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Topic: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees - page 411. (Read 704412 times)

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but bcash no can do cross chain atomic swaps. its weaker than?
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and thats another thing. trying to force people not to call a thing a thing reeks of insecurity. buttcoin, bitcorn, honey badger couldnt give a toss. but you guys get all tarded out. its sad
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Of course its totally centralized and owned by Bitmain, and the fact that more or less reasonable people like jbear refuse to acknowledge it, just makes it seem all the more scammy.
/end bcash rant
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In my opinion, mods should ban anyone who uses "bcash" in here because it is almost like fraud, deceiving and misleading the users by not using "Bitcoin Cash". Very disrespectful, low class and trashy to use "bcash", but hey, that's just me.

Ps. "Class" has nothing to do with wealth. A rich person can be low class and a poor person can be high class. It is a state of mind.


Roger Ver is a truly cancerous and pathetic baboon. He defends his lack of knowledge and integrity with "What's your yearly revenue? Less than $1m?". Roll Eyes This shitcoin is actually called Bcash. Calling it anyone else is a fraud, not the reverse.

Right why don't the Bcash people just build superior technology quietly but instead bash the real Bitcoin 24 hours a day?
Here's why: They don't have a single skilled engineering that wants to work on btrash.

I know and that is why I made my comment Wink Man it was a great laugh to see how Roger felt the need to tell the world for how long he has been a millionaire. To anyone supporting BCash: the first thing I would try to do is to get rid of Roger Ver if you want BCash gain some credibility Cheesy

I could have liked bcash. I actually blame all the shitty people in it for putting me off. I might revise this if it drops low enough.
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I know and that is why I made my comment Wink Man it was a great laugh to see how Roger felt the need to tell the world for how long he has been a millionaire. To anyone supporting BCash: the first thing I would try to do is to get rid of Roger Ver if you want BCash gain some credibility Cheesy

did bitcoin try to get rid off him for its first few yrs?
so if he has $ should the usa get rid off him..?

What if he has even more btc now than he did before Bitcoin cash was born...?

tbh im surprised he gives interviews to random guys that clearly dont understand how crypto works...
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In my opinion, mods should ban anyone who uses "bcash" in here because it is almost like fraud, deceiving and misleading the users by not using "Bitcoin Cash". Very disrespectful, low class and trashy to use "bcash", but hey, that's just me.

Ps. "Class" has nothing to do with wealth. A rich person can be low class and a poor person can be high class. It is a state of mind.


Roger Ver is a truly cancerous and pathetic baboon. He defends his lack of knowledge and integrity with "What's your yearly revenue? Less than $1m?". Roll Eyes This shitcoin is actually called Bcash. Calling it anyone else is a fraud, not the reverse.

Right why don't the Bcash people just build superior technology quietly but instead bash the real Bitcoin 24 hours a day?
Here's why: They don't have a single skilled engineering that wants to work on btrash.

I know and that is why I made my comment Wink Man it was a great laugh to see how Roger felt the need to tell the world for how long he has been a millionaire. To anyone supporting BCash: the first thing I would try to do is to get rid of Roger Ver if you want BCash gain some credibility Cheesy
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Oh yeah you can run one right NOW on testnet you fucking retarded puke of vaginal trash.
It's how professional and secure software is built, with proper fucking testing, not coups over arbitrary block limits.

Look up there... no! behind you!

Oh well, nevermind. It flew right over your head. The point.

The point is, that so far, LN is useless as a form of money transfer. As money is not transferred on the testnet. "you fucking retarded puke of vaginal trash" (haha - not my argument, but it is a lovely turn of phrase, innit?)

More importantly, LN will remain useless as long as a permissionless, decentralized, anonymous, pathfinding algorithm does not yet exist. Which it does not. When will the breakthrough happen? Hmm?
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Bitcoin Cash  is gearing up for..... Cool Tongue Kiss
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Now, now...Bitcoin now passed the ten thousand dollars mark. What do you think would be the consequence of this for Bitcoin cash, being the closest competitor of Bitcoin? Surely there must be grandiose plans for this coin to make the value more higher.

it's not the closest competitor. it's supposed to be the replacement. some people would say ethereum is the closest competitor but even the ethereum devs would tell you that they're not in competition. they're different things with different purposes.

let's see what happens but beyond pump and dumps i think this coin's chance has passed. it's always gonna be around and there'll be many a spike but it's not bitcoin.
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They must be paid shills, to spend so much time on a coins thread they dont even like lol
or they are just dumb fks hahaha

stupid segwetters, if you are trolling for free, then you are dumb, contact blockstream, they will pay you  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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*Brute force will solve any Bitcoin problem*
Now, now...Bitcoin now passed the ten thousand dollars mark. What do you think would be the consequence of this for Bitcoin cash, being the closest competitor of Bitcoin? Surely there must be grandiose plans for this coin to make the value more higher.

Bcash will be used by bee keepers throughout the world..huge demand ..widespread adoption Wink  lol
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Now, now...Bitcoin now passed the ten thousand dollars mark. What do you think would be the consequence of this for Bitcoin cash, being the closest competitor of Bitcoin? Surely there must be grandiose plans for this coin to make the value more higher.
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Hey "Snowflake" Ver........Bcash..BTrash.. Tongue oh look 10.2k BTC!
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how is a block size change and a different adjustment algo superior code? its the same code. i think you mean to say same code but superior parameter change ov course in your opinion else you are stating it as fact when of course you arent the authority to state such as truth

Superior Performance and Superior Protection from a death spiral =  Superior CODE !

I state Logic , when if you can reason logically , you see it as factual and truthful because you can see it also.


╥Aztek


By the way the addition of segshit into core coin , with its anyone can send address, is definitely INFERIOR to the original design.

 
incorrect. you stated superior code this is a statement made of fact.

saying the current difficulty adjustment algo allows x which i believe means y. this is a statement of logic without making it sound like you state fact.

you should start prefacing you comments with i believe. without that you are indeed stating it as fact when its not. its not someone taking it as factual. if you structure your sentences as stating fact then thats what it is. its not others taking it the wrong way. if you think that to be the case then you are indeed saying how the english language functions in sentences and use is wrong. this isnt the case at all.

I doubt it's even worth discussing with Aztek. Anyone who fails to understand that on-chain scalability solutions are short-term and no real improvement to the code is completely blind. I'd like to point to Antonopoulos here who correctly says that any solution improving scalability linearly is no solution to crypto's real problems. We need exponential scalability and increasing the block size is no such solution.

So you literally say Bill Gates was right: stay on 640K - or eMail you prefer to stay at max 1MB ?

This is exactly a 'restricted view by day = today" - this is not Bitcoin's idea.

Bitcoin is open to all scaling - it's an open system to all competitive solutions and such simply cannot include any limitations.

Limitations come into by physical and economical boundaries by default - and scaling boundaries  cannot be  part of any base protocol.

So relax and watch what dimensions of scaling are out there....
 

So you literally say that any scaling solution should be exploited? Do you know why cars don't drive 300 Mph? Because they couldn't? Or because there comes a massive security risk with that? What do you think? Will they never go that fast? Yes they will, once it's certain that anyone's security doesn't suffer from scaling to higher potential speed.
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1.  G.Maxwell no matter what you think of his weight , is a proven Liar
2.  Any company (Banking Cartels thru AXA) that own blockstream can force a patent suit and destroy any other coin that uses segshit.

Patents are not cheap , G.Maxwell claiming it will never be used, well you are a fool if you believe him.
So the bitcoin gold users expect a lawsuit to cease and desist in ~2 years.  Wink

Used Segshit and risk being devastated in a legal battle or just let any exchange do your offchain processing with none of LN/segshit restrictions or limitations.

Bitcoin Cash can use exchanges to process their offchain transactions faster & cheaper & without segshit.


╥Aztek

Anyone is fee to use segwit code the same as anyone is fee to use the bitcoin code

A LN fund cannot be seized easily and if it could it's anonymous to an extent a LN node has no idea where the money is going or coming from just its last/next hop but has no idea is the last/next hop was the start or endpoint

And you think using a exchange is more secure a central place somewhere that has to do NYC verification's and know's exactly who it belongs to what bitcoin address address  and home address with everything traceable on chain yea right now you're dreaming





LN /Segwit is designed to allow confiscation of the Funds.
https://falkvinge.net/2017/05/01/blockstream-patents-segwit-makes-pieces-fall-place/


Exchanges will not require Time Locks, and any exchanges located outside of New York State can ignore any stupid laws they make up.
An offshore exchange , is way safer than a LN HUB, which you won't even directly choose, you just paid a fee and it picks it's own path of hubs.

So yes, Exchanges are all safer than LN/segshit will be.
LN Hubs will be required to report all of their transactions to any government they reside or do business in since all of their transactions will cross country/state lines.
Exchanges can be under just 1 country laws as their exchange resides within a single country and those trades never leave than country.
Every LN Hub will be responsible in every country they transmit too and from, since they are basically using their own IOUs system like a bank note.
KYC Laws will be enforced on all LN Hubs (confiscation is possible with LN), which was one of the design reasons for them to start with.



╥Aztek
Anyone with some Bitcoins can run a LN hub you dumb fucking retard. It will make big blockers look like dinosaurs of a forgotten past.

You're talking to a wall she says you need millions and a bank licence

LN is true peer to peer money I can open a channel with you and we can transact together without anyone ever knowing or being able to touch it

Oh you wanna sent my friend some money but don't have a link here go through mine

You can probably expect LN first half of 2018 its almost ready I have used it a few times now on testnet already and there are some coins that claim they will have LN before the end of the year



Hmmm tek I think you're in the wrong place to pump this Lightning vaporware, and you'd better wait "18 more months" 3 more times and LOL before you get too excited...

Even the hardKore trolls don't talk too much about Lightning anymore. Face it, why build "crap on top of crap", rather than just use another coin?
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^the averaging down dance  Grin  do it while you can  Wink
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BCH is diving, not sure if it's a buy or wait for more drop. Not much cash in exchange now anyway. Tongue

It will dive faster if roger ever decides bcash is not going to take the #1 spot and sells it all for his next "project" and you will all be the last to know about it behind jihan and fakesatoshi etc they will all get first prime picking before it dumps real hard

Check this: https://fork.lol/pow/hashrate , 2017-11-12... BTC almost died that night. I thinkk they, whoever they are, the miners or whatever, stopped it on purpose. It was a show of force. I think we will see such night again but when that night comes, the hash rate will not come back to BTC and BTC will die. Remember unconfirmed transactions for BTC Over 200K or something.

A few more hours, if the exchanges hadn't crashed or disconnected or whatever was going on, BTC would have died.

I think, BTC has already lost the war. This is just good time for people to move away from BTC into BCH before it's too late.

All of this, of course, taken stright out of my own a** because I lost my crystal ball long long long time ago. Undecided

...but as they say, better be safe than sorry. Smiley

That was due to a massive amount of manipulation due to the EDA this has now been forked off which is good for both coins but has also removed any chance of BCH taking a huge share of hashing power ever again because to be able to take 60% of power you would need to increase the value of BCH by 400%

What makes you think you have to increase the value to incentivize the miners? Don't you think they're smart enough to know that if they collude to move hashing over to BCH that the value of BTC will drop and the value of BCH will rise? Don't let that keep you up late into the night...

He's right, if BTC hashrate had dropped a few more exahashes and the mempool stayed full, BTC would've failed slowly over the course of a month and BCH would've assumed pole position.

Not that any of us wants this - BTC is still a great coin despite all of Blockstream's efforts to make it useless without Lightning. But when somebody is walking around with an albatross around their neck they can only hold on for so long. Look at the growth in alts right now - there is money that is dying to get into the crypto space and BTC simply can't absorb it.



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haha segwetters, told you  around $8k btc was coming  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Now watch BCH FLY  Cool

You mean that ALL crypto flash crash that lasted under an hour then went straight back up over $10k while Bcash is still trying to recover
that wasnt a flash crash, it was obvious it was gonna happen to btc.....JENGAAAA LOL
and once it jengad lols then $$ will be coming to....BCH
BCH is going for an ATH ....hope your in  (you prob are  Kiss
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haha segwetters, told you  around $8k btc was coming  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Now watch BCH FLY  Cool

You mean that ALL crypto flash crash that lasted under an hour then went straight back up over $10k while Bcash is still trying to recover
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