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Quote from: dewez on June 01, 2023, 07:39:40 PM

i'm saying thats one of the draw backs to crypto casino sites. people with gambling addictions have fewer tools to prevent them from gambling. say i live in NV, and I add my self to a block list. i can't make a deposit at any state licensed casino website. if i make an account, once i add my bank or cc to make a deposit i will be blocked. yet, if i goto roobet i can make a btc deposit and be playing.. and there is no way to associate a btc address to a person- i mean, you can, but they will just use a different one.

The question is, if a person is too much addicted to gambling, even if they add themselves in a block list and platforms don't allow them to gamble, does that stop them from gambling? I don't think so, they will still find a way to gamble no matter what, they might go and look for street gambling, they will visit a land-based casino, they will find some way to gamble because the urge to gamble won't let them stay in peace.

So it is basically all dependent on one's own self if they want to stop gambling or not and if someone's addiction is already out of control, it becomes pretty difficult to get it over with as there will always be some way for them to fulfill their urge to gamble.

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Quote from: paxmao on May 11, 2023, 06:03:57 PM

This is just the basics, but anyone should be aware of it:

Budget: set it BEFORE you start gambling and stick to it.
Have a break from time to time, it is important to let your brain stop and consider.
Avoid drugs / drink as much as possible, they will make you loose some control innevitably.
Seek help if you feel you are no longer in control. Make a phone call to a friend or go out and speak with someone.

Anything else anyone can think of? Like... read this post before gambling? Tongue

What about stopping gambling and betting? Can you direct your energy in a positive and creative direction, and not in a senseless waste of time chasing a win? Gamblers don't admit it, but the main goal is still getting a win, and not a process. If you want money, then start working and earn money, and not lose your last money in slots. That is if you've already gone a bit far in gaming and betting.

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South Park is right, if you can't rely on yourself to beat your gambling addiction there will never be a solution for you, don't go around looking for a solution when you are the only one that can get your problem fixed, I don't drink and I don't do smoking, and I keep wondering how people get addicted to such things because they are not something that sweater the tongue, the first time I tried them out I was like what the hell? 😄 but yeah this is gambling which is different, money making easily get anybody addicted, either the right way or the illegal ways.

I do know someone very close who was addicted to gambling, he lost his life by suicide and the letter he wrote is so sad, he so much believed in gambling as the only way to get is life together and gambling took everything from him, gambling addiction is something that affects the way gamblers think, do not get in such corner.

You don't have to plan a life changing solution with gambling, it's not good for your health and for your future, there is assurance that you will lose, that's why it's called gambling, I think people should try to understand what gambling is before they start thinking that they can get rich through gambling, I have never had such thought in my head and I will never do that to myself.

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Quote from: paxmao on May 11, 2023, 06:03:57 PM

Seek help if you feel you are no longer in control. Make a phone call to a friend or go out and speak with someone.

Most people can't do this because they feel disgrace to seek help for their gambling addiction. Each person has different character and behavior too, if he's an introvert person who think he can do anything without any single friend, he will not call his friend since he will think calling a friend just make the problem more complicated.

I think even someone want to gamble all of their money, it's fine as long as they not sell their assets or anything that will used for gamble.

It is always very difficult for someone who is already making huge loss in gambling make a phone call especially to family members and it will be even most worst for an introvert.
I don't think its a nice idea to gamble away all of ones money because there is no way a gambling addict will gamble away all of their money and not be tempted to sell their property or begin tempering with their assets.
My advice is that the moment you notice someone who is gambling excessively especially without any track records of profits then we should make it a duty to help them battle such addiction before it gets out of hand.

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Quote from: paxmao on May 11, 2023, 06:03:57 PM

This is just the basics, but anyone should be aware of it:

Budget: set it BEFORE you start gambling and stick to it.
Have a break from time to time, it is important to let your brain stop and consider.
Avoid drugs / drink as much as possible, they will make you loose some control innevitably.
Seek help if you feel you are no longer in control. Make a phone call to a friend or go out and speak with someone.

Anything else anyone can think of? Like... read this post before gambling? Tongue

Not many people unfortunately knows the real and actual danger of gambling too much, in some cases its can be considered as a drug or worse that’s why it’s not advised for people that get easily addicted to drugs or alcohol since there is a higher chance for them to get addicted.

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Avoid drugs / drink as much as possible

Drugs and alcohol is number one for gambling addiction because it add more excitement and good feeling on that adrenaline rush ( my own experience)

One more thing to consider is activities, it’s so important to have other activities or hobbies to do at home or outside and replace that empty time you spend in gambling by your hobbies such as working out, practicing sport, trips or games with friends.

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Quote from: dewez on June 01, 2023, 07:39:40 PM

i'm saying thats one of the draw backs to crypto casino sites. people with gambling addictions have fewer tools to prevent them from gambling. say i live in NV, and I add my self to a block list. i can't make a deposit at any state licensed casino website. if i make an account, once i add my bank or cc to make a deposit i will be blocked. yet, if i goto roobet i can make a btc deposit and be playing.. and there is no way to associate a btc address to a person- i mean, you can, but they will just use a different one.

Which show us those measures were never going to work to begin with, after all someone that is going through an addiction will do everything they have to do in order to satisfy their cravings, and with the huge amount of fiat and cryptocurrency casinos online it is unrealistic to think that every single one of them can block them in the case they want to self-exclude, so it seems people will have to rely on their own strength of character if they want to overcome their addiction to gambling.

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Quote from: paxmao on May 11, 2023, 06:03:57 PM

Budget: set it BEFORE you start gambling and stick to it.

The Budget which should not effect on your emotions means set that budget which you lose, and this will not effect on you depression level.
And not become an addict of gambling which harmful for your health or for your mental level and be aware when your are gambling and control yourself when you are loosing the bets.

This must be a small amount but not totally because there is no thrill on it anymore. Sometimes when we already done this practice, we can't feel to be uncontended so we are going to deposit again. This is why I am practicing to separate my entire funds from my online wallets so that I won't be forced to re-deposit again.

Being an addict in gambling is surely damaging our mental health which can also affect us physically because we can hardly eat and sleep when we are addicted on one thing. Worse can happen is we can threaten other people only to get more money which can support our bad habits. Gambling is very manipulative so one should be fully prepared before they engage on it.

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Quote from: dewez on June 01, 2023, 07:39:40 PM

i'm saying thats one of the draw backs to crypto casino sites. people with gambling addictions have fewer tools to prevent them from gambling. say i live in NV, and I add my self to a block list. i can't make a deposit at any state licensed casino website. if i make an account, once i add my bank or cc to make a deposit i will be blocked. yet, if i goto roobet i can make a btc deposit and be playing.. and there is no way to associate a btc address to a person- i mean, you can, but they will just use a different one.

It's same like you're using a different banks or different digital money wallet, you can still playing even though the casino know your real name. Not all online fiat casino is licensed, there's always an illegal casino and you can gamble without any kind restriction.

It's not about online fiat casino or crypto casino, maybe CBDC casino in the future, but it's all depends on your self control.

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Quote from: abel1337 on June 01, 2023, 11:37:45 AM

One thing is there are people who don't really realized that they are addicted into gambling until someone noticed it. There are people who thinks that they are just casually doing gambling but in reality it affects their life so much that they haven't really consider gambling as a problem. Hurting them or making them lower their pride is another factor, I believe that the advice you can give to an addicted gambler is depending on what characteristic he has. There are people who likes direct advices but there are people who can easily get hurt when they are receiving hard lessons. So yeah there are a lot of factors in giving advice and not hurting someone close to you.

Starting from the fad of gambling that will eventually make them addicted to gambling and after playing gambling for a long time, they become addicted to gambling. And it is true that people will not realize that they are already experiencing gambling addiction because they feel that nothing has changed about them even though something has changed them, namely gambling. That is why many people who are addicted to gambling do not want to listen to advice from other people where people who are addicted to gambling feel that they have not changed and are still gambling. Maybe if we find out that he has a gambling addiction, we can slowly approach him and try to get him to open up about his gambling problem so he can start telling us more about his gambling activities.

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i'm saying thats one of the draw backs to crypto casino sites. people with gambling addictions have fewer tools to prevent them from gambling. say i live in NV, and I add my self to a block list. i can't make a deposit at any state licensed casino website. if i make an account, once i add my bank or cc to make a deposit i will be blocked. yet, if i goto roobet i can make a btc deposit and be playing.. and there is no way to associate a btc address to a person- i mean, you can, but they will just use a different one.

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Quote from: dewez on June 01, 2023, 03:42:17 PM

i guess what i mean is, with these smaller crypto casinos, you can deposit and play before filling out any information. with a brick casino's site you can't deposit without adding your bank info or cc... so if you're on the self block list you are stopped before you can relapse.

As I understand this, you mean to say that on a reputed big casino where KYC is mandatory, the casino has all over data. And if you start to lose more, you should move yourself in self block list (i don't know if this feature exists in casino sites) and you are not allowed to play further until you unblock yourself.

Anyways keep in mind again this is the gambler's decision and even without including yourself in the self block list, the gambler can control himself and refrain from gambling if he is willing to stop. However, most gamblers fail to have control over their emotions.

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Quote from: klidex on June 01, 2023, 03:34:26 PM

Quote from: dewez on June 01, 2023, 02:48:36 PM

one of the things that bothers me about gambling with crypto is the lack of identity verification. the self ban list that brick casinos, and their sites, have can really help someone with a gambling problem. they can add their name to the list, and they are barred from entering that casino, certainly from cashing anything out.

What do you mean ? a little difficult to understand but if I see that self-exclusion in the casino exists and you just need to ask the customer support team directly.
regarding KYC you are free to choose to bet on reputable sites but require KYC and if you are reluctant to fill in your personal data you can choose web3 casino.

We know that web3 casino nowadays isnt really that rampant. Dont know if there's already actually one that is existing but despite on being centralized or being licensed we do still have some platforms which doesnt
really ask out some outright KYC or verification which is something that still considerable to deal off with. Everything should really be just fine if you are really just setting out those boundaries or limits on which it would really be that understandable that everything should really be having that limitation and having that real approach on how gambling should be treated up. This isnt something that could give out constant profits
and if you are really that aiming for making money then this isnt the right space for you to focus on. Dont make yourself that get desperate just because you do really aim for more money
and this would kicked in or the sole reason on why you would really be making those desperate moves or measures about it.

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Quote from: paxmao on May 18, 2023, 05:51:33 PM

Intentions play an important role, but we are humans and we need stuff to makes us think twice when these intentions are being obfuscated by our own "humanity". Recognizing and acknowledging these tendencies is an essential step in practicing responsible gambling and it is in our hands to use the best resources and share them with others here.

Yes, sometimes those things that we see and that humanity allows us to intervene in the gambling processes sometimes make us lose and win, sometimes I would like to have the coldness of what robots and things have that have no feelings or emotions , but when we mix those things or those emotions, Sometimes they make us lose, I think they make us lose more than win , that's why when these things are mixed in casinos and trading , they usually have very bad results , it's Something normal but that very Rarely makes us win , that happens to me a lot.

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i guess what i mean is, with these smaller crypto casinos, you can deposit and play before filling out any information. with a brick casino's site you can't deposit without adding your bank info or cc... so if you're on the self block list you are stopped before you can relapse.

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Quote from: dewez on June 01, 2023, 02:48:36 PM

one of the things that bothers me about gambling with crypto is the lack of identity verification. the self ban list that brick casinos, and their sites, have can really help someone with a gambling problem. they can add their name to the list, and they are barred from entering that casino, certainly from cashing anything out.

What do you mean ? a little difficult to understand but if I see that self-exclusion in the casino exists and you just need to ask the customer support team directly.
regarding KYC you are free to choose to bet on reputable sites but require KYC and if you are reluctant to fill in your personal data you can choose web3 casino.

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one of the things that bothers me about gambling with crypto is the lack of identity verification. the self ban list that brick casinos, and their sites, have can really help someone with a gambling problem. they can add their name to the list, and they are barred from entering that casino, certainly from cashing anything out.

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Quote from: Sanitough on June 01, 2023, 08:26:17 AM

Quote from: Beparanf on June 01, 2023, 03:32:29 AM

Don’t give advice if he is not asking for it also we are not a professional that can deal with this kind of psychological problem.

This is correct; we don't want to hurt people's egos by giving unsolicited advice. They already know that they are getting addicted to gambling. As a sign of respect, let them learn from their mistakes. Eventually, as they continue to lose and understand the damage they have done to their finances, they might seek help from people who also understand them. It's always right to wait and not judge them right away.

The bad thing about advice is that when it is given without being asked, those who follow it can go wrong because they already have a way of playing, and those who need it don't, that depends on the style of player they are, if they are a player who does nothing to improve but spend money like crazy, will never take advice, then what is explained or tried to advise is lost, there will always be a way to lose, so sometimes it is better not to get into trouble, because I have seen that In cases where friendship is even lost by trying to get into someone else's game just by giving advice , this is delicate.

The ego in the game is quite strong in people , it is as if they took another Attitude and if you have a lot of money I think that is what comes up the most when Trying to decipher the personality of each person in front of a Casino game.

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Quote from: wiss19 on June 01, 2023, 03:22:30 AM

Such cases are really difficult to manage, people who don't acknowledge themselves that they have an issue will never listen to anyone advising them or telling them that they need help because as you said, they will get angry and start arguing or fighting with you, these are very severe cases and it's very difficult, in fact, impossible to talk them out of that situation.

There needs to be some kind of therapy and hypnosis sessions for these kinds of people because they surely need help but they don't realize it themselves nor do they let others help them, they just stick to what they like to do which is basically dangerous for them.

You know one thing about humans: they must really be convinced within themselves that what they are doing is not the right approach to doing things before you can be able to convince them of the bad effects of what they are doing; otherwise, you can't convince them unless they are first self-convinced and then need your help and advice on how to stop that habit.

They can even fight you, yeah, because they don't see anything wrong with what they do. But in a normal sense, human beings are not just supposed to allow things they do to take control of them instead of them controlling thing they do. There is one teaching in Christian religion that says, "If you allow something to control you, you have therefore made that thing an idle for yourself, and therefore you are a servant to the idle you created for yourself." So some gamblers don't even have control over how they gamble off money that should do better things for them. Gambling is now their idle and they are servants.

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Quote from: Doan9269 on May 30, 2023, 06:31:28 AM

Quote from: Alisha-k on May 30, 2023, 02:31:47 AM

You call him a bet addict because he has money to play bets all the time, some of us who can’t even afford to feed, how do we go about raising funds to bet? Talk of turning to addicts

Deny yourself on anything that you know may gives you more access to gambling opportunities by maintaining a principled lifestyle, though to me it's not the best because gambling is not meant to be restricted on somebody, everyone should have thesame equal rights to play and enjoy gambling games, it is now our own responsibility and duty to target ourselves and apply the necessary control measures when we see that things about gambling were ot going as it were meant to be agains, if discovered early, it could be prevented.

Not everyone actually has the willpower to stop or restrict themselves from this act even if they know or feel their gambling habit are getting out of hand, some people just choose to live in denial of their addiction problem and tell themselves that they are not gambling addicts. If only gambling is actually seen as a fun fair activity where we just go and pass time and not a business place where you intend to get so much winning then I think everyone will be safe from getting their habit from reaching that stage of an addiction problem.

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Quote from: maydna on June 01, 2023, 11:25:19 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on June 01, 2023, 08:26:17 AM

Quote from: Beparanf on June 01, 2023, 03:32:29 AM

Don’t give advice if he is not asking for it also we are not a professional that can deal with this kind of psychological problem.

This is correct; we don't want to hurt people's egos by giving unsolicited advice. They already know that they are getting addicted to gambling. As a sign of respect, let them learn from their mistakes. Eventually, as they continue to lose and understand the damage they have done to their finances, they might seek help from people who also understand them. It's always right to wait and not judge them right away.

Unless they ask us for advice and at the same time ask for our help to cure their gambling addiction, then we will help them. But this is very rare for people who are addicted to gambling because they will hide it from others. Maybe if we see them losing head-on, we can give advice, but we give it jokingly so they don't take it personally and accept our advice. Maybe the best thing is to accompany them when they play so that we can ask them to stop if the situation doesn't allow them to play gambling anymore.

One thing is there are people who don't really realized that they are addicted into gambling until someone noticed it. There are people who thinks that they are just casually doing gambling but in reality it affects their life so much that they haven't really consider gambling as a problem. Hurting them or making them lower their pride is another factor, I believe that the advice you can give to an addicted gambler is depending on what characteristic he has. There are people who likes direct advices but there are people who can easily get hurt when they are receiving hard lessons. So yeah there are a lot of factors in giving advice and not hurting someone close to you.

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