Topic: Already delays in BFL shipment plans? - page 29. (Read 49567 times)

Wow...and I thought *I* was easy going.

If I ordered in July and was told I'd receive products in October, I'd be PO'd with the poorly handled delays right about now.

Also, I think Avalon is a class act all the way, zero interest in running them down, but they'll almost surely have the highest power consumption numbers. Particularly when you scale to multiple units that could easily be run off one low powered laptop.

@ DoomDumas

What is "Plan B", if any?

At what point do you start thinking of heading for the exit? I assume you have at least several thousand invested so I want to hear your thoughts on what you feel can go wrong and what would shake you enough to pull out (if anything).

What are the warning signs to look out for in your investment?

Edit: The reason I ask is because so far I have heard people say plenty about refunds...but so far I haven't heard of an actual  backup strategy. (except diversification)

Hi all, lots of different tought in there !

Here's mine : I've ordered BFL rigs in July and others in September.  Before putting my order, I knew possible delay past October could occurs.  I can deal with that, so I ordered.  I've look to the competition, have almost ordered some, but seems that the power usage stuff is won by BFL !  We'll see. 

As I take nothing for granted, neighter 3 competitors shipping dates. 
Again, let's see.  I Like the concept of self contained unit announced by Avalon, this is great, I also think they will make their own miner, open source.. I like it too.   I may order some Avalon stuff, but I'm in no hurry..

For the point about who will be the first to ship, I don't care that much, sure it could produce some extra BTC, but im in for long long long.. So, over all, it does'nt change that much.

I've no problem with the so called "interest-free loan" to BFL.. I've paid in BTC, so for me it was'nt work-earned $ anyway.  Ok, BTC were 6$ and they are now 12$.. No problem, they also could have been to 3$ today.  I've sold more than 5k BTC well under 1$ in the past, no regrets, as I was always happy to sell them.  In investement, speculation, regrets are useless IMO.

Before 2013, I will probably order 1 or 2 more rig from BFL, and maybe 1 from Avalon.  Dont know about bAsic, as their power consumption seems higher than BFL, and it's not a self-contained unit like Avalon !

To conclude, I spent only what I could lose overnight without problems..

Nothing has been proven yet, so dont take anything granted !

Next weeks / months will be exiting for sure, no matter what happen 

For the readers who just tuned in, bitsnpieces is also known here as frizz23.

Oh? You speak on behalf of BFL? You work as an accountant or something like for them to know that for sure?

BFL might not hold coins - but they sure hold our (pre order) money. Lots.

Or kept mining with gpu for all thus time enjoying good profits... Plus not having cash tied up in bfl...

And had I bought a truckload of Twinkies last week I'd be rich today, what's your point?  BTC could have also been worth $1 today.  If I could predict the future I'd certainly have more than doubled my money in 5 months.

Not to mention, any time you pre-order anything you're giving someone an interest free loan.  Pre-Order anything off of Steam or any video games, there's an interest free loan.  Heck, buy any gift card in the world and you're giving that company an interest free loan.

It's well known that BFL uses Bit-pay, which automatically deposits USD at the time of purchase. BFL never actually holds any coins at any time.

Price in Jul: $6/btc
Price in Nov: $12/btc

Had you invested by buying BTC instead of giving BFL a loan, you would have doubled your money. BFL thanks you greatly for the huge interest-free loan.

Granted, the fact that October has come and gone and November is half done is driving me crazy!

But when I preordered, the delivery date wasn't the reason I bought. It was the hash power I could finally have in my hands at affordable costs. That hasn't changed and in fact was bolstered by the increase of 40% while I've been waiting.

Missing the halving is a tough pill to swallow and so is the sheer quantity of ASICs being preordered. Nevertheless, I'm glad I pulled the plug back in early July and wait anxiously for the black boxes to arrive on my doorstep.

Now hurry the FREAK up guys!

To ship goods from China to US with DHL,  usually it will take 4 days or so to deliver goods to your hands.

Ahh cool. Did not notice that.
I'm pretty much risking all I want to on this game now anyway. I did try to get a Avalon initially, but missed out. Good luck .

Like I mentioned, we plan to release in smaller batch to avoid the whole back-order situation our competitor is running into, with that said, we expect all 300 units to finish shipping out before Jan ends, currently we are looking waterfall of 300 units every 2 weeks. This also means there will be a second batch soon after, with a shipping "zone" of 2 weeks from ordering.

to be honest, avalon wasn't even in my radar, since they planned to ship on january when they start opening preorders.

That, and shipping from china can be quite..a pain in the ass.

BFL can't get shit straight for months, don't and never expect them to get shit straight until you see the proof of them TESTING and shipping stuff out.

haha, october my ass.

If the choice is a fairly modest power advantage(65nm vs 90nm) or having the ASIC just a couple weeks sooner, it's a no-brainer. Power consumption will matter down the road, but if BFL delays again and Tom does ship on time, some of those early bASIC customers would have an ROI measured in weeks. Don't think they'll care if their ASIC consumes 100w or 60.

Anyway BFL lied about both shipping dates and power consumption last product cycle. So far this time they've only lied about shipping dates, but their credibility is non-existent in my book. I'll believe those perfectly uniform power consumption numbers across their entire SC product line as soon as they're out in the wild.

I am interested to win the short race. As we well know long race can not be won at all. I mean that we will have to reinvest everything again and again.
I can not predict what will happen in 1-2 years period at all. Even electricity costs=0, i am not sure what will be the profit of this units ....Not mentioning the fact that they probably will not have any resell value apart of the BTC community itself.

True! But the quantity involved won't be too damaging. Unless a much larger personal farm for Avalon is made in the same run.

Unless Avalon happen to be the first one:)

2x BFL 2xbASIC. Both first run orders. I'll win the short and the long race no matter what .

I wish I had the money to order from both,oh well.................

Even if BFL ships second,they will still have the power use advantage.So in the longrun they win anyway