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Topic: Alpha Technology Litecoin (Scrypt) ASIC Miner Order Batch 1 Now! - page 162. (Read 529096 times)

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Now i got banned without any warning, just as Searing. This was my plan, i counted on this, i have been testing AT if they can deal with critical comments on their forums. They cant.
On the forum I told my story about my deleted question (do distance selling regulations apply?), coz another user of this forum thought that DSR do apply and that he will get full refund, so i told him that my question has been deleted, and that Fiaz worte me a PM with the hint to ask my question via their payments-email-adress (where you have to wait for an answer for a huge amount of days), and i told this user that i didnt write to this payments-email adress coz i dont expect an legal explanation of ATs refusal of DSR. I assume that there doesnt exist anyone respectively that AT only has squishy interpretations of the DSR. (I wrote this too)


AT employees do have a very very very weak character.

Im sure there will be an update till July 31st, but it will be only a "rest assured, the units will come soon"-update to calm down customers so they dont start filling fraud reports, its better when they pay. Dat psyocholgical games dont work here.


>>then you can kiss the slim chance you have of making ROI goodbye

You even dont have a chance to kiss it now. You never wont hit ROI, thats for sure by now. Same to batch #2 (IF they come).


Im thinking of my following strategy to leave dat sinking AT-ship, there are some possibilities:

-> Sell my account on ebay
-> Dont sell it on ebay, start a fraud report at http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/  on 1st August (will work, if a lot of people start to fill the report)
-> Waiting till unit will be delivered, return the unit to AT and demand full refund, which wont happen coz AT said so and fill out a fraud report at http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/ to get full refund (after 3-4 years and some court sessions)
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You wan chili saus?
If anyone in the UK is feeling like they want more answers...

http://www.nmi.org.uk/about-us/members/details/335/silera
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Haha, boy this has turned into quite a circus.
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Clueless!
if they start shipping in 3 days im gonna laugh my ass off

me too...even thou i did not send in the remaining 70% of my order and "probably" will get a chargeback on the other 30% from amex

it would be "well played alhpa ...well played...."

on the other hand I have a Titan coming 1st batch ...so this was ordered before the Titan was even offered....

so yeay they pull it off I'll give them kudo's but if they did something like that I'd fire everyone in PR from forums to News to whatever....that would
still be the worse clust*f*ck and cost them money...a little bit of communication on "jeez we an't sure but we sure are trying' would have made
a difference in my order..INTENT matters.....TRANSPARENCY MATTERS...

So even if they did pull this out at the last minute..it still would be kinda an epic fail in the orders they could have kept

then again with the info we have the odds are me getting a chargeback and not sending in the other 70% is the wise move

don't like guessing and lottery odds on getting a product I've put 30% down already don't ya know (thus the cc option on paypal ..duh!)

er and still can't think of anything I posted the actual 'alpha forums' to get banned....could somebody look around that still  has
access....?

Sure reading my posts here I could see them going back to the alpha forums and me getting banned but there not so much..

could be wrong.....but curious

so it goes....3 days till shipping ...heh

Searing
 
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So according to "The Doctor" (Liroy Van to you and I) Alpha should have CC payments ready for tomorrow or Monday:

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Re: Final payment and due date?


« Reply #24 on: Today at 12:09:00 AM »
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Quote from: DRCR on July 12, 2014, 03:39:32 AM
Still waiting
That's the spirit, thank you for your patience.



For accepting credit card payments; I have been working very hard with Alpha and multiple acquirers to speed up our ability to process credit cards. Some large hurdles have been overcome, and I have finished my technical fun today accordingly.

Ok, "fun" is a lie. The API of the CC processor wasn't working very well initially and didn't understand the enhanced encryption measures through checkout after order.
However, after a bit of bug fixing and triple checks: we're almost done!

I'm happy to note that credit card processing at this point is functioning for VISA, MasterCard and AMEX. Smiley


So why is it not available to you yet?
I have two smalls quirks left to fix: random errors in Google Chrome and a random false-positive on the firewall.
Relatively easy to fix and pretty much not "blocker" bugs, but I rather have everything 100% sorted than launching a system of which I know there are two bugs left that could cause inconvenience to you. Nothing but perfection! Smiley
 
As such:
Best case scenario: tomorrow (Sunday), the CC processing will be available.
Worst case scenario: CC processing will be available late Monday evening.

I will release a more official note and more (technical) details along with the actual launch of the processing ability.


Have fun Smiley


Funnily enough though Fiaz can't give a date on shipping and the much promised update:

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Re: Available options as of July 8th, 2014?

« Reply #15 on: Today at 12:29:19 AM »

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Quote from: CARoss on July 08, 2014, 01:40:00 PM
I've been very patient, and have tried to keep up on most of the forum - but I must admit it is very difficult.  There is a lot of anger and F.U.D. being spread around.  I'd like to get an official answer to my questions below by a company representative:

What is best guess on a ship date for the Viper miner?
What are the options for payment that are available to us?
What options for refund do we have at this stage?
Is there an official method of transferring our existing pre-order to someone else?
1. I can't give you a guess, please just give us some time, there will be an update soon. I know this isn't what you want to hear but it is all I can tell you right now.
2. Bank Transfer, Bitpay, Credit Card soon
3. Depends email payments.
4. No

It seems Alpha are trying desperately to get customers to pay in full BEFORE they release an update. That really doesn't pass the smell test. IF they do manage to get a CC processor in place, you should have two weeks to pay. If you are an Alpha customer I would suggest you do not give them a penny until you see a working prototype. Two weeks from Monday will be 28th July. If they do not have a prototype by then, forget seeing a miner before KNC delivers, then you can kiss the slim chance you have of making ROI goodbye.
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I cant find the mentioned zoomhash miner units on their website?
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Why bother with Alpha Tech anymore.....
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Re: Latest Update

« Reply #131 on: Today at 02:48:57 PM »
I'm so glad I haven't sent in my final payment yet!

Looks like I could buy a 250mh/s unit right now from zoom hash and get it in 5 days for just about the same as my remaining 70% deposit.

Never preorder!!!!  ALpha is no where's near delivery and there are already SHIPPING units for less than you are paying for a Viper. 

Instead of paying your 70% just buy a unit from zoomhash and get it in 5 days!!!

28-30 Mh/s unit (minus required 1200wPS & Raspberry Pi) for $849!
Guess you are right. These unit seem to use quite a bit of power though.
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if they start shipping in 3 days im gonna laugh my ass off

don't be so optimistic, I am afraid that this seems to be a Hollywood type scam...
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if they start shipping in 3 days im gonna laugh my ass off
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Well hello there!
If this is a really scam I am wondering why they dont make any FAKE prototype (just fake pcb + some heatsinks) or maybe FAKE rack chassis - it will be cost max 500pounds even less, and they can scam more people for doing that.

Because it is not a scam per se. It is rather we have tried but it went broken story.

Yes the initiative was there and aspiration was there but the competence was not.  They did not go into this attempting to scam people, but now that they have failed on so many levels (transparency, prototypes, billing, partnerships) they are circling the wagons to protect themselves.  So they will do their best to try to throw together some kind of defence absolving themselves of all guilty and justify keeping the money they have taken from their customers.  So it didn't start as a scam but it became one.
Quite possible but the big question then becomes, at what point where they themselves aware that this entire venture was a failure and why in the hell did they send out e-mails requiring remaining 70% payment of pre-orders?  I strongly suspect they knew this thing was going to fail well before requesting remaining payments from existing order holders.  That IS scam-like behavior imho.
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If this is a really scam I am wondering why they dont make any FAKE prototype (just fake pcb + some heatsinks) or maybe FAKE rack chassis - it will be cost max 500pounds even less, and they can scam more people for doing that.

Because it is not a scam per se. It is rather we have tried but it went broken story.

Yes the initiative was there and aspiration was there but the competence was not.  They did not go into this attempting to scam people, but now that they have failed on so many levels (transparency, prototypes, billing, partnerships) they are circling the wagons to protect themselves.  So they will do their best to try to throw together some kind of defence absolving themselves of all guilty and justify keeping the money they have taken from their customers.  So it didn't start as a scam but it became one.
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If this is a really scam I am wondering why they dont make any FAKE prototype (just fake pcb + some heatsinks) or maybe FAKE rack chassis - it will be cost max 500pounds even less, and they can scam more people for doing that.

Because it is not a scam per se. It is rather we have tried but it went broken story.
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I am looking at unofficial pre-order list and Do I looks right?

1,5mln pounds orders within 10days  Shocked Shocked Shocked

If this is a really scam I am wondering why they dont make any FAKE prototype (just fake pcb + some heatsinks) or maybe FAKE rack chassis - it will be cost max 500pounds even less, and they can scam more people for doing that.


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                                            zero fucks given
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Innosilicon - the only hope for Alpha-T.

Innosilicon 28 nm chips can do 1.6 MHS to 1.8 MHS at only 10W power consumption. They sell these chips OEM. These are the only chips that match more less Alpha's vaporchips specification. Do they know already that it is better deal for them to buy these chips? Is that why they have declared lower power usage and higher hashing power matching more less Innosilicon specs? The problem is that the price is a bit to high for Alpha to make a good deal currently. However if they wait month or two - they will make some easy money.
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Re: Latest Update

« Reply #131 on: Today at 02:48:57 PM »
I'm so glad I haven't sent in my final payment yet!

Looks like I could buy a 250mh/s unit right now from zoom hash and get it in 5 days for just about the same as my remaining 70% deposit.

Never preorder!!!!  ALpha is no where's near delivery and there are already SHIPPING units for less than you are paying for a Viper. 

Instead of paying your 70% just buy a unit from zoomhash and get it in 5 days!!!
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Umm  ….   where did the Alpha-T storefront sign go ?  ...

By the time Google updates the street view you won't see an AT sign there either the way this is going.
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Clueless!
By the by can anyone else get into forums at www.alpha-t.net or have we all been banned....I don't even try to log in and I get the page
(unless they locked out my IP)

Hell maybe everyone is banned and the forums is shut down for all I know?

Searing


Forums working from here, no ban shit.


well I'll  "just find another" .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaQ2v4GBZDk

heh.....(man they really really don't like me if they banned my IP (i have a static ip) heh....

me thinks my rant on here on how people can get chargebacks on their 30% down lit a fire under them to do 'something' even if it was
not in getting an asic scrypt miner out..but by god they took the time to 'ban me" ...so they are alive!

 I have proved they can do something even if it was only to ban me!...ah the sweet
scent of progress....well quite frankly the scent of progress stinks...movement wise...but they did move! *sure to ban me* but motion
is motion...now if they would just continue to tumble down the hill with asic's falling out of their ass...I'd start a cult on unicorns
and rainbows....but hey 3 more days they "on July 15th we will start shipping units" heh

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By the by can anyone else get into forums at www.alpha-t.net or have we all been banned....I don't even try to log in and I get the page
(unless they locked out my IP)

Hell maybe everyone is banned and the forums is shut down for all I know?

Searing


Forums working from here, no ban shit.
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