Topic: Already delays in BFL shipment plans? - page 18. (Read 49567 times)

What exactly do you want me to do?  Fly to Asia and knock on someones door?  

Let's be realistic here.  I can't very well force someone to give me a date that's accurate, since by forcing them I might be putting them in a position to give me a false date just to get me off their ass... and that helps no one.


Population:  CreativeX

If this is true then BFL's ASIC program is a complete failure. BTCFPGA admitted they had a prototype working long ago and they started accepting zero interest loans pre-orders months after BFL. If BFL doesn't have a prototype of some sort by now then I propose we create a new tag here to go along with the scammer tag.

Behold...the INCOMPETENT tag.

Josh, you just posted over on your own forums that the chips are "still on the other side of the ocean" and that you're "working on getting an exact day".  Why the hell are you getting into pissing matches here instead of moving heaven and earth to get that information and relay it to your users?

They don't have a test unit/prototype.  If they did, you can bet your bottom they'd be showing it off the moment they could.

This.  What he's doing is just bad business practice.  Support your own damn product, and leave the rest alone.


You know, I had been using EclipseMC for my mining pools when I had gpu's and I was planning on bringing my asic's there too.  Unfortunately Inaba's such an ass-hat that I'm going to have to find a different pool.

/queue post from Inaba that he doesn't care where I take my miners anyway.

Which fake facts might those be sir? Your posts are always long on rhetoric and doublespeak and short on substance.

How about proving you have a test unit functioning at claimed speed? Surely enough time has passed for that to be showable if an order is in for so many chips...

Nah. That would be too easy.

Inaba, can you at least tell us if you have had one batch of chips already come through, and they didn't work out, so you're waiting on another batch?

And this, kids, is why Creativex is a failure in life while those around him succeed.  It's why he trolls the Bitcointalk forums, manufacturing "fake" facts to make himself feel better.  I'd pity him if I cared, but I don't.

Callous Inaba is Callous.

I don't know who you are talking about? Whenever I see that screen name I see the name Inability.

See take a look




Well, thats pretty harsh.

My speculation is that they didn't know their ship date would be pushed out until their first batch of chips failed.  That's when they had to push back the ship date significantly.  Midway through October, they were still very confident about meeting the early November deadline (pushed to then from late October due to miscellaneous parts not having arrived yet).  They were also ready to bring out two prominent members to view the prototypes right after they built them in early November.  Unfortunately, the new chips didn't work out for whatever reason, and all they could do is put them on the boards and show us pictures, while they wait for the new fixed batch of chips to arrive.

The language of the postings from all members of BFL definitely shifted late October.  It seems as though they were fully expecting to be able to ship them out in early November, then something happened and they realized they could not.  My bet is that "something" that happened was something wrong with the chips, especially since someone pointed out the bulging on one of them in the pictures.

They did say right from the start that they expected to ship late October provided there were no unexpected delays.... well viola, unexpected delays!  I don't blame them for things beyond their control.  I always viewed October as a best-case scenario, since they pretty well stated as much that's what it was.

EDIT:  I will be sorely disappointed if they are unable to ship them out before other ASIC vendors begin their shipments, but I made my bet, and I'll deal with the consequences of losing it.

This is what bugs me so much! I was duped... they knew damn well there was no way in hell they were going to make October, yet they were tight lipped about it and secured the majority of the preorders. There's no way that they didn't know that they'd be late considering they've delayed over two months now. Now people are stuck... you can get a refund and go to the back of the line somewhere else or just suck it up. A truly crappy scenario.

Yes, the CYA January 1st has been there since the beginning. One little detail, buried under the pile of promises and hints that implied shipping in October, then November, then December.  Regardless of who says what, the fact is that BFL profited from these failed statements by locking in a huge chunk of miners' investment funds against their competitors. A rather convenient failure.

I actually wouldn't mind if he stood his ground. I just mind when he attacks, insults, belittles and distorts, but maybe it's just me. I've never cared much for passive aggressive asshats.

I'm the opposite.  I like the nothing-held-back approach as opposed to the cookie-cutter sunshine-laced BS you usually get from company representatives.  The world is too politically correct, and people are too easily offended these days (and companies are too willing to cater to their whims to avoid bad PR).  I appreciate someone who is not worried about whose feelings he might hurt with what he says, and I appreciate it even more when a company holds the same attitude.  Josh stands his ground for what he believes in, regardless of what other people think or how other people treat him, and Butterfly Labs obviously cares little about maintaining a fake, rosy-looking PR image, and I like them both for it.

Call me weird, but that's my opinion.

It's what they're best at...excuses. How about giving your customers a 33% hash rate increase for making them wait an extra month quarter?

BFL is about to announce it's going to be delayed another month. They are just avoiding making the announcement, but already know it to be true.

...and it's posts like this that pushed me away from BFL. Who is Inaba and why does he say "we've" when he's talking about BFL? Oh that's right he wears two hats but consistently forgets to swap them when acting as a BFL mouthpiece. BTCFPGA's potentially slipping shipping schedule in no way parallels BFL's estimateS and missed shipping scheduleS. You should watch some training videos on how to represent a company. The McDonalds around the corner has more professional personalities representing them at the drive thru window.

yes any updates?  the last know BFL delivery date was generated into this clock.  http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20121126T10&p0=405&fg1=ea0606&fg2=808080&msg=BFL+%7C+ASIC+-+FIRST+SHIPMENT

that'd be today and the clock is now counting backwards LOL

Haha, no prob!   I am still enjoying my GPUs and FPGAs so I really do not mind these delays at all. Although I am pretty excited for ASICs also and hope I can get them going on my Raspberry Pi!