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Topic: Alpha Technology Litecoin (Scrypt) ASIC Miner Order Batch 1 Now! - page 212. (Read 529054 times)

legendary
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Antifragile
The Gridseed was dead before not on arrival because their policy was clear: for every $6 you give us, $1 goes for development, 1$ for your product and 400% for us to make free hardware with your money.

For Alpha-t i will be seriously willing not to pay the remaining 70% and get a 75% refund of the deposit minus 70£ i will still be better off than with junk 5MHs when everybody else is mining by the 100 MHs

There are many ways Alpha-t can recover, for example open batch one again for more people with a large ticket fee of say 10%, of course no one will take that offer before a singing and dancing prototype is produced.

Wow, KNC putting out a 100Mhs Miner for $10,000 USD?
When did they start having those for pre-order?
That is a game changer.

Dude I told you this would happen back in December. KNC had said they would make a scrypt miner the day they started. Its been in the pipeline for months. But none of the Alpha T crowd wanted to listen.

The post from Alpha T and the hastily copy and pasted news letter stinks of desperation. They have been caught completely with their arses hanging out and are trying anything to stop the flood of refunds.
Its absolutely ridiculous to guarantee shipping in July. What will you offer if you fail? The coin they would have made if they had been mining?

It's pretty easy to make all sorts of promises on an internet forum. You lose nothing if you fail. You go back to being accountants. Your customers lose their money.

I'm amused it took me posting the KNC link on this and the litecointalk thread for you to dream up this "upgrade". You must really have your finger on the pulse over at Alpha tech HQ. You're no doubt running around trying to figure out if you have enough money in the kitty to fund it, if you have to open up batch 2 or just head for the Bahamas.

BTW if you do decide to get a refund don't let them fob you off with 70%. Contact the citizens advice bureau  or trading standards and get a full refund. Their refund policy is totally illegal under the distance selling regulations in the UK.


Well, what KNC did (which was inevitable) has cause me to get 2.5X as much or more hashing power (or so) for the same price! I am so damn stoked about this!
KNC Miner is probably going to deliver 111MHs or something like that for $10,000. About $90 per Mhash. Alpha Tech was at around $250 per Mhas (on the 5Mhs model, assuming 6 was delivered).

Roughly, Alpha probably will have to up the Mhs to 15 or so to make things roughly equal, a bit more than double.
Of course they designed the units for something like this happening. Chips are CHEAP, the problem could be in the design. Doubling the chip quantity
IS NOT the same as doubling everything else. Just put another board in. It reduces Alpha's profits but such is things at the start of a venture.
So, no worries, I'm all smiles. Still not finished with the experiment of course. Alpha Tech via KNCMiner basically gifted those of us who took a chance a nice reward.

Thanks Fiaz for upping the hash. You guys did what you had to do and we thank you for it.
Note - It is primarily non customers writing the complaints, perhaps all. Most of us have stuck through the experiment and history making.  Wink
We appreciate the feedback and such along the way.
If you guys deliver on time you will have done what KNC Miner did AND MORE!
Congrats everyone,
Its about sharing.
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Really sorry but your offer for 30% only was not a good gesture of your part, nobody would have given you 100% so you can't claim that

On the other  hand, KNC can ask for 110% now and refund 10% later and everyone will follow
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Hilarious fucking thread.

On the one hand, we have assholes selling miners they know will be obsolete and slower than the latest GPU's by the time they are released, and on the other we have fuckwits who pre-ordered now chasing their tails hoping to negotiate faster miners into the deal before they ship, or cancelling their orders at a 30% loss before their processed.

Let me grab the popcorn and work my way back through some of these posts. I'm fucking crying, laughing here LOL
my thoughts exactly
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http://hash-master.com/item-type/asic-scrypt-miners
Look at their price for 48 MH/s!!!   I ordered 10 !   So cheap!!!!
 Grin Grin Grin
what a steal!
Package F-120X Scrypy SHA ASIC Dual Miner 42-48MH/S Plug and Play- All Accessories Included -In Stock
$27,850.00
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Clueless!
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Clueless!
Hey folks!

We would like to assure you we are very aware of our competitors hash rates and pricing and intend to match them, we started development in May 2013 and are on schedule to ship in July giving us the clear lead. During development we decided to make our units larger and upgradable so we could accommodate increased hash rates with ease, we gave ourselves this leeway for a variety of reasons. And the announcement of Scrypt miners from competitors was of course one such reason that we anticipated and planned for. A full announcement with details on our new batch 1 hash rates will be released very soon!


Translation: We can't screw everyone quite as badly as we'd planned to, now that competition has emerged and they are screwing everyone a lot less. So instead of making an insane profit, we've been reduced to making a reasonable one after we add additional hardware to our units.

+1
likely
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Clueless!
Well Butterly Labs have upgraded their customers 250%
Instead of a 600GHs Monarch they get 1 THs Imperial Monarch the minute they ship PLUS a free 600 Monarch at the end of the queue


Shipping February 30th 2015

hmmm.." hell" is freezing over as we speak got the following emails today

1) got an email I WILL GET A REFUND FROM BFL (..tap .tap tap...ok now that you have gotten off the floor after falling off youfr chair) in that
my april 2013 never ending not getting produccts and upgrade to a monarch 600gh (forced update) it is more then 6 months will get a refund of my approx 5K on this beast
in 45 days.

2) KNC sent an email saying they are making a 100mh scrypt miner for Q3/Q4 for around 10.2k with shipping i'd guess....but will OFFER
NO REFUNDS ON THE SCRYPT MINERS.. got an email to that effect see knc miner thread

3) then got an email from alpha saying they are going to battle the above evil empire (knc i presume) with increased speed etc on their
scrypt miners...be kinda interesting to see what happens heard KNC is shooting for July/Aiug on their unit.

yep ..any moment not CNN will announce "hell is freezing over'

jeez you can't make this stuff up

Searing
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The Gridseed was dead before not on arrival because their policy was clear: for every $6 you give us, $1 goes for development, 1$ for your product and 400% for us to make free hardware with your money.

For Alpha-t i will be seriously willing not to pay the remaining 70% and get a 75% refund of the deposit minus 70£ i will still be better off than with junk 5MHs when everybody else is mining by the 100 MHs

There are many ways Alpha-t can recover, for example open batch one again for more people with a large ticket fee of say 10%, of course no one will take that offer before a singing and dancing prototype is produced.

Wow, KNC putting out a 100Mhs Miner for $10,000 USD?
When did they start having those for pre-order?
That is a game changer.

Dude I told you this would happen back in December. KNC had said they would make a scrypt miner the day they started. Its been in the pipeline for months. But none of the Alpha T crowd wanted to listen.

The post from Alpha T and the hastily copy and pasted news letter stinks of desperation. They have been caught completely with their arses hanging out and are trying anything to stop the flood of refunds.
Its absolutely ridiculous to guarantee shipping in July. What will you offer if you fail? The coin they would have made if they had been mining?

It's pretty easy to make all sorts of promises on an internet forum. You lose nothing if you fail. You go back to being accountants. Your customers lose their money.

I'm amused it took me posting the KNC link on this and the litecointalk thread for you to dream up this "upgrade". You must really have your finger on the pulse over at Alpha tech HQ. You're no doubt running around trying to figure out if you have enough money in the kitty to fund it, if you have to open up batch 2 or just head for the Bahamas.

BTW if you do decide to get a refund don't let them fob you off with 70%. Contact the citizens advice bureau  or trading standards and get a full refund. Their refund policy is totally illegal under the distance selling regulations in the UK.
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legendary
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Hilarious fucking thread.

On the one hand, we have assholes selling miners they know will be obsolete and slower than the latest GPU's by the time they are released, and on the other we have fuckwits who pre-ordered now chasing their tails hoping to negotiate faster miners into the deal before they ship, or cancelling their orders at a 30% loss before their processed.

Let me grab the popcorn and work my way back through some of these posts. I'm fucking crying, laughing here LOL
legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1000
Antifragile
The Gridseed was dead before not on arrival because their policy was clear: for every $6 you give us, $1 goes for development, 1$ for your product and 400% for us to make free hardware with your money.

For Alpha-t i will be seriously willing not to pay the remaining 70% and get a 75% refund of the deposit minus 70£ i will still be better off than with junk 5MHs when everybody else is mining by the 100 MHs

There are many ways Alpha-t can recover, for example open batch one again for more people with a large ticket fee of say 10%, of course no one will take that offer before a singing and dancing prototype is produced.

Wow, KNC putting out a 100Mhs Miner for $10,000 USD?
When did they start having those for pre-order?
That is a game changer.
full member
Activity: 223
Merit: 116
The Gridseed was dead before not on arrival because their policy was clear: for every $6 you give us, $1 goes for development, 1$ for your product and 400% for us to make free hardware with your money.

For Alpha-t i will be seriously willing not to pay the remaining 70% and get a 75% refund of the deposit minus 70£ i will still be better off than with junk 5MHs when everybody else is mining by the 100 MHs

There are many ways Alpha-t can recover, for example open batch one again for more people with a large ticket fee of say 10%, of course no one will take that offer before a singing and dancing prototype is produced.
hero member
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@brother3 never go full retard bro

I am half way there!!!  Do I qualify???
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@brother3 never go full retard bro
hero member
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http://hash-master.com/item-type/asic-scrypt-miners

Look at their price for 48 MH/s!!!   I ordered 10 !   So cheap!!!!

 Grin Grin Grin

hero member
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Hey folks!

We would like to assure you we are very aware of our competitors hash rates and pricing and intend to match them, we started development in May 2013 and are on schedule to ship in July giving us the clear lead. During development we decided to make our units larger and upgradable so we could accommodate increased hash rates with ease, we gave ourselves this leeway for a variety of reasons. And the announcement of Scrypt miners from competitors was of course one such reason that we anticipated and planned for. A full announcement with details on our new batch 1 hash rates will be released very soon!


Translation: We can't screw everyone quite as badly as we'd planned to, now that competition has emerged and they are screwing everyone a lot less. So instead of making an insane profit, we've been reduced to making a reasonable one after we add additional hardware to our units.
hero member
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Hey folks!

We would like to assure you we are very aware of our competitors hash rates and pricing and intend to match them, we started development in May 2013 and are on schedule to ship in July giving us the clear lead. During development we decided to make our units larger and upgradable so we could accommodate increased hash rates with ease, we gave ourselves this leeway for a variety of reasons. And the announcement of Scrypt miners from competitors was of course one such reason that we anticipated and planned for. A full announcement with details on our new batch 1 hash rates will be released very soon!


I find it hard to believe that you're going to upgrade us to match KnC even though you'll likely end up shipping around the same time...but I can't wait to hear the plan.

https://www.kncminer.com/categories/litecoin-mining-hardware
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Probably the same time as Alpha T then Grin
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Well Butterly Labs have upgraded their customers 250%
Instead of a 600GHs Monarch they get 1 THs Imperial Monarch the minute they ship PLUS a free 600 Monarch at the end of the queue


Shipping February 30th 2015
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Well Butterly Labs have upgraded their customers 250%
Instead of a 600GHs Monarch they get 1 THs Imperial Monarch the minute they ship PLUS a free 600 Monarch at the end of the queue

So Fiaz my dear good friend i think you have a few ways out of this, before the hoolligangs become langoliers

1. You can have a chat with your guys in Dexel and have them put some fairy dust into the chips so that it performs better

or

2. You can offer one or two or whatever extra cards for your batch 1 customers and work out better pricing for your batch 2

Having started in May 2013 is not looking good for you at the moment, what you're saying is that you've had way more lead time yet your final product will be 400% slower than your competitor who just started

Not pressing you to lose money but something is wrong and an announcement will probably make things worse if it has nothing tangible around the following fact:

People who did NOT trust you are now in 400% better position than people who DID trust you, so work out some magic.
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