Topic: Advice when you are going a bit far in gaming and betting - page 50. (Read 7496 times)

Quote from: bettercrypto on June 04, 2023, 12:17:20 PM

i guess what i mean is, with these smaller crypto casinos, you can deposit and play before filling out any information. with a brick casino's site you can't deposit without adding your bank info or cc... so if you're on the self block list you are stopped before you can relapse.

As I understand this, you mean to say that on a reputed big casino where KYC is mandatory, the casino has all over data. And if you start to lose more, you should move yourself in self block list (i don't know if this feature exists in casino sites) and you are not allowed to play further until you unblock yourself.

Anyways keep in mind again this is the gambler's decision and even without including yourself in the self block list, the gambler can control himself and refrain from gambling if he is willing to stop. However, most gamblers fail to have control over their emotions.

It's mandatory for casinos to have option for self-exclusion. Without that they can't have a gambling licence.
And it's not like you can unblock yourself at any time. It used to be quite easy to find a workaround for these but laws are getting tighter on this, as there's no point having self exclusion if you can just undo that so easily. That wouldn't be self exclusion, it would be just "not gambling".

This is true. The problem on self exclusion was a user can always register on different casino to play again if his addiction kicks in. This is the advantage of casino being accessible online because players has a lot of way to still play despite their account is on self exclusion status.

I think knew this that’s why they ate just adding this feature for compliance only but they are not very strict on it’s implementation because some user still bypass it through the use of vpn abnd new register account.

It depends on each gambler who wants to do self-exclusion and if the gambler seriously has the desire to exclude himself to stop addiction, he will definitely not do anything related to gambling and even better, the gambler will stay away from the internet.
Because the internet is one of the triggers for a gambling addict to return to gambling in all ways so staying away from the internet is a good way for me.

I don't think that it's really possible for a gambler to live without internet. I think in this age and time no one will be able to live without an internet connection. Internet is a necessary thing for this time and restricting yourself from using it is not going to be helpful in reducing the addiction.

Those who avoid something for sometime are mostly reattracted to that thing with higher intensity. And, in this case if a gambler is going to restrain from online casinos than things will be even more worse for that person. It's always better to limit the usage of those casino sites in order to decrease the intensity of the addiction.

I agree that if a gambler has made the decision that he/she is going to give up the addiction of gambling then the person will do their best to avoid any activity that takes them towards gambling. They will have to focus on other things and have conversation with loved ones so that the intensity of the addiction starts reducing every day. However, it isn't an easy thing to give up an addiction, it requires a lot of effort and will power to be successful in this endeavor.

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Quote from: AbuBhakar on June 04, 2023, 01:17:27 PM

i guess what i mean is, with these smaller crypto casinos, you can deposit and play before filling out any information. with a brick casino's site you can't deposit without adding your bank info or cc... so if you're on the self block list you are stopped before you can relapse.

As I understand this, you mean to say that on a reputed big casino where KYC is mandatory, the casino has all over data. And if you start to lose more, you should move yourself in self block list (i don't know if this feature exists in casino sites) and you are not allowed to play further until you unblock yourself.

Anyways keep in mind again this is the gambler's decision and even without including yourself in the self block list, the gambler can control himself and refrain from gambling if he is willing to stop. However, most gamblers fail to have control over their emotions.

What do you mean by self-block list? But I agree with what you said that as long as the gambler can control himself while playing gambling, there is still a big chance that he will change or stop his inclination to play gambling, this is true.

Because once a gambler can no longer control himself, it only shows that there is already a sign of gambling addiction and this is a problem for such a gambler. Because controlling emotions is definitely not going well because of addictions.

Obviously the emcoines next to the addiction is the most dangerous thing that can happen, because the adrenaline in people is always very harmful, it is difficult to control things when they get out of control, I think that when you enter a casino you have I have the predilection that anything can happen , you can lose what you enter in the casino or multiply it and what almost always happens is that you lose money , and for this reason you should not be sad or fall into depression or enter a casino is committing the money that is going to be risked , that is why the problem of addiction is so dangerous when it is not attacked.

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Quote from: m2017 on June 04, 2023, 10:26:43 AM

i guess what i mean is, with these smaller crypto casinos, you can deposit and play before filling out any information. with a brick casino's site you can't deposit without adding your bank info or cc... so if you're on the self block list you are stopped before you can relapse.

As I understand this, you mean to say that on a reputed big casino where KYC is mandatory, the casino has all over data. And if you start to lose more, you should move yourself in self block list (i don't know if this feature exists in casino sites) and you are not allowed to play further until you unblock yourself.

Anyways keep in mind again this is the gambler's decision and even without including yourself in the self block list, the gambler can control himself and refrain from gambling if he is willing to stop. However, most gamblers fail to have control over their emotions.

It's mandatory for casinos to have option for self-exclusion. Without that they can't have a gambling licence.
And it's not like you can unblock yourself at any time. It used to be quite easy to find a workaround for these but laws are getting tighter on this, as there's no point having self exclusion if you can just undo that so easily. That wouldn't be self exclusion, it would be just "not gambling".

This is true. The problem on self exclusion was a user can always register on different casino to play again if his addiction kicks in. This is the advantage of casino being accessible online because players has a lot of way to still play despite their account is on self exclusion status.

I think knew this that’s why they ate just adding this feature for compliance only but they are not very strict on it’s implementation because some user still bypass it through the use of vpn abnd new register account.

It depends on each gambler who wants to do self-exclusion and if the gambler seriously has the desire to exclude himself to stop addiction, he will definitely not do anything related to gambling and even better, the gambler will stay away from the internet.
Because the internet is one of the triggers for a gambling addict to return to gambling in all ways so staying away from the internet is a good way for me.

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Quote from: o48o on June 04, 2023, 12:55:32 PM

This is just the basics, but anyone should be aware of it:

Budget: set it BEFORE you start gambling and stick to it.
Have a break from time to time, it is important to let your brain stop and consider.
Avoid drugs / drink as much as possible, they will make you loose some control innevitably.
Seek help if you feel you are no longer in control. Make a phone call to a friend or go out and speak with someone.

Anything else anyone can think of? Like... read this post before gambling? Tongue

What about stopping gambling and betting? Can you direct your energy in a positive and creative direction, and not in a senseless waste of time chasing a win? Gamblers don't admit it, but the main goal is still getting a win, and not a process. If you want money, then start working and earn money, and not lose your last money in slots. That is if you've already gone a bit far in gaming and betting.

I can agree that there are not such things like free lunch and miraculous wining of huge amount of money in gambling. However, not all gamblers play jut hoping to get rich but they really enyoj the process.
I also think that very few gamblers can actually make enough for a living, for majority this is just for fun and probably some extra money from time to time
And for those who are already addicted is not so easy to stop. I believe that most very active gamblers have specific mindset that is not so easy to understand for those who are not into gambling.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on June 03, 2023, 06:48:52 PM

i guess what i mean is, with these smaller crypto casinos, you can deposit and play before filling out any information. with a brick casino's site you can't deposit without adding your bank info or cc... so if you're on the self block list you are stopped before you can relapse.

As I understand this, you mean to say that on a reputed big casino where KYC is mandatory, the casino has all over data. And if you start to lose more, you should move yourself in self block list (i don't know if this feature exists in casino sites) and you are not allowed to play further until you unblock yourself.

Anyways keep in mind again this is the gambler's decision and even without including yourself in the self block list, the gambler can control himself and refrain from gambling if he is willing to stop. However, most gamblers fail to have control over their emotions.

It's mandatory for casinos to have option for self-exclusion. Without that they can't have a gambling licence.
And it's not like you can unblock yourself at any time. It used to be quite easy to find a workaround for these but laws are getting tighter on this, as there's no point having self exclusion if you can just undo that so easily. That wouldn't be self exclusion, it would be just "not gambling".

This is true. The problem on self exclusion was a user can always register on different casino to play again if his addiction kicks in. This is the advantage of casino being accessible online because players has a lot of way to still play despite their account is on self exclusion status.

I think knew this that’s why they ate just adding this feature for compliance only but they are not very strict on it’s implementation because some user still bypass it through the use of vpn abnd new register account.

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Avoid drugs / drink as much as possible

Drugs and alcohol is number one for gambling addiction because it add more excitement and good feeling on that adrenaline rush ( my own experience)

One more thing to consider is activities, it’s so important to have other activities or hobbies to do at home or outside and replace that empty time you spend in gambling by your hobbies such as working out, practicing sport, trips or games with friends.

Usually gambling will be attached to alcohol and drugs but usually it is done when playing a land casino or at an online casino with friends, but I think it's fun to play alone with just a cell phone so I can avoid alcohol and drugs so I can focus on playing gambling and looking for pleasure in every game.

So far, I admit that sports can also help us to fill our free time or for example take up a hobby that keeps us busy so we don't have to be fixated on filling our time by just looking for the pleasure of playing gambling, but at least spending our free time with other hobbies, I usually use it to bicycle. it's healthier makes the mind more positive

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i guess what i mean is, with these smaller crypto casinos, you can deposit and play before filling out any information. with a brick casino's site you can't deposit without adding your bank info or cc... so if you're on the self block list you are stopped before you can relapse.

As I understand this, you mean to say that on a reputed big casino where KYC is mandatory, the casino has all over data. And if you start to lose more, you should move yourself in self block list (i don't know if this feature exists in casino sites) and you are not allowed to play further until you unblock yourself.

Anyways keep in mind again this is the gambler's decision and even without including yourself in the self block list, the gambler can control himself and refrain from gambling if he is willing to stop. However, most gamblers fail to have control over their emotions.

It's mandatory for casinos to have option for self-exclusion. Without that they can't have a gambling licence.
And it's not like you can unblock yourself at any time. It used to be quite easy to find a workaround for these but laws are getting tighter on this, as there's no point having self exclusion if you can just undo that so easily. That wouldn't be self exclusion, it would be just "not gambling".

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Those are actually good little pieces of advice imo. As you said I believe casual gamblers should set a budget limit before they even start. For example, you could say "As a gambler", I will only allow myself to spend $100 this week on gambling, and the following week I'll limit it to $50, and so on. It's important not to exceed this limit under any circumstances. Even if you experience losses it's better to stop and avoid the temptation to use more money.

If you can't handle to this practice, I'm certain you'll find yourself on the negative side of gambling losing a lot of money that you wouldn't even anticipate losing. It's important to recognize the seriousness of this issue and the potential problems it can lead to.

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on June 04, 2023, 09:40:42 AM

Anything else anyone can think of? Like... read this post before gambling? Tongue

For gamblers who feel they may be dealing with addiction it is important for them to seek some help from others, whether it be close friends or family members as you mentioned and make sure to get forced by taking breaks time to time.

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I do know someone very close who was addicted to gambling, he lost his life by suicide and the letter he wrote is so sad, he so much believed in gambling as the only way to get is life together and gambling took everything from him, gambling addiction is something that affects the way gamblers think, do not get in such corner.

You don't have to plan a life changing solution with gambling, it's not good for your health and for your future, there is assurance that you will lose, that's why it's called gambling, I think people should try to understand what gambling is before they start thinking that they can get rich through gambling, I have never had such thought in my head and I will never do that to myself.

It's sad to see someone close to gambling addiction to the point of having to end his own life because gambling has taken everything from him. He should have stopped before it was too late, despite losing almost everything he could have. But he has to tell people close to him so that people close to him can really know how to help him. Without it, no one could help him, which would end his life.

That's why we shouldn't depend on gambling and never think gambling can make money. Many people have tried but failed and lost everything; that person is an example. Getting rich from gambling is possible but we shouldn't try it because the risk behind it is not worth what we will sacrifice.

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Quote from: dewez on June 01, 2023, 08:39:40 PM

i guess what i mean is, with these smaller crypto casinos, you can deposit and play before filling out any information. with a brick casino's site you can't deposit without adding your bank info or cc... so if you're on the self block list you are stopped before you can relapse.

As I understand this, you mean to say that on a reputed big casino where KYC is mandatory, the casino has all over data. And if you start to lose more, you should move yourself in self block list (i don't know if this feature exists in casino sites) and you are not allowed to play further until you unblock yourself.

Anyways keep in mind again this is the gambler's decision and even without including yourself in the self block list, the gambler can control himself and refrain from gambling if he is willing to stop. However, most gamblers fail to have control over their emotions.

What do you mean by self-block list? But I agree with what you said that as long as the gambler can control himself while playing gambling, there is still a big chance that he will change or stop his inclination to play gambling, this is true.

Because once a gambler can no longer control himself, it only shows that there is already a sign of gambling addiction and this is a problem for such a gambler. Because controlling emotions is definitely not going well because of addictions.

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i'm saying thats one of the draw backs to crypto casino sites. people with gambling addictions have fewer tools to prevent them from gambling. say i live in NV, and I add my self to a block list. i can't make a deposit at any state licensed casino website. if i make an account, once i add my bank or cc to make a deposit i will be blocked. yet, if i goto roobet i can make a btc deposit and be playing.. and there is no way to associate a btc address to a person- i mean, you can, but they will just use a different one.

The question is, if a person is too much addicted to gambling, even if they add themselves in a block list and platforms don't allow them to gamble, does that stop them from gambling? I don't think so, they will still find a way to gamble no matter what, they might go and look for street gambling, they will visit a land-based casino, they will find some way to gamble because the urge to gamble won't let them stay in peace.

So it is basically all dependent on one's own self if they want to stop gambling or not and if someone's addiction is already out of control, it becomes pretty difficult to get it over with as there will always be some way for them to fulfill their urge to gamble.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on May 11, 2023, 11:17:01 PM

This is just the basics, but anyone should be aware of it:

Budget: set it BEFORE you start gambling and stick to it.
Have a break from time to time, it is important to let your brain stop and consider.
Avoid drugs / drink as much as possible, they will make you loose some control innevitably.
Seek help if you feel you are no longer in control. Make a phone call to a friend or go out and speak with someone.

Anything else anyone can think of? Like... read this post before gambling? Tongue

What about stopping gambling and betting? Can you direct your energy in a positive and creative direction, and not in a senseless waste of time chasing a win? Gamblers don't admit it, but the main goal is still getting a win, and not a process. If you want money, then start working and earn money, and not lose your last money in slots. That is if you've already gone a bit far in gaming and betting.

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South Park is right, if you can't rely on yourself to beat your gambling addiction there will never be a solution for you, don't go around looking for a solution when you are the only one that can get your problem fixed, I don't drink and I don't do smoking, and I keep wondering how people get addicted to such things because they are not something that sweater the tongue, the first time I tried them out I was like what the hell? 😄 but yeah this is gambling which is different, money making easily get anybody addicted, either the right way or the illegal ways.

I do know someone very close who was addicted to gambling, he lost his life by suicide and the letter he wrote is so sad, he so much believed in gambling as the only way to get is life together and gambling took everything from him, gambling addiction is something that affects the way gamblers think, do not get in such corner.

You don't have to plan a life changing solution with gambling, it's not good for your health and for your future, there is assurance that you will lose, that's why it's called gambling, I think people should try to understand what gambling is before they start thinking that they can get rich through gambling, I have never had such thought in my head and I will never do that to myself.

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Seek help if you feel you are no longer in control. Make a phone call to a friend or go out and speak with someone.

Most people can't do this because they feel disgrace to seek help for their gambling addiction. Each person has different character and behavior too, if he's an introvert person who think he can do anything without any single friend, he will not call his friend since he will think calling a friend just make the problem more complicated.

I think even someone want to gamble all of their money, it's fine as long as they not sell their assets or anything that will used for gamble.

It is always very difficult for someone who is already making huge loss in gambling make a phone call especially to family members and it will be even most worst for an introvert.
I don't think its a nice idea to gamble away all of ones money because there is no way a gambling addict will gamble away all of their money and not be tempted to sell their property or begin tempering with their assets.
My advice is that the moment you notice someone who is gambling excessively especially without any track records of profits then we should make it a duty to help them battle such addiction before it gets out of hand.

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Quote from: dewez on June 01, 2023, 08:39:40 PM

This is just the basics, but anyone should be aware of it:

Budget: set it BEFORE you start gambling and stick to it.
Have a break from time to time, it is important to let your brain stop and consider.
Avoid drugs / drink as much as possible, they will make you loose some control innevitably.
Seek help if you feel you are no longer in control. Make a phone call to a friend or go out and speak with someone.

Anything else anyone can think of? Like... read this post before gambling? Tongue

Not many people unfortunately knows the real and actual danger of gambling too much, in some cases its can be considered as a drug or worse that’s why it’s not advised for people that get easily addicted to drugs or alcohol since there is a higher chance for them to get addicted.

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Avoid drugs / drink as much as possible

Drugs and alcohol is number one for gambling addiction because it add more excitement and good feeling on that adrenaline rush ( my own experience)

One more thing to consider is activities, it’s so important to have other activities or hobbies to do at home or outside and replace that empty time you spend in gambling by your hobbies such as working out, practicing sport, trips or games with friends.

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i'm saying thats one of the draw backs to crypto casino sites. people with gambling addictions have fewer tools to prevent them from gambling. say i live in NV, and I add my self to a block list. i can't make a deposit at any state licensed casino website. if i make an account, once i add my bank or cc to make a deposit i will be blocked. yet, if i goto roobet i can make a btc deposit and be playing.. and there is no way to associate a btc address to a person- i mean, you can, but they will just use a different one.

Which show us those measures were never going to work to begin with, after all someone that is going through an addiction will do everything they have to do in order to satisfy their cravings, and with the huge amount of fiat and cryptocurrency casinos online it is unrealistic to think that every single one of them can block them in the case they want to self-exclude, so it seems people will have to rely on their own strength of character if they want to overcome their addiction to gambling.

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