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Asisat Oshoala officially becomes the first African Woman to be nominated for the Ballon d'or... She worked for this I'm positive about stuff's like this. Ends well or not, she has been consistent and it's a good foundation for other African's to learn from.
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Quote from: Davidvictorson on August 12, 2022, 05:55:16 PM

I think Mane is massively underrated as compared to salah. For me his talent is not recognized enough because of his humility and low key personality. I agree that Mo Salah and Sadio Mane are in the same league with the legends of African football. I wouldn't forget to add Kanu Nwankwo and Jay Jay Okocha to the list of legends as well.

Isn't Messi also humble and yet gets more accolades than Ronaldo who is full of himself. Both Mo Salah and Mane are very humble just that Mo Salah is more clinical in the premier league than Mane, that's why he get all the praise. As for your legend addition, I agree with you for others but that of Jay Jay okocha I don't agree. Okocha wasted his talent in football. In the premier league he doesn't have the stats to stand among the best that have played the game.

Okacha has no trophy or outstanding goal contributions to back him. Even when it comes to AFCON, Okacha just have the popularity because of the way he played but doesn't have much achievement compared to other legends. Kanu is a better footballer than Okacha was but that's a debate for another day.

Ronaldo did work for all he has achieved so far, nothing came easy for him, so when you see such you does deserves double of the accolades, as I'm ready to tell my third generation about this lad. Winning mentality of that player should not be compared to another.
He should be amongst the top five all time best players in history of football. Mane is the African Giant is now clearly seen no shades.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on August 12, 2022, 05:55:16 PM

I think Mane is massively underrated as compared to salah. For me his talent is not recognized enough because of his humility and low key personality. I agree that Mo Salah and Sadio Mane are in the same league with the legends of African football. I wouldn't forget to add Kanu Nwankwo and Jay Jay Okocha to the list of legends as well.

Isn't Messi also humble and yet gets more accolades than Ronaldo who is full of himself. Both Mo Salah and Mane are very humble just that Mo Salah is more clinical in the premier league than Mane, that's why he get all the praise. As for your legend addition, I agree with you for others but that of Jay Jay okocha I don't agree. Okocha wasted his talent in football. In the premier league he doesn't have the stats to stand among the best that have played the game.

Okacha has no trophy or outstanding goal contributions to back him. Even when it comes to AFCON, Okacha just have the popularity because of the way he played but doesn't have much achievement compared to other legends. Kanu is a better footballer than Okacha was but that's a debate for another day.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on August 12, 2022, 04:48:15 PM

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Mane and Salah seemed to me to be the best 2 African players of the EPL until this season. Now, however, Mane has left so there is no longer any doubt. I think Mane is underestimated by many people. He has often played for Salah. If Liverpool hadn't had mane in all those years, Salah would have been much less noticed and much less successful I suspect. There are still more African players around in the EPL, but none can practically compare to Salah and or Mane until this season. But last season it was just a little less with Salah. In the end, he is still too erratic.

Mo Salah and Sadio Mane are a big boost to the pride of African teams. They have joined the ranks of Didier Drogba, Samuel Eto and will soon pass the baton to the next set of stars. Ndidi and kelechi iheanacho are becoming stars in the English premier league, I believe the quality and top performance of these players will open doors for young upcoming African footballers.

Mohammed Salah and Sadio Mane are big name are think they are the most relevant players Africa have ever had, this two players as time goes on they will still make more name in football.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on August 12, 2022, 04:48:15 PM

Mo Salah and Sadio Mane are a big boost to the pride of African teams. They have joined the ranks of Didier Drogba, Samuel Eto and will soon pass the baton to the next set of stars. Ndidi and kelechi iheanacho are becoming stars in the English premier league, I believe the quality and top performance of these players will open doors for young upcoming African footballers.

I think Mane is massively underrated as compared to salah. For me his talent is not recognized enough because of his humility and low key personality. I agree that Mo Salah and Sadio Mane are in the same league with the legends of African football. I wouldn't forget to add Kanu Nwankwo and Jay Jay Okocha to the list of legends as well.

In other news, the Nigerian falconets defeated France in FIFA U-20 Women's World Cup 1-0. The lone goal was scored by Flourish Sabastine. The French side had a goal overturned by VAR. Above, it was a great start for the team. I noticed the Nigerian goalkeeper had some issues with catching the ball as it most times slipped off. For now, I would blame it on the weather. I'll comment on this observation after their next game.

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Mane and Salah seemed to me to be the best 2 African players of the EPL until this season. Now, however, Mane has left so there is no longer any doubt. I think Mane is underestimated by many people. He has often played for Salah. If Liverpool hadn't had mane in all those years, Salah would have been much less noticed and much less successful I suspect. There are still more African players around in the EPL, but none can practically compare to Salah and or Mane until this season. But last season it was just a little less with Salah. In the end, he is still too erratic.

Mo Salah and Sadio Mane are a big boost to the pride of African teams. They have joined the ranks of Didier Drogba, Samuel Eto and will soon pass the baton to the next set of stars. Ndidi and kelechi iheanacho are becoming stars in the English premier league, I believe the quality and top performance of these players will open doors for young upcoming African footballers.

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Mane and Salah seemed to me to be the best 2 African players of the EPL until this season. Now, however, Mane has left so there is no longer any doubt. I think Mane is underestimated by many people. He has often played for Salah. If Liverpool hadn't had mane in all those years, Salah would have been much less noticed and much less successful I suspect. There are still more African players around in the EPL, but none can practically compare to Salah and or Mane until this season. But last season it was just a little less with Salah. In the end, he is still too erratic.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on August 10, 2022, 01:22:48 PM

Quote from: DanWalker on August 06, 2022, 05:01:19 PM

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I would have simply gone for Didier Drogba, Mohamed Salah, and Sadio Mané. But this means that I would be unfair to some uncommon midfielders and defenders because I might be basing my selection based on goal scoring and not general contributions to the team. Although not given the right respect and recommendation, Yaya Toure was the pillar and engine room of Manchester City. He was one of the greatest midfielder Africa has ever produced. Although, Sadio Mané is a Liverpool legend but I would give my third slot to the Ivorian maestro Yaya Toure. The slots of Drogba and Salah is incontestable because they are demi-gods of the EPL. I would have considered the only African player that have won the ballon d'or; George Weah, but his impact in the EPL was not fundamental.

If we are talking about having an impact on club football, I have to side with Mohamed Salah. I know a lot of people are likely to disagree with me and I actually understand the logic that they are apt to present. But personally, I believe he is one of the most talented finishers in football right now. He just happens to be at the right time at the right place. This was evident even in the recent match against Liverpool. I am quite sure that Darwin Nunez would not have been able to score the second goal if Mohamed Salah did not shoot the ball into the net. And in recent times when football is almost all about pace, it is encouraging to see some genuine scale and instinct from a player.

Sadio Mane didn't get the regards he deserves at Liverpool I expected more from Klopp but he seems to let go of the better player amongst them both. Sadio Mane was much impactful than Salah. When football was all about contribution and team contribution and goals. Salah's name wouldn't have been mentioned anywhere.

He just relies on the good quality players he has, although I won't deny the fact that that he is a top finisher for Liverpool how far has he gone with the national team ? Ronaldo did when he had no big name around. (Off topic ) for me once more, I think Sadio Mane deserves to be on of my all time greats. No Shades.

A very good player like Mane will be missed so much in the Premier league indeed, his departure came as a shock to me cause I never saw Liverpool losing such a player so soon because his partnership with Salah was phenomenal and very productive, too bad they had to let him go but sincerely I was expecting to see a combination of Mane, Salah and Nunez this season too bad I won't have to see all that. Fulham definitely wouldn't stand a chance against this trio.

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Quote from: DanWalker on August 06, 2022, 05:01:19 PM

Quote from: Zlantann on August 06, 2022, 11:23:00 AM

I would have simply gone for Didier Drogba, Mohamed Salah, and Sadio Mané. But this means that I would be unfair to some uncommon midfielders and defenders because I might be basing my selection based on goal scoring and not general contributions to the team. Although not given the right respect and recommendation, Yaya Toure was the pillar and engine room of Manchester City. He was one of the greatest midfielder Africa has ever produced. Although, Sadio Mané is a Liverpool legend but I would give my third slot to the Ivorian maestro Yaya Toure. The slots of Drogba and Salah is incontestable because they are demi-gods of the EPL. I would have considered the only African player that have won the ballon d'or; George Weah, but his impact in the EPL was not fundamental.

If we are talking about having an impact on club football, I have to side with Mohamed Salah. I know a lot of people are likely to disagree with me and I actually understand the logic that they are apt to present. But personally, I believe he is one of the most talented finishers in football right now. He just happens to be at the right time at the right place. This was evident even in the recent match against Liverpool. I am quite sure that Darwin Nunez would not have been able to score the second goal if Mohamed Salah did not shoot the ball into the net. And in recent times when football is almost all about pace, it is encouraging to see some genuine scale and instinct from a player.

Sadio Mane didn't get the regards he deserves at Liverpool I expected more from Klopp but he seems to let go of the better player amongst them both. Sadio Mane was much impactful than Salah. When football was all about contribution and team contribution and goals. Salah's name wouldn't have been mentioned anywhere.

He just relies on the good quality players he has, although I won't deny the fact that that he is a top finisher for Liverpool how far has he gone with the national team ? Ronaldo did when he had no big name around. (Off topic ) for me once more, I think Sadio Mane deserves to be on of my all time greats. No Shades.

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Quote from: Zlantann on August 06, 2022, 11:23:00 AM

I would have simply gone for Didier Drogba, Mohamed Salah, and Sadio Mané. But this means that I would be unfair to some uncommon midfielders and defenders because I might be basing my selection based on goal scoring and not general contributions to the team. Although not given the right respect and recommendation, Yaya Toure was the pillar and engine room of Manchester City. He was one of the greatest midfielder Africa has ever produced. Although, Sadio Mané is a Liverpool legend but I would give my third slot to the Ivorian maestro Yaya Toure. The slots of Drogba and Salah is incontestable because they are demi-gods of the EPL. I would have considered the only African player that have won the ballon d'or; George Weah, but his impact in the EPL was not fundamental.

If we are talking about having an impact on club football, I have to side with Mohamed Salah. I know a lot of people are likely to disagree with me and I actually understand the logic that they are apt to present. But personally, I believe he is one of the most talented finishers in football right now. He just happens to be at the right time at the right place. This was evident even in the recent match against Liverpool. I am quite sure that Darwin Nunez would not have been able to score the second goal if Mohamed Salah did not shoot the ball into the net. And in recent times when football is almost all about pace, it is encouraging to see some genuine scale and instinct from a player.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on August 06, 2022, 12:33:57 PM

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Leaving What Mane has won also let's not forget a female also got to win an award.
The Barcelona attacker won the CAF Player of the year Oshoala of Nigeria.
She has been outstanding no cap, she gives it her best every year.

In some way, I think that these awards are significant for Africa, and I like that these players are recognized, because this makes the little ones, the children, see that example in the players and athletes and want to imitate them, I know that it is an issue that It is not very controversial, but we must see these things from the most positive point of view, awards and recognition should always be flattered in the best way, I also see that the female soccer player also gets good recognition and that is something very worthy, and I hope they continue to get more, but I think that despite all this, the best future of the players will always be in Europe.

The African continent is in need of some role models and hero figures so that the next generation is encouraged to be motivated and passionate about playing football. I have to say very few players are like that in the African region. And yes I agree that the long-term future of any player is most likely to be in Europe but if no one actually does anything about improving football in Africa, the improvement and recognition are not going to be rapid. By the looks of things, it is going to take a lot of time for Africa to actually get recognized as one of the premier football-playing regions.

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Quote from: D-law on July 22, 2022, 04:05:53 PM

Leaving What Mane has won also let's not forget a female also got to win an award.
The Barcelona attacker won the CAF Player of the year Oshoala of Nigeria.
She has been outstanding no cap, she gives it her best every year.

In some way, I think that these awards are significant for Africa, and I like that these players are recognized, because this makes the little ones, the children, see that example in the players and athletes and want to imitate them, I know that it is an issue that It is not very controversial, but we must see these things from the most positive point of view, awards and recognition should always be flattered in the best way, I also see that the female soccer player also gets good recognition and that is something very worthy, and I hope they continue to get more, but I think that despite all this, the best future of the players will always be in Europe.

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I would have simply gone for Didier Drogba, Mohamed Salah, and Sadio Mané. But this means that I would be unfair to some uncommon midfielders and defenders because I might be basing my selection based on goal scoring and not general contributions to the team. Although not given the right respect and recommendation, Yaya Toure was the pillar and engine room of Manchester City. He was one of the greatest midfielder Africa has ever produced. Although, Sadio Mané is a Liverpool legend but I would give my third slot to the Ivorian maestro Yaya Toure. The slots of Drogba and Salah is incontestable because they are demi-gods of the EPL. I would have considered the only African player that have won the ballon d'or; George Weah, but his impact in the EPL was not fundamental.

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Who is your Best Premier league player of all time, also who will be included in your top 3 spots?

Lets have some fun discussion, the premier league officially is back as the first match of the 2022/2023 season will be played today. In celebration of this return, can we have some construction discussion on who were your best African players to have played in the premier league and just to make it easier you could also give us your top 3 pick as for some individual chosing just one will be very difficult. Don't forget to vote via the poll up there or give your suggestions on who you think should be on the poll.

I'll go first, Didier Drogba for me is the greatest African player that even play in the premier league. It doesn't matter if all his records get broken but he still remains my best African player in the EPL. I grew up watching him play and he also played for my child hood club Chelsea. Drogba scored 157 goals in 341 match but it wasn't all about his goals, he's involvement at key point when Chelsea needed him the most is what make me put him above others.

My top 3 are 1: Didier Drogba 2: Yaya Toure & 3: Mohamed Salah. What's yours?

My Africa best player in the premier league was Sadio Mane, I think he is the best player Africa have ever produced that has gone international. Mane was an important player to his former club Liverpool, even to the recent club he belong too.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on August 05, 2022, 12:37:03 PM

Who is your Best Premier league player of all time, also who will be included in your top 3 spots?

Lets have some fun discussion, the premier league officially is back as the first match of the 2022/2023 season will be played today. In celebration of this return, can we have some construction discussion on who were your best African players to have played in the premier league and just to make it easier you could also give us your top 3 pick as for some individual chosing just one will be very difficult. Don't forget to vote via the poll up there or give your suggestions on who you think should be on the poll.

I'll go first, Didier Drogba for me is the greatest African player that even play in the premier league. It doesn't matter if all his records get broken but he still remains my best African player in the EPL. I grew up watching him play and he also played for my child hood club Chelsea. Drogba scored 157 goals in 341 match but it wasn't all about his goals, he's involvement at key point when Chelsea needed him the most is what make me put him above others.

My top 3 are 1: Didier Drogba 2: Yaya Toure & 3: Mohamed Salah. What's yours?

Top Players out there innit your list Boss, But, Perplexed I ain't seeing Samuel Eto in the Poll for me to cast my Vote. I watched him play at Barcelona and also Inter Milan. He won Africa Best Player couple of times which was well deserving.

Kanu Nwankwo is my next option if I should Vote here, growing up down my ends being called Kanu Nwankwo made me smile gives me that inner energy to keep playing soccer. He won trophies with Arsenal and scored goals and I think during Atalanta 96 ?

Yaya You're comes next up , been a big Man, even if I was Manchester United fan. Loved how he Collab with David Silva , Nasri,and Aguero, at the National team he was giant unstoppable, just unfortunate not to be in a France squad else winning the World Cup would have be dead possible.

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Who is your Best Premier league player of all time, also who will be included in your top 3 spots?

Lets have some fun discussion, the premier league officially is back as the first match of the 2022/2023 season will be played today. In celebration of this return, can we have some construction discussion on who were your best African players to have played in the premier league and just to make it easier you could also give us your top 3 pick as for some individual chosing just one will be very difficult. Don't forget to vote via the poll up there or give your suggestions on who you think should be on the poll.

I'll go first, Didier Drogba for me is the greatest African player that even play in the premier league. It doesn't matter if all his records get broken but he still remains my best African player in the EPL. I grew up watching him play and he also played for my child hood club Chelsea. Drogba scored 157 goals in 341 match but it wasn't all about his goals, he's involvement at key point when Chelsea needed him the most is what make me put him above others.

My top 3 are 1: Didier Drogba 2: Yaya Toure & 3: Mohamed Salah. What's yours?

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Quote from: GiftedMAN on August 02, 2022, 06:18:56 PM

After the Rivers United players won the league I was so surprised to see the news of what the governor of the state gave to them without the media exposing the amount that was given to the entire team by the head sponsors Eunisel Limited.

Don't be surprised, who do you think owns the media house or are big Vc"s that are investing in this media houses. It's still the government as such they're obligated to report stories that make them look good. A good gesture by a private company won't be televised as that coming from a government official, don't forget we're closed to the election period so any publicity they can get now is highly capitalized on.

Also I don't think the sponsorship gifts was as big or would be as big as that coming from the government. This government officials know how to throw money at this players to make themselves look good. Also the gifts by the government was personal gifts as such the players will receive it but that of sponsorship would be general.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on August 02, 2022, 04:09:56 PM

No one is willing to invest in Africa football because it's heavily been controlled by the government and not an independent body. Take a look at other entertainment sectors like Movie industry and that of the music industry. You can see how great we're doing over there and that's because the government don't have a say in how that sector functions but same can't be said in the sport industry especially football. Investors don't trust the government because of their selfish and corrupt method of government.

Lets take the Nigeria professional football league as an example, the league was just won by Rivers United and no private entity could acknowledge the club or probably get into a partnership with them and we have many private companies in state the clubs reside in instead, it was the governor of the state that gifted each players tens of thousand of dollar and you think the government influence on the sport will be reduced when they're the only one funding the clubs in their states.

In fact, I don't mind if the government controls the sports category of their country. That’s as long as they are doing a good job and that people are not corrupted. But it is quite the opposite in Africa. Everyone is looking for money. These government officials are trying to squeeze out as much money as they can for their own purposes.

But if this was controlled by a private organization things could have been a lot more different. And the reason why private organizations or companies are not being able to approach them is because of the government. No one wants to compete with the government in any situation. Because that is obviously not a winnable fight for anyone.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on August 02, 2022, 04:09:56 PM

Lets take the Nigeria professional football league as an example, the league was just won by Rivers United and no private entity could acknowledge the club or probably get into a partnership with them and we have many private companies in state the clubs reside in instead, it was the governor of the state that gifted each players tens of thousand of dollar and you think the government influence on the sport will be reduced when they're the only one funding the clubs in their states.

Most teams in Nigerian professional football that is owned and controlled by the state government have got good sponsors but the influence and full control of the state government has always surpassed the contribution of the companies. For the reigning champions of the Nigerian professional football league Rivers United, Eunisel limited, one of the largest specialties in chemicals, oil, and gas production has been the major sponsor of the current champions Rivers United for over five years now. After the Rivers United players won the league I was so surprised to see the news of what the governor of the state gave to them without the media exposing the amount that was given to the entire team by the head sponsors Eunisel Limited.

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Quote from: fuguebtc on August 01, 2022, 02:34:05 PM

But that is the most difficult part. No one seems to be that interested in African football. It would always be better to have teams owned by private companies or certain persons rather than the government controlling things.

Right now I think African football is getting better and people can actually invest in African football. I think if one person or a company does invest in African football they are sure to find it very beneficial.

No one is willing to invest in Africa football because it's heavily been controlled by the government and not an independent body. Take a look at other entertainment sectors like Movie industry and that of the music industry. You can see how great we're doing over there and that's because the government don't have a say in how that sector functions but same can't be said in the sport industry especially football. Investors don't trust the government because of their selfish and corrupt method of government.

Lets take the Nigeria professional football league as an example, the league was just won by Rivers United and no private entity could acknowledge the club or probably get into a partnership with them and we have many private companies in state the clubs reside in instead, it was the governor of the state that gifted each players tens of thousand of dollar and you think the government influence on the sport will be reduced when they're the only one funding the clubs in their states.

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Quote from: D-law on July 31, 2022, 03:37:31 PM

It's embarrassing from Africa how long should it be talked about.
Why not invest in African football rather than overseas
Those leadership are all bunch of unwanted element's.

Easy one the words and probably make yourself understandable, well I can say the value of African football is backwards compared to our European and American counterparts but let's not forget the big picture with is not to always blame the leaders especially when it comes to national league, using england for example most clubs there are private owned and the government rather than contribute are getting taxes from the clubs, so I think more private individuals should invest in African football.

Let not go too far , forget about the private club. Let just be real and tell ourselves the truth , can our national teams we have in Africa be compared with what we have in the European world .it is different because they have more value for football in all aspects.

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