[ANN] Bitfury ASIC sales in EU and Europe - page 2.

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Quote from: Unacceptable on January 17, 2016, 05:02:22 AM

Quote from: punin on January 17, 2016, 03:49:55 AM

Quote from: dogie on January 16, 2016, 11:55:39 PM

Quote from: rupy on January 16, 2016, 10:56:23 PM

Neat! Hoping for passive cooling.

btw, these are 30.000x more efficient than my zTex x1.15 in 4 years. Not bad "end of moores law".

Shouldn't that be ~750x more efficient? Also a bit fairer to compare it to gen 1 Avalons, so ~140x more efficient.

Ah! The good old Ztex x1.15 boards hashed @ ~200MHash/s while consuming ~10W. Did you know that Bitfury actually made a bitstream for that same FPGA that run @300Mhash/s?

So those Ztex figures would be ~50J/GH vs ~0.05J/GH so ~1000 times. We can actually achieve 0.0556J/GH and I have a video that I'm editing right now 11km over Siberia where you will be able to see it.

Stay tuned.

I remember that,but didn't you guys charge for the 300Mhash wares Huh

We actually released the bitstream as open source.

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Quote from: el_rlee on January 17, 2016, 07:11:29 AM

Quote from: Unacceptable on January 17, 2016, 05:02:22 AM

I remember that,but didn't you guys charge for the 300Mhash wares Huh

Could that be http://www.tricone-mining.com/ you remember? Good 'ol times Grin

Ahhh, that one Cheesy

Didn't someone also sell a firmware for an FPGA miner,was it for the cairnsmore or something,god it was sooo long ago Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Unacceptable on January 17, 2016, 05:02:22 AM

I remember that,but didn't you guys charge for the 300Mhash wares Huh

Could that be http://www.tricone-mining.com/ you remember? Good 'ol times Grin

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zTex 1GH / 40W
BF16 50GH / 0.06W?

40 / 0.06 = 666 ~~(how many BF16 for 40W)~~
~~666 * 50 = 33300 (each BF16 gives 50GH)~~

Then rounded down for at the wall... what's wrong?

Edit: You're right, that's completely wrong, 0.06 is per GH not per BF16 so ~666 is right... sorry! Sad

Still impressive! Wink

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Quote from: punin on January 17, 2016, 03:49:55 AM

Quote from: dogie on January 16, 2016, 11:55:39 PM

Quote from: rupy on January 16, 2016, 10:56:23 PM

Neat! Hoping for passive cooling.

btw, these are 30.000x more efficient than my zTex x1.15 in 4 years. Not bad "end of moores law".

Shouldn't that be ~750x more efficient? Also a bit fairer to compare it to gen 1 Avalons, so ~140x more efficient.

Ah! The good old Ztex x1.15 boards hashed @ ~200MHash/s while consuming ~10W. Did you know that Bitfury actually made a bitstream for that same FPGA that run @300Mhash/s?

So those Ztex figures would be ~50J/GH vs ~0.05J/GH so ~1000 times. We can actually achieve 0.0556J/GH and I have a video that I'm editing right now 11km over Siberia where you will be able to see it.

Stay tuned.

I remember that,but didn't you guys charge for the 300Mhash wares Huh

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Quote from: dogie on January 16, 2016, 11:55:39 PM

Quote from: rupy on January 16, 2016, 10:56:23 PM

Neat! Hoping for passive cooling.

btw, these are 30.000x more efficient than my zTex x1.15 in 4 years. Not bad "end of moores law".

Shouldn't that be ~750x more efficient? Also a bit fairer to compare it to gen 1 Avalons, so ~140x more efficient.

Ah! The good old Ztex x1.15 boards hashed @ ~200MHash/s while consuming ~10W. Did you know that Bitfury actually made a bitstream for that same FPGA that run @300Mhash/s?

So those Ztex figures would be ~50J/GH vs ~0.05J/GH so ~1000 times. We can actually achieve 0.0556J/GH and I have a video that I'm editing right now 11km over Siberia where you will be able to see it.

Stay tuned.

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Quote from: rupy on January 16, 2016, 10:56:23 PM

Neat! Hoping for passive cooling.

btw, these are 30.000x more efficient than my zTex x1.15 in 4 years. Not bad "end of moores law".

Shouldn't that be ~750x more efficient? Also a bit fairer to compare it to gen 1 Avalons, so ~140x more efficient.

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Neat! Hoping for passive cooling.

btw, these are ~~30.000x~~ 666x more efficient than my zTex x1.15 in 4 years. Not bad "end of moores law".

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Quote from: punin on January 16, 2016, 12:48:02 PM

IT'S ALIVE Grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zPpj1JYw38

Quote from: dogie on January 16, 2016, 02:19:19 PM

For those on mobile:
Unheatsinked
(cold)
379mV
37GH
0.062 J/GH

379mV
39GH
0.063 J/GH

390mV
47GH
0.067 J/GH

394mV
52GH
0.070 J/GH

Higher power tests with heatsink uploaded later.

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IT'S ALIVE Grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zPpj1JYw38

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Quote from: Unacceptable on January 07, 2016, 10:29:40 PM

Quote from: punin on January 07, 2016, 05:37:39 PM

Quote from: Unacceptable on January 06, 2016, 08:09:00 AM

Quote from: sebdude420 on January 06, 2016, 07:40:18 AM

So how we get in on the bitfury action

"

When they are ready to sell em.....probably mid to late 2016 (or even later).After they run em & squeeze out as much BTC as possible from em,then you can buy em Wink

Naah, april unless clock buffers™. Wink

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good ol BFL reference there!!!!! Cheesy

You win the internet for the day!!!!! Grin

Good one indeed Cheesy

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Quote from: punin on January 07, 2016, 05:37:39 PM

Quote from: Unacceptable on January 06, 2016, 08:09:00 AM

Quote from: sebdude420 on January 06, 2016, 07:40:18 AM

So how we get in on the bitfury action

"

When they are ready to sell em.....probably mid to late 2016 (or even later).After they run em & squeeze out as much BTC as possible from em,then you can buy em Wink

Naah, april unless clock buffers™. Wink

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good ol BFL reference there!!!!! Cheesy

You win the internet for the day!!!!! Grin

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Quote from: Unacceptable on January 06, 2016, 08:09:00 AM

Quote from: sebdude420 on January 06, 2016, 07:40:18 AM

So how we get in on the bitfury action

"

When they are ready to sell em.....probably mid to late 2016 (or even later).After they run em & squeeze out as much BTC as possible from em,then you can buy em Wink

Naah, april unless clock buffers™. Wink

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Quote from: sebdude420 on January 06, 2016, 07:40:18 AM

So how we get in on the bitfury action

"

When they are ready to sell em.....probably mid to late 2016 (or even later).After they run em & squeeze out as much BTC as possible from em,then you can buy em Wink

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So how we get in on the bitfury action

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rupy

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Yes, us BFL loosers are atleast spoiled with BFG!

What about 21co, can you mine on any pool with those?

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Quote from: kano on December 28, 2015, 05:55:27 AM

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Quote from: KNK on December 22, 2015, 05:08:12 AM

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Chip delivers a minimum of 100 gigahash per second of computing power. On average, the BitFury 16nm ASIC can compute in the range of as high as 140 gigahash per second using air cooling, and up to 184 gigahash per second using immersion cooling

so one h-card will be 10/14/16 x 100 ghs = 1/1.4/1.6THs and 16 of these on a m-board will be 16/22.4/25,6THs?

@ 0.06 J/GH 25.6TH on an MBoard would be 1.5kW. Although possible, I think it's unlikely.

m-boards originally had issues when pushed past 600W, but that was largely due to there only being 2xPCIe connections (and 300W/each is too much for most wirings). There is/was an extra pair of screw terminals though, which could likely handle 600W+ themselves.

If you used all the connections available, you could likely achieve up to 900-1200W, which require active cooling and likely heatsinks.

Don't forget you'd be stuck with their software also which, to be blunt, is terrible.

Look at the number of orphans they pump out at the moment - and how on occasion they put out blocks that are well over 10s late on the network.
I'd not be surprised if they put them out much later and no one sees them.
Had one on my pool the other week (older bitfury with their software) that sent a stale block to the pool 69 seconds after the block change ...

So using their setup could be anywhere as high as 10% wasted ... i.e. could be as low as 90% of any specs quoted.
If I found any new miners on my pool with their hardware, I'd close the account - it's pretty much the equivalent of block withholding using a miner that is known to do this.

yeah, the GUI was pretty lacking, and often the start/stop buttons had no effect or could take anything from 5-30seconds to complete thier action. The actual mining hardware though was quite solid.

it would be an easy fix though (i think/hope) and should be done, especially if the stale rate is as high as you are saying

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Anyhow, winter of 2016/17 will be when we mine with 16nm which is the last order of magnitude performance increase.

I mine for heat, so for me it's a no brainer.

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Most likely(based on the previous 2013 bit fury kit), 2015 bitfury kit would be around 25TH at a price of 7btc ± 1btc.
+ It looks like they will only start selling their hardware, when they finish deploying maximum amount of PH they can.

So we are looking at april-may 2016, right before the diff.change.

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Quote from: Mitak on December 28, 2015, 06:25:21 AM

Indeed too blunt .
I do believe they have the resources to upgrade SW

It's been like that for years ...

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