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Man, you definitely chose the wrong target. There is nothing that either you or your campaign manager can pit against me (apart from personal dislikes). So yes, your exclusion from the trust lists is well-deserved
Topic: An obvious case of trust abuse (DT members welcome) - page 2. (Read 2827 times)
Man, you definitely chose the wrong target. There is nothing that either you or your campaign manager can pit against me (apart from personal dislikes). So yes, your exclusion from the trust lists is well-deserved
The fact is, I’m abuse system to leave you the negative feedback you definitely deserve, even though I can’t be in DT for it - but that’s the price I’m willing to pay. How low did this forum go that a troll and spammer like this could be part of any campaign at all, even if one of the most respectable members left such feedback.
Please no nonsense about negative and neutral feedback, we clarified that a long time ago.
In my case, I just wanted to see his feedback on my profile.
I remember some users were called out because of this in the past, this is not good use of trust system...Code:
List the users who you trust
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List the users who you trust to have good trust ratings and good trust lists
It's confusing that the forum calls both Trust lists and feedback "Trust". On my Trust list viewer, I replaced "users you Trust" by "users who's judgement you Trust" to highlight the distinction.
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Means I did trust him.
If you trust him, which in your case you trusted him financially, you can leave him a positive feedback so that you can know whom you are dealing with and others can do business with him. On the other hand, trust with financially does not mean you should trust his feedback. Both are very different. You can check how many of my posts have been deleted by mods on bpip.org
I was trying to share the main point, not accusing you of being a spammer, manIt was not intended that way either. I just saw an opportunity in case this issue comes up again as it had already happened in the past (the whole thread is def worth reading)
Anyways, my last reply here, Hoping deisik would be satisfied from my action
It is still a ticking bomb, though
You had me in your trust network and you trusted my judgement before I called you out for trying to help scam yobit advertise here/whatever and after I tagged you, you excluded me.
Prior to that, you trusted my judgement for at least 34 weeks...
Observations
Yeah, excluded you so I wouldn't see my red.Prior to that, you trusted my judgement for at least 34 weeks...
Observations
After that I did just remove you. And didn't trust your judgment again, it was all a mistake and some misunderstandings. BTW it's all in the past now
In my case, I just wanted to see his feedback on my profile.
I remember some users were called out because of this in the past, this is not good use of trust system...Code:
List the users who you trust
I just had a smooth transaction by that time with him and considering he's generosity to my Charity, how can't I trust him...
Means I did trust him.Anyways, my last reply here, Hoping deisik would be satisfied from my action.
You can check how many of my posts have been deleted by mods on bpip.org
I was trying to share the main point, not accusing you of being a spammer, man. In my case, I just wanted to see his feedback on my profile.
I remember some users were called out because of this in the past, this is not good use of trust system...There are just a few of you on my Network who I just trust based on my observations and for not having various transactions.
You had me in your trust network and you trusted my judgement before I called you out for trying to help scam yobit advertise here/whatever and after I tagged you, you excluded me.Prior to that, you trusted my judgement for at least 34 weeks...
Observations
Counter feedback is removed...
It's really sorry to see that higher ranked users even mess with the forum feedback system and the forum rules. Tagging someone for shit posting is really kind of abuse and this should only be handled by moderators only. If deisik were shit posting, it would be a fiar decision to deisik if Lucius have reported the said spam
You can check how many of my posts have been deleted by mods on bpip.org
Many months ago, I remember that I asked from this forum user to not quote me again because most of his posts were pretty low quality/spammy and I was spending unnecessary effort while answering his non-sense but still
I remember every brawl with every poster I had in the past here or elsewhere
You went completely unnoticed until you showed up with that ridiculous demand, unexpected and out of the blue. Technically, I can't even say that you were posting bullshit as your posts were most certainly just like that, perfectly unimpressive and mediocre. Just saying
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My habit of adding users on my Network comes for a reason and not just because I wanted them to be on DT. I just had a smooth transaction by that time with him and considering he's generosity to my Charity, how can't I trust him...
There are just a few of you on my Network who I just trust based on my observations and for not having various transactions. In my case, I just wanted to see his feedback on my profile. As you can see whenever I got a smooth transaction I left them positive feedbacks.
Though I just hope removing him would be fine...
@cabalism13: I'm surprised you're not mentioned in this topic yet, while you're the one who put Lucius on DT2. May I suggest to reconsider this?
I sent them a PM too (this morning) asking to review the thread and reconsider their decision to add Lucius to DT2
You've reached DT2 2 months ago
I only noticed my negative trust yesterday (I mean the yellow -1 under avatar). I had DT2 disabled and opened one of my topics with another browser. I was rather surprised to see my account referred to as a scammer
As for this, I am not important user on this forum, and I bet I will never be on DT1&DT2 list
You've reached DT2 2 months ago. According to BPIP, cabalism13 (who was on DT1 at that time) added you to his Trust list on the same day you left him this positive feedback:I've been following this topic for a while, and want to add my 2 3 Satoshis:
In general:
I can add a link to my topic to my quote: LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust systemIn general:
- I don't think you should tag something that should be handled by Mods.
- Before leaving feedback, ask yourself if it makes the forum better.
- Try to make the feedback and tags you leave as accurate as possible. It's a reference for later on, and it's your "business card" as you present your judgement to the forum.
As I consider it an obvious example of trust abuse, I ask DT members to tag this user appropriately. I'm not going to retaliate personally as I don't see a lot of sense in that
In my opinion, the proper tag for Trust abuse is a neutral tag. See me doing this here. But you've left a neutral tag already for Lucius, so well done 
@Lucius: May I suggest you change this tag to neutral? Your red feedback doesn't fit theymos' description:
Delete feedback
You can delete feedback by visiting the user's Trust sumary. Any feedback left by you has a link to (Delete) it:
Please delete feedback when it's no longer appropriate. You can for instance replace old negative feedback by new neutral feedback when the situation justifies it. If the situation is the other way around, I suggest to leave the old neutral feedback, and add new negative feedback.
You may also want to read this post from theymos where he shares his intention for the feedback system.You can delete feedback by visiting the user's Trust sumary. Any feedback left by you has a link to (Delete) it:
Please delete feedback when it's no longer appropriate. You can for instance replace old negative feedback by new neutral feedback when the situation justifies it. If the situation is the other way around, I suggest to leave the old neutral feedback, and add new negative feedback.
@cabalism13: I'm surprised you're not mentioned in this topic yet, while you're the one who put Lucius on DT2. May I suggest to reconsider this?
@other DT1s: I don't like excluding users over small things, so in my opinion it would be best if Lucius/Cabalism13 resolve this. Too many pages have been filled for this already!
It's really sorry to see that higher ranked users even mess with the forum feedback system and the forum rules. Tagging someone for shit posting is really kind of abuse and this should only be handled by moderators only. If deisik were shit posting, it would be a fiar decision to deisik if Lucius have reported the said spam.
Many months ago, I remember that I asked from this forum user to not quote me again because most of his posts were pretty low quality/spammy and I was spending unnecessary effort while answering his non-sense but still,
I don't believe he deserved a red trust rating for that.
I ignored him and that was enough to solve the problem. (he also didn't quote me again since I warned him.)
If he is breaking the rules, just report his posts and the mods will decide what to do with them. (Either delete the posts, ban him or do nothing.)
I don't believe he deserved a red trust rating for that.
I ignored him and that was enough to solve the problem. (he also didn't quote me again since I warned him.)
If he is breaking the rules, just report his posts and the mods will decide what to do with them. (Either delete the posts, ban him or do nothing.)
Here's the PM I sent them yesterday:
Since I didn't receive any reply and the negative feedback was not removed, I assume that there is no such intention. So we have a malicious trust abuser who is now a DT2 member. I'm not sure how it stands with other DT members, but it is definitely against the purposes of the trust system
Feels like a moment of truth to me
Since I didn't receive any reply and the negative feedback was not removed, I assume that there is no such intention. So we have a malicious trust abuser who is now a DT2 member. I'm not sure how it stands with other DT members, but it is definitely against the purposes of the trust system
Feels like a moment of truth to me
Oh, you've been tagged in "old" system and you got yourself a "scammer sign" on top of your topics. Anyway, I countered this , please send PM to Lucius and let me know when he either removes it/change it to neutral/get excluded from DT
I sent them a PM asking to remove the negative feedback. Will keep everyone posted
Oh, you've been tagged in "old" system and you got yourself a "scammer sign" on top of your topics. Anyway, I countered this , please send PM to Lucius and let me know when he either removes it/change it to neutral/get excluded from DT.
Hey I understand your frustration. There are a few facts you can take comfort in.
They are not DT so this shows as untrusted feedback
They are not DT so this shows as untrusted feedback
They seem to have made into DT2
It's not beyond the realm of possibilities that Lucius will end up on DT2, but if he continues to leave frivolous reviews such as this the odds are getting smaller and smaller
Okay, we are there. Now what?
Since he isn't on DT so we don't need counter tag and we can't ask directly to remove his feedback
It loos like circumstances have changed
The only appropriate thing a DT member could do, would be to include Lucius in their trust list with a "~".
Which would basically render his feedback invisible
Which would basically render his feedback invisible
Time for action?
I'm sure that if Lucius refuses to remove/alter the trust, then DT member will take appropriate action (as the new changes to the DT system were designed... theymos wanted there to be potential consequences for leaving false/inappropriate ratings)
Let's see how it goes in practice
Is the request to abuse DT system because of some private thing perhaps deserves that this user is get at least neutral tag?
No.As I consider it an obvious example of trust abuse, I ask DT members to tag this user appropriately.
That's why I'm asking a DT member to tag this user appropriately until he chooses to remove his feedback..
Now I'm waiting for DT members' action (whatever that could be)
Okay, I decided to tag them with a neutral rating with a link to this thread/If anyone is with me on that, you can do something to that tune
I will be satisfied if forum members leave them a neutral rating with a reference to this thread like what I already did
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