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Topic: [ANN] Biotron.io Announcement - Transparent personal data analytics platform - page 82. (Read 29547 times)

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It's all about the cryptocoins
not sure yet of this is "something new" or "something better than" ... but won't hurt keeping track of this project.
good luck guys !
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These are encouraging new. The more blockchain technology becomes mainstream the better for Biotron.
It applies to almost all of the good crypto projects.
Most of people here are seeing cryptocurrencies as an investment opportunity and i think its not the actual point, its about widely used, but of course when many people come in to use it, there will be a huge amount of money too (exchange fiat to crypto).
I believe in cryptocurrency and blockchain future.

While I like your idealistic point of view, coins are hardly used as except as an investment right now. Coins like NAV who came out with NAVPay have struggled even though people still buy into it thinking it is undervalued. There are payment bottlenecks that need to be sorted first. Not too many vendors came forward to implement that system when it was readily available except for one pornstar. For her, it fits the model - anonymous and cheap. Not so for many others though. It might be a little irrelevant to Biotron here but I am just saying that any new tokens will be an investment vehicle for now and the foreseeable future.

I think you are right. If it was not an investment, nobody would participate in an ICO after all. It would be nice though if platforms with utility tokens were actually used instead of hording the tokens. That would speed up adoption.

The ability to use the token for something valuable instead of just holding it will give a better future for biotron.
This is certainly the biggest option in an investment, a utility token that could grow due to its actual use, not by speculations and market bombs
newbie
Activity: 238
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These are encouraging new. The more blockchain technology becomes mainstream the better for Biotron.
It applies to almost all of the good crypto projects.
Most of people here are seeing cryptocurrencies as an investment opportunity and i think its not the actual point, its about widely used, but of course when many people come in to use it, there will be a huge amount of money too (exchange fiat to crypto).
I believe in cryptocurrency and blockchain future.

While I like your idealistic point of view, coins are hardly used as except as an investment right now. Coins like NAV who came out with NAVPay have struggled even though people still buy into it thinking it is undervalued. There are payment bottlenecks that need to be sorted first. Not too many vendors came forward to implement that system when it was readily available except for one pornstar. For her, it fits the model - anonymous and cheap. Not so for many others though. It might be a little irrelevant to Biotron here but I am just saying that any new tokens will be an investment vehicle for now and the foreseeable future.

I think you are right. If it was not an investment, nobody would participate in an ICO after all. It would be nice though if platforms with utility tokens were actually used instead of hording the tokens. That would speed up adoption.

The ability to use the token for something valuable instead of just holding it will give a better future for biotron.
member
Activity: 476
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These are encouraging new. The more blockchain technology becomes mainstream the better for Biotron.
It applies to almost all of the good crypto projects.
Most of people here are seeing cryptocurrencies as an investment opportunity and i think its not the actual point, its about widely used, but of course when many people come in to use it, there will be a huge amount of money too (exchange fiat to crypto).
I believe in cryptocurrency and blockchain future.

While I like your idealistic point of view, coins are hardly used as except as an investment right now. Coins like NAV who came out with NAVPay have struggled even though people still buy into it thinking it is undervalued. There are payment bottlenecks that need to be sorted first. Not too many vendors came forward to implement that system when it was readily available except for one pornstar. For her, it fits the model - anonymous and cheap. Not so for many others though. It might be a little irrelevant to Biotron here but I am just saying that any new tokens will be an investment vehicle for now and the foreseeable future.

I think you are right. If it was not an investment, nobody would participate in an ICO after all. It would be nice though if platforms with utility tokens were actually used instead of hording the tokens. That would speed up adoption.
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Blockchain enabled businesses are thriving in the CEE region, Biotron's CEO Pavol Magic sat with 150sec.com to reveal what is needed to drive further innovation.



i have read the article and must have to say, that he is absoluetely right that no slovak startup could reach a lot since only 5m people are living there, they have to think globally open Smiley to emerge better.

This is my favorite part in the interview and it really makes sense. Smiley

"On a somewhat separate notes, in general, what are you really looking forward to seeing develop from blockchain technology over the next five years?"

"I really look forward to the day, when people get out of this crypto madness and the blockchain technology moves forward so it can really be adapted. Blockchain can really change a lot of industries and the world itself, but it still requires a lot of work and not just speculation on stock exchanges with companies that are unable to deliver a real product."
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These are encouraging new. The more blockchain technology becomes mainstream the better for Biotron.
It applies to almost all of the good crypto projects.
Most of people here are seeing cryptocurrencies as an investment opportunity and i think its not the actual point, its about widely used, but of course when many people come in to use it, there will be a huge amount of money too (exchange fiat to crypto).
I believe in cryptocurrency and blockchain future.

While I like your idealistic point of view, coins are hardly used as except as an investment right now. Coins like NAV who came out with NAVPay have struggled even though people still buy into it thinking it is undervalued. There are payment bottlenecks that need to be sorted first. Not too many vendors came forward to implement that system when it was readily available except for one pornstar. For her, it fits the model - anonymous and cheap. Not so for many others though. It might be a little irrelevant to Biotron here but I am just saying that any new tokens will be an investment vehicle for now and the foreseeable future.
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Blockchain enabled businesses are thriving in the CEE region, Biotron's CEO Pavol Magic sat with 150sec.com to reveal what is needed to drive further innovation.



i have read the article and must have to say, that he is absoluetely right that no slovak startup could reach a lot since only 5m people are living there, they have to think globally open Smiley to emerge better.
sr. member
Activity: 658
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These are encouraging new. The more blockchain technology becomes mainstream the better for Biotron.
It applies to almost all of the good crypto projects.
Most of people here are seeing cryptocurrencies as an investment opportunity and i think its not the actual point, its about widely used, but of course when many people come in to use it, there will be a huge amount of money too (exchange fiat to crypto).
I believe in cryptocurrency and blockchain future.
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Merit: 100
Wrap up of the week's crypto and exchange news. One Euro bank developing a wallet, one country now has crypto as legal tender, infographic about source of future bitcoin attacks, and more!

An excellent news compilation! Thank you for keeping us informed about last crypto news!
Thanks for this article, it contains all relevant information - as we can see the cryptocurrency is becoming more popular, and its legitimization is normalized every day.

it will happen sooner than anyone anticipates. bitcoin has taken the world by storm in just a few years and will drag with it all altcoins
full member
Activity: 490
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Wrap up of the week's crypto and exchange news. One Euro bank developing a wallet, one country now has crypto as legal tender, infographic about source of future bitcoin attacks, and more!

An excellent news compilation! Thank you for keeping us informed about last crypto news!
Thanks for this article, it contains all relevant information - as we can see the cryptocurrency is becoming more popular, and its legitimization is normalized every day.
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ONe Social Network.
the question is, why Biotron makes a blog post about blockchain and crypto currencies? I'm not against it to be clear, it's ok, but why?
legendary
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When can we expect definite decision about tokens/coins?

Will it have own blockchain or will be a token on some blockchain. It is very important for me to make an investment decision.
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quite an interesting overview of the situation, where does this place Biotron or what did you learn from it? Smiley
member
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These are encouraging new. The more blockchain technology becomes mainstream the better for Biotron.
full member
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Wrap up of the week's crypto and exchange news. One Euro bank developing a wallet, one country now has crypto as legal tender, infographic about source of future bitcoin attacks, and more!

An excellent news compilation! Thank you for keeping us informed about last crypto news!
full member
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On your website it's written that:

"Your compensation amounts and wallet balance are always available for you to see".

Though in whitepaper it's:

"Now John has joined the Biotron nation of millions of people who make money and improve our world by voluntarily sharing their data".

Maybe I've been reading not attentive enough but I haven't found an estimate of the user's reward. Or the word "voluntarily" means that user's main goal is to "change the world", not earn money?

Estimates is quite detailed information, it will probably be announced later when the platform will be in its finishing stages.
You say that like changing the world and earning money are mutually exclusive things, you can do both at the same time.

That's exactly correct! But yes, the users will be financially compensated for their data, but unfortunately, currently we don't have enough data to provide you with estimates. These will become available as development progresses, and you can be sure that we will inform you all as soon as we will be able to.

I didn't think it would be reasonable at this stage in the process to give estimates on income.

It all depends on the demand for this data. And of course there is the demand, because that is how companies like Facebook and Google make money, selling your data. But Biotron will have to make deals with companies who want to buy data from them, and the details of that can only be decided once the product is live.
newbie
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Still no Bounty Campaign planned? Or did i miss the announcement of it Smiley I really would like to participate in it ><



As far as i know there are still no news about the bounty campaign (whether they will or will not make any campaigns)
For comparison, Datum project made bounty, as result they successfully raised 7.5$ mln, and token price is stable. I hope devs can change their mind and will create some bounty for us.
Without a bounty campaign it's hard to get traction. You are right about it. At least they should do an airdrop.
But an airdrop >10$, less is not attractive today.  Smiley
It depends. There still are people who need money or are just greedy 

I guess an airdrop or bounty campaign or an advertising would spread the news about the project. Imho.

Yeah, they should definitely set up a bounty thread. It would be very healthy for the project

Tbh yes, bounty will help a project to spread it worldwide. But each ICO has their own decision regarding bounty.
We would love to stave off all of your questions regarding the possible bounties program, but right now we have nothing to share. As soon as a decision is made, we'll update you all right away.
Thanks for this statement. Just keep in mind that a bounty campain is a powerful marketing tool if something needs to be shared. Of cause it have to be the right time to start it.
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I have a question. The roadmap mentions both "Public ITE & Proof of concept" for march 2018. Will the proof of concept be released before the public ITE? So people can base their decision to invest  on more then just the whitepaper and current information at hand.
In regards to the development stages, as we mention in our whitepaper, the data we acquire will allow us to provide actionable insight many industries and use cases. However, to start off, we needed to agree on the first thing - location intelligence.
The whole infrastructure includes – blockchain, core cloud components (data processing), data analytics and the presentation layer for both users and customers.

We are in the stage of the internal Prototype - Phase 1. In this first phase we are able to store and process licensed 3rd party data in near-real time and create user profiles. These is used to create POI visits & characteristics, as well as user profiles, audience segments, and custom segments. Also we are able to target ad campaigns based on these user profiles. Custom reports are prepared. We are already validating product with real customers.

In later stages, we will be able to deliver user profiles to customers via API and web app, split revenue among users (wallet), provide applications for users to collect data directly from them (data collection app), and of course allow them to cash out their earnings (full mobile app).

This is how we are going to build it from ground up and start earning money from day 1. Our team already has extensive experience and network in this field, which will make things a lot easier. Full product roll out will be within one year from the ITE.

Full product (I mean no beta, but actual final realease) in one year is quite ambitiuos, ot by full product you mean beta? I prefer a slower development but a bugless product to be honest
Frankly speaking, full product is an ultimate and finished one, and beta is just beta - minor preparation to or repetition of it
Their roadmap began in July 2017, so in fact it will be more than 1 year. I like when the team puts real feasible tasks, and when it does not take many time.
The most important thing is that they started investing their own money into this project
Well we couldn't ask you to just put faith in our project without demonstrating that we are confident in it too. We have to lead by example after all.

That's a good attitude. Recently you can see a lot of projects who don't even try to start before they not got a shitlot of money through an ICO.

It certainly shows the commitment to your project and to see that you believe in it so strongly, it will attract more investors who are searching for projects with a certain spirit. Its a huge plus if team is seen as highly motivated.
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I have a question. The roadmap mentions both "Public ITE & Proof of concept" for march 2018. Will the proof of concept be released before the public ITE? So people can base their decision to invest  on more then just the whitepaper and current information at hand.
In regards to the development stages, as we mention in our whitepaper, the data we acquire will allow us to provide actionable insight many industries and use cases. However, to start off, we needed to agree on the first thing - location intelligence.
The whole infrastructure includes – blockchain, core cloud components (data processing), data analytics and the presentation layer for both users and customers.

We are in the stage of the internal Prototype - Phase 1. In this first phase we are able to store and process licensed 3rd party data in near-real time and create user profiles. These is used to create POI visits & characteristics, as well as user profiles, audience segments, and custom segments. Also we are able to target ad campaigns based on these user profiles. Custom reports are prepared. We are already validating product with real customers.

In later stages, we will be able to deliver user profiles to customers via API and web app, split revenue among users (wallet), provide applications for users to collect data directly from them (data collection app), and of course allow them to cash out their earnings (full mobile app).

This is how we are going to build it from ground up and start earning money from day 1. Our team already has extensive experience and network in this field, which will make things a lot easier. Full product roll out will be within one year from the ITE.

Full product (I mean no beta, but actual final realease) in one year is quite ambitiuos, ot by full product you mean beta? I prefer a slower development but a bugless product to be honest
Frankly speaking, full product is an ultimate and finished one, and beta is just beta - minor preparation to or repetition of it
Their roadmap began in July 2017, so in fact it will be more than 1 year. I like when the team puts real feasible tasks, and when it does not take many time.
The most important thing is that they started investing their own money into this project
Well we couldn't ask you to just put faith in our project without demonstrating that we are confident in it too. We have to lead by example after all.

That's a good attitude. Recently you can see a lot of projects who don't even try to start before they not got a shitlot of money through an ICO.
member
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On your website it's written that:

"Your compensation amounts and wallet balance are always available for you to see".

Though in whitepaper it's:

"Now John has joined the Biotron nation of millions of people who make money and improve our world by voluntarily sharing their data".

Maybe I've been reading not attentive enough but I haven't found an estimate of the user's reward. Or the word "voluntarily" means that user's main goal is to "change the world", not earn money?

Estimates is quite detailed information, it will probably be announced later when the platform will be in its finishing stages.
You say that like changing the world and earning money are mutually exclusive things, you can do both at the same time.

That's exactly correct! But yes, the users will be financially compensated for their data, but unfortunately, currently we don't have enough data to provide you with estimates. These will become available as development progresses, and you can be sure that we will inform you all as soon as we will be able to.

I didn't think it would be reasonable at this stage in the process to give estimates on income.
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