoy me anymore. If the ceo knows who you are it would be easy for me to serve papers on you. You are a fool and a very stupid immature little man. Again stop harassing my investment or I will see you go to court for your crimes. Idiot.

oh noes - minerpart is going to cry to the CEO of bitcoins!   you better pray to satoshi that he doesnt get your mailing address and start spamming you with flyers and handwritten insults

ps: minerpart is implying he is a middle-aged business man? Considering the use of at least 10 insults and 3-4 actual slurs it sounds more like a 22-year old living in the southern USA



Minerpart is definitely the most emotional investor in this thread.  I thought at one time it was me, but he takes the cake.   Cheesy
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I don't believe he's being investigated.  He's shown no proof of it.  He likely doesn't want to put the shares out there because he'd have to explain why there are no dividends.  A great many of the fanboys think he is storing their "profits" in their dividends and as soon as they are released they will get them.  They also believe that sales of the current miners are being split up and going into those shares they don't have but believe they will one day get.

I think some of them are motivated by fear.  If they just let Ken do his thing, one day he'll be able to give them their money that they are hoping he has been good about.  Any talk of lawsuits or SEC means they'd get nothing, so they just accept the good and ignore the bad and hope they see their cash again one day.

From Ken's point of view, it makes no sense to make the shares available.  He would have to do a bunch of work and he gets nothing for it.  He already has everyone's money.  The hardware that everyone paid for is just going to his pockets.  Great deal for Ken!  Not so good for shareholders, which I'm one of.  Thankfully I didn't invest very much. 

Why nobody tries to sue him to get a piece of what he currently still has is anyone's guess.  They are all just going to wait until the money is exhausted and the miners are gone and then post up about how mad they are and how someone else should sue Ken.  Bitter disappointment awaits...

Some folks still think Ken is actually working on the 28nm chip.  Crazy. 
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Conspiracy theory #9969+1:  Ken's not being investigated by the MSD.  The whole thing's just more smoke.  <==Not saying this is true (and don't really care), but does anyone have evidence other than "but Ken wouldn't lie"?
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Ken is claiming that the reason it is okay for the other exchanges to trade is because 'they were listed before the investigation'

I don't know enough about law to be sure, but I smell bullshit. Shares on bitfunder and btct were listed before the investigation, were they not?

Also, if he doesn't want to 'pour gas' on the situation, why not HALT the trading going on in other exchanges? Wouldn't that be the SAFEST move??

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Explain how you were allowed to list shares on cryptotrade?

The shares was listed on crypto-trade before the MSD Investigation.




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And now for some tabloid-style theories
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Conspiracy theory #345: VE is actually a sock of Ken, reporting himself to the MSD in order to prevent whales from tanking the price. This also gives him a scapegoat (think: "We can't release the names of our ___ because that time VE harassed eAsic")

or...

Conspiracy theory #9969: Mircea Popescu HIRED Ken to run this front of a business. 'Why,' you ask? To distract from his own slowly dying exchange and SEC investigation! To point out the 'failings and scams' in every place that is not MPex, by staging one himself. All while making some money in the process. It would explain the undying dedication to defaming ActM.

or...

Conspiracy theory #88993: Ken's just a bad communicator, and is becoming another start-up statistic. Most likely scenario, but pretty boring.

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EDIT: My point above is that no one has ANY idea what is going on. Investors shouldn't be so complacent just because Ken is actually answering questions. I've seen a lot of "Oh well... we just have to wait for CC, I guess. Okay!"

I'm not even heavily invested and I can't take that as an answer without more explanation. I don't understand how some of the larger shareholders aren't causing more of a ruckus.
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Eh, works for Ken.  I mean, the guy raises millions on a promise to develop his own ASIC and make miners.  A year later, he buys 200 boards from HashFast, and his "investors" are convinced that he's legit.  Of course, they don't have their "virtual profit shares," so it doesn't make much difference Cheesy
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MSD is the new NDA I guess  Wink

Enjoy the next few months of this
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Have anyone else , except Bargraphics , received their Prospector Boards ?

I converted my November Paid Pre-Order to Prospector boards 12 days back .
Its been showing ''Shipped'' Since 2 days , But i have not been provided with any tracking number .

What is the status Ken , Please provide the tracking info .


You should be able to contact customer service with issues like these. I'd be curious to hear how easy it is for customers to get in touch with VMC through the proper channels. Could you try and report back?

I have ask the project manager to have the staff enter the tracking information into the shopping cart.

Guys , I have finally received the tracking number , and it shows ''Picked Up'' .
I got a bit confused as i thought it to be a DHL shipping , But i read it here , that ken stated FED-Ex guys will be picking it up .
So , i tried the tracking number on Fed-Ex page , It worked Smiley

I appreciate it Ken , Sorry to bug you with tons of messages :p


I cant believe this is happening .
After waiting for almost 20 days , I receive only 1 prospector board , and not 5 which i ordered .
Ken , this is really not fair .

You made me wait for so long , i placed and order for 5 Prospector boards and you just send me 1 .
I really can't believe this is happening .

Ken , where are my other 4 boards ?

Guys here are the images of my delivery :- http://imgur.com/a/7Azsb

Ken , this is not right buddy .
I paid you full amount in November , and after 5 months , i get 1 prospector board .

Please , ship the rest 4 cards immediately .

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I am planning on doing the verification process sooner.  There are are number of events which are affecting the process.


Can you elaborate in what exactly is affecting the process? You've told us before that the verification site is completed and you just needed to upload it. So what's the issue?
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You said you are working on some ideas regarding getting us access to our shares.  Can you explain what these are please?

I can't at this time due to the MSD Investigation as they are reading the forum.
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Cheesy
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Hi Ken,

What is the time frame for listing our shares on an exchange?  Is it days, weeks or months?

I think it will be sooner rather than later; however, it is somewhat controlled by the MSD Investigation.

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If there must be a further delay, will you consider completing the verification process sooner and before we have access to our shares? This will create a better mood amongst shareholders and would be a good PR move.  If this isn't going to happen please explain why it is not possible.  If it can be done, could you tell me how soon you could do it.

I am planning on doing the verification process sooner.  There are are number of events which are affecting the process.

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Are you able to pay out dividends to bitcoin addresses before the shares get listed on an exchange?  This would also be a good PR move on your part.

At the moment the MSD Investigation is controlling this.

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You said you are working on some ideas regarding getting us access to our shares.  Can you explain what these are please?

I can't at this time due to the MSD Investigation as they are reading the forum.

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If the MSD investigation is preventing you from listing our shares then can you explain why shares continue to be tradable on two other exchanges and why you didn't cease this activity to when you became aware that you couldn't list the tendered shares from Bitfunder.

The shares on the exchanges were being traded before the MSD Investigation.

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If this final question can't be answered for legal reasons, I understand, however I would really appreciate you giving as much info as you can. 

I want to get the shares trading; however, I don't want to pour gas on the MSD Investigation.  I have a number of solutions to the problem, one of which is getting the shares registered.  The problem with bitcoin exchanges are that they are not registered.  So, my thinking is CC.  CC is not an exchange, it is a way shareholders can direct trade shares with each other.  So, my thinking is if I can get the shares registered, then shareholder could use CC to trade direct and the SEC would not have a problem with that as long as the shares are registered.

Thank you.
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Strange, isn't it?

Magzy probably accounts for the 24 hour period of volume when he made that post.

It was several thousand shares, about 3 bitcoin worth.

Apart from that there has been no volume for a week.
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Why is there being no action taken to recover the alleged $250,000 + lost to MT GOX?

This is the class action lawsuit filed.
Here is the suit contact the court.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/209823896/Greene-v-MtGox (http://www.scribd.com/doc/209823896/Greene-v-MtGox)

Unless the Gox $250k was another lie?

and asking for it in court would be a felony?




If you knew anything about law, in particular class action suites you would know that if the suit is won then the court would direct MtGox to send all the class members the information needed to recover their funds. 

Yep I stand corrected. You're correct.

Magzy.

I will post this here. Your recent post in the official thread stated that the recent announcement had caused you to sell 'all your shares'.

Yesterday, you had mentioned that you were now a shareholder in ActM, indeed you made a fairly lengthly post detailing the sums and why you thought ActM is a great buy.

You also mentioned that you purchased these shares on Cryptotrade.

So it is curious to note that after looking at the recent trades on Cryptotrade that there has only been one sell order today, for a single share at 0.00061.

The above doesn't seem to add up. Perhaps ActM was such a great buy you only decided to purchase a single share?

Strange, isn't it?
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Ad maiora!
I dont always bleed money out of every orifice and flush it down the toilet, but when i do... I like to hire a bunch of lawyers because looks legit.
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Lulz.  Ken is The Final Boss!

Weekly Update 4/16/2014
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MSD Investigation:  I will be talking with our legal council as to what action I can take with the shares in the next few weeks.  I know everyone is ready to start trading; however, I am in a difficult position at the moment.  I am working on solutions to this problem.  Long term for shareholders, I think CC is the answer.

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Ken, as a lawyer, it's 'suit' not 'suite' Smiley
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Why is there being no action taken to recover the alleged $250,000 + lost to MT GOX?

This is the class action lawsuit filed.
Here is the suit contact the court.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/209823896/Greene-v-MtGox (http://www.scribd.com/doc/209823896/Greene-v-MtGox)

Unless the Gox $250k was another lie?

and asking for it in court would be a felony?




If you knew anything about law, in particular class action suites you would know that if the suit is won then the court would direct MtGox to send all the class members the information needed to recover their funds. 

If you lost $250,000 to gox why would you not attend meetings with attorneys as well as other plaintiffs and court sessions to monitor the progress of the class action lawsuit? What a fucking joke it's not 15 dollars over a stick of faulty ram it's $250,000 why are you not the one to file your own suit, the idiot who did this only had $40,000 in gox.  You need to involve yourself in this preceeding as it will benefit the outcome.  Or are you too fucking scared to show your face on anything official again and again and again and again?
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In Cryptocoins I Trust
This is how I feel about now.. I wish life was a cartoon. Smiley

http://youtu.be/ZomwVcGt0LE
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Hi Ken, Kris committed to come back to me over 2 weeks ago regarding my query, but I haven’t heard back from her nor from anyone at VMC.

I’m one of your very early pre-order customers (order QNSJBYJUB - August 13) and you and I spoke back in November when VMC was planning to delivery gear by the end of Dec, beginning of Jan at the latest. We then agreed on what my miner’s specs were going to look like given the initially ordered machine was no longer going to be sustainable nor profitable due to shipping delays.

Kris then told me a few weeks back that you were finally about to deliver and your posts/updates seems to imply that you’re now at that stage.

The issue here is that while I should be expecting to be one among your early deliveries, I still don’t know what exactly I’m going to receive. Kris committed to confirm within a couple of days from my email what the exact specs would be to fairly allow me to decide whether I want a refund or keep my order, but all I got is silence.

Given I’ve kept faith in you and been waiting for 7 months now, could you kindly confirm how much hashing power does the miner you’re planning to send me has and when should I expect to receive it by? Before you answer, I pre-empt I expect a RADICAL hashing increase from what you offered me in November. 

Thanks


You have the patience of a saint.

you should ne in the official forum asking this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/vmc-official-virtual-mining-corporation-discussion-206488

Ken will usually get back with a list of excuses followed by promises that will never materialise.

There's a load of us in the same boat.
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