Topic: [ANN] [BEN] Benjamins ◄ SHA-256 ►◄ BOUNTY AVAILABLE to make BEN merge mineable!! - page 21. (Read 94341 times)

The two options: adding merged mining, or changing the block time, are two things I can't do. Still trying to find someone that will help. I've even offered bounties in BEN or BTC

If we can be merge mined, we can jump on any of the SHA pools that will add it. It's free BEN to anyone mining the standard coin. Or there is Fusion, which is set up as a second chain. So if anyone knows how to set up a pool, you can set it to mine Benjamins, and mine Fusion at the same time, like DIEM just did here: http://fusioncoin.org/pools/DIEM/public

Not sure who set their pool up, but if BEN gets merge mining added to it, we can be added to any pool that merge mines any SHA coins

It's not hard for someone who knows how to do it, I just don't know how

Yes that's true, but also, he might be working on doing so.  Others have offered in the thread to help, so I suppose they could respond here, since the source code is open, and all.  They need only prove their merit by analyzing the code. 

Probably it would be easier for a skilled coin forker to just make their own coin and call it "Ghengis" or "Loyola"  ...But here we have the spirit of common sense; Benjamin Franklin.  Father of libraries.

Therefore, I am seeing this as more of an opportunity to understand the bitcoin and altcoin issues as a larger problem in terms of the crew of pumpers/dumpers/ and the dev cloud who enables them.  This ain't like "Microsoft Money(tm)" failing, wherein their source code would be closed.  This actually is open sourced and so what matters is what sorts of people are inspired by open source.  Any of us can read the code and see how Ben "fucked up" as he admits.  It's not even a really big fuck up, it's minor for a developer.  But, maybe also he has been kidnapped?  I will continue to learn C++, read the code and continue to mine in the 1776 spirit.

Also I would point out that Ben said the block explorer was constantly getting DDOSes and I expect it still is, since I can't get it to load either.  So it's kinda fog of war at this time.

He cannot merge it or change the block time, so, we need to find someone that can actually do one of those things.
Anyone have any ideas?
I don't, obviously.

I am not talking about taking over the coin, I am saying, we need to get Ben the help he can't find.

Well, they may also look in, and read the thread, and do the opposite.  They may join us, exactly for the reasons above.

But it's not up to you, nor to me, since we are not able to fork the coin.  Yes, on Earth in our time, the 1776 spirit is as fragile as a budding plum.  But yes, since Ben is MIA ( I don't see how anyone could call it a pump and dump he just made an error in which code he released, and it is easy enough to fork if some 1776 type coder would step up, but we see that: Knowledge of code and knowledge of history, are not compatible.  Most people who are able to fork a coin, don't care about history or they'd have recognized what is happening.

But you are kinda right, in terms of your estimation of this group: Will they see that a blockchain is essentially like a vote?  That mining a blockchain on principle is a vote, of a kind?  I am talking to the future more than the present, you understand.  In terms of voting, shall we call the miners, the electoral college?  They determine what coins we get?  So then when they jump ship, the miners leave, well, isn't that kinda like the "summer soldier and the springtime patriot" of poetic fame?

This is not the time for weakness in terms of shifting to some crappy blockchain, this is the time for realness to come together and mine this thing and fork this thing.  I don't care if hey have to recruit some 15 years old newbie dev to tell Ben how to do it, I am saying, ENOUGH of the crappecoins, let us make one 1776 blockchain work.

But yeah, in many ways you are right: Whatever the bleeding edge of tech-wizards are doing, will probably be 90% meant to rip people off.  I mean that tech knowledge is now used fo evil, most of the time.  In the old days of pre-2001 there was a hope that tech-knowers would make a better world, but no.  They lacked any willpower or courage, and made a more EXPLOITATIVE world for all of us.  I have seen viruses rise from nothing, to gov't controlled weapons.  It is time for a real discussion. 

And if Ben never shows up again, I will assume he was killed by evil assheads who are against true value in money.  Math work done, is valuable.  It may not be valuable in the minds of people who crap on altcoins as a career, but those people are kinda irrelevant. 

In the future, I will still be in this thread, invoking the spirit of Benjamin Franklin, whom Ben admirably did rouse.  The Founding Father spirit is more important than any one man.  In the face of the whole IT industry being populated with assheads, we need something grassroots, and real, and open source.  We have that here, though yes, all the points you make are good.

You can keep on about how we need this and that, and call up all the 1776 spirit you want but without more hash, this coin is going to continue to take forever and when anyone looks in, they will see that is the case and not join us.

Ben really needs to pop in here with SOMETHING, anything, to at least let us know he didn't bail.
If there is still a fork in the works, great, there is still a target to work towards. If not, we are slowly going to lose what hashrate we do have until the coin dies.
(or is taken over by someone else, whichever.)

If I had the cash, or even the coin to trade for cash, I would drop the lot of it on more gear to point at hasher.
Even if only to help keep the network alive.
I'll try to win the lotto this week.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/is-the-us-stock-market-rigged/


^^^ Anyone who held a series 7 license as I did, back prior to 2000, knew that HFT was gonna take over.  I just didn't think the douchebags who are in charge, would allow it to root and destroy the entire US dollar.

The entire system is rigged against the human.

Therefore human, seize the power yourself.  HFT lawsuits/exposure means the whole thing will be falling.  We need 1776 mindset.  We need something which is firewalled against the 100% airtight fraud matrix of fiat money.

REMEMBER: The war of 1776 took roughly 13 years to complete.  That's 40+ seasons of warfare.


We might update that: A true blockchain, is what Ben has given us.  If we can keep it.  So I am glad that at least somewhere, there is a chance for the noble and frugal and thrifty and correct spirit of 1776 to aid us.  Now is the time we need realness, and real people.

Yeah this ones a killer, we are at 215% of projected shares LOL

But it feels good to navigate this canoe downstream until Ben swims back in.  Mining doesn't cost much in comparison to being able to feel you are contributing to a 1776 mindset.  I think about the US Constitution every day, it is a document which is meant to control the power of the government which is why it is so HATED by our leaders.  They hate it because it's supposed to limit them (not that it does, they just use EOs all day).  So I am happy to use my mining gear to reach back to something real, from 1776.

Thanks for being a long term pool, it is too bad pitythepool bailed on their miners, I would have liked to see them wait for people to get their coins confirmed but that's probably too much to ask from them.  You need not just good dedicated miners, you need good pool operators.

Not dead, just kidnapped by those who wish to prevent the spirit of Benjamin F. from being invoked.

hasher.ca is where I am at 24/7

total is 240gh for the Ben network, it was at 50th for a while while the suckminers had it, so the nature of mining is scalable.  So, just because the suckminers are not happy, they will go mine peercoin or whatever.  But none of those coins has the spirit of 1776.

I am happy to mine 24/7 for a 1776 spirit.  I am planning to mine BEN all Summer long and also to understand the source code.  I will be getting my people into this coin because I feel it is the most honest one fielded so far.  So, if you are a miner, then mine, if you are looking to play markets and pump/dump then there probably are better blockchains for that, lots of fluff and flash.  For me, I want something solid, open sourced, and with a 1776 mindset.  I will mine Benjamins ongoing, and I am pretty sure Ben will be released from his evil captors but in the meantime I need to understand the bitcoin source and C++ better so this will be a fun thing to do.  It feels good to mine on principle.  And this also allows me to speak with passion to me friends and neighbors about something meaningful, and connected to 1776.

Every proof of work done on a Benjamin coin, is real in terms of integrity.  Does a FRN fiat debt note have integrity?  Benjamin Franklin knows the difference, do you?

My pool is working just fine

http://ben.hasher.ca

It just takes a while to get  block, but wouldn't if someone hit it with some decent hash. That is the only problem right now. The coin can survive if its mined.

BEN is Alive I Tell you, haven't you seen him lol

BEN is dead right ?
Did not see any pool working right.
Only about 100GH on BEN now.
poor

In Ben's day they used cloth I suppose.

But in terms of those humans who mine, I'd say <1% of humans are mining.  So, mining isn't like the gold rush, it's actually an ongoing, community-sustained process.  Just like Benjamin Franklin and libraries, for example.  Libraries are not scams to sell some crap idea called "books".  Similarly, blockchain is not just a tool to get marketplace where pump and dump occur.

If you buy some crypto, you aren't investing.  You've exchanged fiat debt.  I can use fractions of Benjamins or any crypto and engage in worldwide commerce with my fellowman while mining and strengthening the blockchain.  This is a good thing.  Person to person transactions based on good personal integrity, is something the cryptocoin community needs.

And as soon as Ben is released from the US Treasury Department kidnappers, we will be right back in the spirit.  

I only wish I could afford that $350 biterupter. Or even another Ant.
But I can't, because my daughter insists on have diapers. Silly girl.

If I could, I would, and I would still point it at Ben. Until I see or hear that the coin is declared dead, I am not giving up on it.

24,257 < current block
24,256 * 100 BEN per block =  2,425,600 Benjamins in total float.  ...ALSO, is the block explorer still being DDOSed?

2,425,600 BEN * .0000114 BTC = 27.65 btc total market cap or roughly 13k USD  --damn cheap for a functioning 1776 free non premined blockchain awaiting its first fork (with a strapped dev no less).

BUT

80 hours per block + diff adjust in 1952 blocks = 6,506 days or 20 years.  Hehe, Bens will be super rare between now and 2034 I guess.  As rare as 1776 spirit.

Well, these are the days that try men's souls.  I say some whale can buy all $13k worth of Ben and hold them and never sell.  Or, some great visionary could bring in say 60 new miners who each buy a 350 USD biterupter = 2TH online, pushing the blockchain.  THAT is what will get the TX times up.  Well, assuming Ben is held captive by evil forces for the full 20 years I mean.

It is kinda good to have a slow blockchain, its called security, also to require lots of confirmations is a good thing, a solid TX history.  Sure you could write non secure code over it like Gox TX API but that's defeating the purpose.  So, I think there is reason to mine even at these absurd difficulties.  It is called: long term vision.  

Yes, having merchants wait a week for their money is an issue, and sure, paysha knows it'll have to be an escrow function for at least some small portion of time, therefore, if Paysha can simply own say 500k Bens (uhm, 5000 dollars?) then they would plenty of Ben's to put into merchant's wallets while the blocktimes are slow.  But yes you will need to enlist POS merchants as miners, that is the only way forward to give people true security.  Humans need hard crypto at Point of Purchase, nothing less will do, and enlisting merchants to do that (or third party merchant mining services) to do that, only serves to bond the merchants and the concept of them merchants supporting their blockchain.  You need buy-in from the merchants which even now is only just starting for BTC so it is still anyone's game.  I see this as an honest coin which OP will fork well once he is released from those who would thwart his efforts.

I would suggest that an ant miner costs 30 USD and gives you the power to build part of a functioning whole network, regardless of price.

I have to wonder why modern humans don't see the Antminer as a miracle in terms of low cost hi hashing machine.  Haha, it took 10,000 years to get to February of 2014 when the first Antminers mined Benjamins and people are already jaded and over it less than 60 days in.  HAHA

Come on people, have some sand in your guts!    Why would you think you can be an investor and not a miner with some electronic skin in the game?  That world is fading.  The new way is to participate in profits equally according to work done.  Also, if your dev gets kidnapped, try to find him or understand where to go from there, don't get all panicky and shit.

Well anyway I expect a fork soon from Ben he is just kidnapped by the US Treasury, so therefore I suggest all 2,425,600 Benjamins be snatched up, held and never sold at least until he is freed.  There are still 9 million + Ben to be mined, and I am pretty sure 1776 spirit will still exist in the year 2044.

FREE BEN

Anyway, I am learning about C++ but others will get to this faster than me.  So, I will post some inspirational words from the old days, of Ben:


Damn good stuff.  Worth at least a year of hopeful 1776 style diggin in the dirt.  Investors, may want to get your hands dirty and buy an Antminer, or better yet, get every member of your family a bit erupter cube and point them at Ben mining, simply for the HOPE of a good chain to the past, and the future.

[The author is long Benjamins and mining 24/7 until the evil ones release Ben]

stratum+tcp://stratum.ben.hasher.ca:3393

Updated my config file to the new URL...  Mining 24/7 in the 1776 spirit while reading Ben's code and learning.

Well crap Crackfoo. Now I have to go to the basement... It's all dark and full of bugs and shit.

For what it's worth:

We've migrated this coin to our new servers (Updated stratum URL). Now with DDoS protection and faster all around!

Earn some BEN mining at the Hasher pool:

http://ben.hasher.ca

PPLNS
Mobile Friendly
VARDIFF Support
Worker/Block/Payout Notifications
DDoS Protection

Happy Hashing!

^I Second That ^

Say it ain't so Ben!


Are any of the devs for this coin willing to pop in and have a word, let us know where things stand, something? Pretty please?