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^this next fork is dangerous for btc...if things dont go well....
bch will be the first/popular coin for hedging

btw we still going up guys  Smiley


Not really I still see this as being dead on day 1

Ive not looked once into how the mining will work i'm guessing there will be no contingency plan for if there is no miner support from day 1 so unless its able to be dual mined with the core chain then I can't see it even getting started without a huge starting value

Like I said i've not looked and don't care enough to look at how mining is going to work so what I just said could be a non issue
tbh, niether have i, i dont care about segwit1 , so def wont care about seg2 lol
its just from what i hear now and again, that no replay protection is bad and i got no idea who or why they are doing this...maybe they want to mess up btc txs.

Its not that no replay protection is bad for either coin it does not impact the performance of either in any way the only issue is that if the S2X chain does take off and gain value then anyone pre fork can stand to loose money by sending both coins instead of just the one intended.

If the S2x chain just does a straight fork with no adjustment to the difficulty and there is no code implemented to make a rapid change to this then the S2x chain will need to gain a huge value at least rivalling the core chain just to attract miners in order survive unless it can be dual mined
 
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^this next fork is dangerous for btc...if things dont go well....
bch will be the first/popular coin for hedging

btw we still going up guys  Smiley


Not really I still see this as being dead on day 1

Ive not looked once into how the mining will work i'm guessing there will be no contingency plan for if there is no miner support from day 1 so unless its able to be dual mined with the core chain then I can't see it even getting started without a huge starting value

Like I said i've not looked and don't care enough to look at how mining is going to work so what I just said could be a non issue
tbh, niether have i, i dont care about segwit1 , so def wont care about seg2 lol
its just from what i hear now and again, that no replay protection is bad and i got no idea who or why they are doing this...maybe they want to mess up btc txs.

Segwit2x doesn't want a schism. They want a total takeover. Core doesn't want to to concede either.
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^this next fork is dangerous for btc...if things dont go well....
bch will be the first/popular coin for hedging

btw we still going up guys  Smiley


Not really I still see this as being dead on day 1

Ive not looked once into how the mining will work i'm guessing there will be no contingency plan for if there is no miner support from day 1 so unless its able to be dual mined with the core chain then I can't see it even getting started without a huge starting value

Like I said i've not looked and don't care enough to look at how mining is going to work so what I just said could be a non issue
tbh, niether have i, i dont care about segwit1 , so def wont care about seg2 lol
its just from what i hear now and again, that no replay protection is bad and i got no idea who or why they are doing this...maybe they want to mess up btc txs.
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^

Do we know the exact date of this fork? I will use Electrum, should work fine, yes?

Block 494,784 for hard fork . Should be late November. No exact date since it depends on how fast the blocks generate. November 23rdish, maybe?
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^this next fork is dangerous for btc...if things dont go well....
bch will be the first/popular coin for hedging

btw we still going up guys  Smiley


Not really I still see this as being dead on day 1

Ive not looked once into how the mining will work i'm guessing there will be no contingency plan for if there is no miner support from day 1 so unless its able to be dual mined with the core chain then I can't see it even getting started without a huge starting value

Like I said i've not looked and don't care enough to look at how mining is going to work so what I just said could be a non issue
legendary
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^this next fork is dangerous for btc...if things dont go well....
bch will be the first/popular coin for hedging

btw we still going up guys  Smiley
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Anyone got news about bitcoin hard fork in November, confirmation, another Bitcoin???
Much appreciated

It has all the makings of a perfect shit storm. Very weak replay protection implemented on both sides. If you thought claiming your bitcoin cash was complicated, if two distinct chains are established between Core and segwit2x, it's going to be real difficult to avoid replay unless you don't move coins at all.

Just to add to this if you do try to split ONLY move to another wallet you have the keys for DO NOT try to make your first transaction on ANY chain to an exchange or similar

So safest best is to wait maybe a few days-week after the hardfork for things to settle, and then move your coin to either an exchange or another bitcoin wallet???
Much appreciated again.

I would get a Trezor and move all of your BTC to those private keys and wait for Slush to come up with an easy solution. (Just a personal preference though.)

I second that get a trezor its the best HW wallet around IMHO (There is a link in my signature if you want to buy one from amazon)

And no you should move them to another address/wallet that you own first before moving to an exchange that way if the other chain does get replayed you will still have both coins

Once both chains are successfully confirmed as being on different addresses then you may transfer to an exchange if you want to sell
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Anyone got news about bitcoin hard fork in November, confirmation, another Bitcoin???
Much appreciated

It has all the makings of a perfect shit storm. Very weak replay protection implemented on both sides. If you thought claiming your bitcoin cash was complicated, if two distinct chains are established between Core and segwit2x, it's going to be real difficult to avoid replay unless you don't move coins at all.

Just to add to this if you do try to split ONLY move to another wallet you have the keys for DO NOT try to make your first transaction on ANY chain to an exchange or similar

So safest best is to wait maybe a few days-week after the hardfork for things to settle, and then move your coin to either an exchange or another bitcoin wallet???
Much appreciated again.

I would get a Trezor and move all of your BTC to those private keys and wait for Slush to come up with an easy solution. (Just a personal preference though.)
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Anyone got news about bitcoin hard fork in November, confirmation, another Bitcoin???
Much appreciated

It has all the makings of a perfect shit storm. Very weak replay protection implemented on both sides. If you thought claiming your bitcoin cash was complicated, if two distinct chains are established between Core and segwit2x, it's going to be real difficult to avoid replay unless you don't move coins at all.

Just to add to this if you do try to split ONLY move to another wallet you have the keys for DO NOT try to make your first transaction on ANY chain to an exchange or similar

So safest best is to wait maybe a few days-week after the hardfork for things to settle, and then move your coin to either an exchange or another bitcoin wallet???
Much appreciated again.
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Wow new website! ---->>>> https://www.bitcoincash.org

 Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool to the moon!
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I have BCH on my Poloniex account, but they have frozen it for whatever reason, but I do now know why.

Anyone knows what to do?

Poloniex does not answer to my tickets for 2 weeks now.
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that something off is not you dumb ass moron, that is not you fucking "off"

EDIT 1: just stfu or fuck off lol
EDIT 2: you banks fan boy
EDIT 3: you motherfucker you how much money did you lose with your technical analysis stupido, don't be ashamed to tell others what a failed trader you trully are.
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that something off is not you dumb ass mron, that is not you fucking "off"
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True, but I'm done with you guys, have fun, and happy trading

You keep saying that over and over but still keep coming back a few days or a week or so later
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True, but I'm done with you guys, have fun, and happy trading
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I'm not one of those "bank haters" at all.
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What am I reading on this thread? Geeez, Tek really likes banks, LMFAO, he's not one quote : '"of those banks haters" hahahaha unquote

I don't like banks read again its fne that said that
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What am I reading on this thread? Geeez, Tek really likes banks, LMFAO, he's not one quote : '"of those banks haters" hahahaha unquote
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...Granted it's not quite as decentralised...

Yes I know but we already have regular banks for such fast transactions who are much more stable, much trustworthy and stuff don't disappear or lose value over night. Cheesy

Bitcoin was supposed to be like cash but in electronic form. Cash is not centralized.

It is not even mostly about anonymity but convenient of removing borders and making the world smaller, bringing all people closer to each other instead of middle men taking a cut out of everything.

You are missing the entire point of "original" Bitcoin and that is why the current Bitcoin is not "true" Bitcoin.

Bitcoin Cash (BCH) is the true Bitcoin. Slow as it may but it is keeping the original "cash" idea of the Bitcoin.

You start putting middle men in this thing, it is no longer Bitcoin and we already have regular banks as middle men.

Edit: Of course, it does not mean "BCH" will "win" in the end. Not always, the better man wins. Smiley

Edit 2: and I don't care what others say, I'm not one of those "bank haters" at all. I really like banks. I have everything digital in bank and all bills automated. No papers, no nothing. I don't even have to login to my bank! Many good banks out there who provide excellent service. People hate banks for debts and such but no one forced them to take the debt! Banks are safe and in Europe, we even have guarantee of our deposits if a bank fails. No such thing could be said about Bitcoins or any other of these digital "currencies"... so no, I don't hate banks, I like banks. They have oversight from governments and they are safe! That is why they are called "Banks" and not "Exchange". My two cents.

Banks are convenient but only if you trade in your own country and yes in come counties banks are not that bad and offer some protection like here in the UK but when I have to receive checks from the likes of Amazon (That's all they offer unless your in
a the US) for affiliate payments etc it's slow and expensive.

I have my payout limit set high at £10000 and just cashout on demand by lowering it because these so called banks charge me around £50 (that's about $70USD) just to cash it and then I have to wait 2-3 weeks before I can withdraw or spend it.

And also as a seller I can have anyone chargeback up to 6 months in the future and then no there is no protection it's gone

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https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/911222055915229184

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Bitcoin's utility plus its scarcity ultimately determines the price. If you damage bitcoin's usefulness in commerce, you damage its price.

Yes, well, dear Roger Ver, I waited more than 12 hours for confirmations. Lost money on it.

Utility you say?

I like BCH but that stuff needs to get fixed fast!

Edit: Odd, no tweets from Jihan in a long time now, https://twitter.com/JihanWu.

The thing is in commerce a side chain such as lightning is superior fast, instant (no waiting for miners or blocks) and almost if not free.

Granted it's not quite as decentralised as on chain where you have everything stored but a side chain like lightning is not designed to store your mass wealth it's just a bit of spending money like your everyday bank account and onchain is your savings account

Now you may get some that say it's not as anonymous etc but what does it matter when you are buying things your going to give the merchant your full name and address anyway for delivery.

LN behaves in a similar fashion to tor where you broadcast your transaction and it just jumps from node to node and finds its way to its destination via the cheapest route and all the nodes know is where the next hop is they do not know the sender or recipient

It's things like this that will make bitcoin far superior in commerce

Now let all the haters reply with the FUD
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