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BC doesnt have, nor has it had in the latest weeks, the volume to support your insane claim of a 15m BC dump. There was big volume today but still not enough to support your claim. Im not saying someone isnt dumping, but its nowhere near 25% of all BC. Post logs, provide some tangible proof. I used to think you were a paid troll, but after you accidentally answered my post thinking you were on your Iconic account, i know youre just IE's troll shill acct. still fun to annoy the shit out of you tho

Those are my estimations of what The Doge, StGNU and Rat4 still have after they have dumped more than 15 million. I may be off by quite a few million on the upside, mind you.

I understand your position and, questionable as it may have been, the "distribution", so to speak would have been "common behavior". Very questionable but standard in the industry, so to speak?

The problem here are the business on the side  --i.e: the multipool than, as you know, is a personal, independent business, for the ONLY purpose of profit -of course- of TheDOGE and StGNU. That being the case, the business of BC should be up for grabs, not given by decree to this guys, without any warranties and collecting a % which is above the goiing rates in the industry, let alone taking into consideration the "exclusivity".

If that wasn't enough, here comes the BIG problem: La Mano Nera, The Black Hand. Mind you, contracts drawn and papers signed by Morituri13's own recognaisance, public one. The manipulate from the inside. They donate to the Multipool -and the Foundation- and they have so much access to inside info that, actually, they are the ones that approve or disapprove whatever is to be done in BC. Get it now? They don't just own and control tens of millions of coins, they have this as a going business. When the two Joe Sixpacks and Rat4 finish their dumping, the Black Hand will still be buying and selling at points of their choosing and with 100% manipulation, not just of the price through their usual P&Ds but through ALL THE OTHER ACTIVITIES of the coin and it's foundation. Corrupt to the core, alright? No way for the investors, traders or enthusiasts to win. The Black Hand will win. Always And kill the coin, while doing so.

To be perfectly clear, if they would sell -the devs- all their coins and leave, BC had a chance. As it is, none whatsoever.

It's a hobby and an interest, will never convert my alts to fiat and now just collecting POS coins.
Lost more previous investment to  ltct, btct, havelock but all funds originated from mining on 1 PC and 1 Jala (ordered jan2013) from mid 2013.
So I already knew I had missed the boat. (Regarding NXT have 70 in an address same again on exchange , but never run the server. Not for me.)

Thank you again for your bluntness and honesty.

(dreamcoin or libertycoin)

You are very welcome.

Now, you can try to fool yourself as much as you want and, by all means, do with your investment whatever you deem is more convenient for you and your purposes, but the fortunate fact that you bought cheap in no way lessens the blow you are suffering -along with the rest of holders of the coin. If anything it makes it even more painful. Because you could -and should- have cashed in long before this descend into hell. And since you didn't, that is very, very real money you have lost.

even though you recovered your costs, it isn't, wasn't and never will be "the house's money". That diminishing amount in value? all yours and only yours.

Calling Ximp, calling Ximp...

I know IE censors you because he doesn't want or can't accept your challenge, but maybe if you address the following instead, he won't have any problems with it.

First of all, kudos and chapeau to you for that gloriously beautiful logo. I'm going to assume that the even more beautiful splash on the wallet is also your doing. Amazing work man, way more deserving than the cancerous coin it represents.

No the questions... how many BC wallets do you have? Don't tell me, please, that you have only one with a current balance of 269 BC... Tell me, for instance, that you have that only for donations, but the you hold, at the very least, half a million coins or more. Please, please pretty please with a cherry on top, don't disappoint me.

Final question: Are you in The Black Hand? (you know, the "group of investors"...)

Thanks in advance for your answers.

Thank you for your prompt reply, this has cleared the situation for me.
However I will still hold, since most of the blackcoin i purchased was between 500-1000 sats
and i have already recovered my initial pruchasing cost so I can't lose either way.
This also explains why one of my  blackcoin address's  has gone from 1050 to 837 in the richlist (lol) with the exodus.

Well, IE just offered it, so lets...

It comes with conditions, of course.

No crooks -nor incompetents- on board.

It should be easy enough...

Well, not exactly. The "whales" if you want to call them that, are not "whales", are The Black Hand. Do you understand what is "being in cahoots"? Since apparently you do not, it means they act in agreement (formal, in this case, with papers signed) with the developers of the coin... in this case Rat4, StGNU and The DOGE, and they pay some crums to the towns idiot, Soepkip. It is Insider trading and manipulation, playing with marked cards, ok?
Of course other coins are manipulated by whales, of course. And it is legitimate market activity. Because they are no acting on inside information nor orchestrated, from the inside, moves to manipulate the price.

Contrary to what you think, the DOGE and his group -not necessarily The Black Hand, I have no evidence of that, so probably just the DOGE, StGNU and Rat4-, mined more than 35 million coins during the first few days. Distributed in several wallets. We know many of those wallets are at zero already. And, by my estimation, there are still over 10 million coins, perhaps more, to be dumped just by these three. Now The Black Hand came upon the coin later. I don't know how many coins they have but I assure you it is in the millions and they are increased in anticipated upside moves -not all working, obviously-. But there's no way to know the exact specifics. What's evident is that the group have an "investment" big enough to justify sending pointman Moriturui13 to Miami to try to contain the stupidity innate to the towns' fool.

And that, regardless of what you may choose to think, not only is not acceptable, it is the cancer of the coin, the beginning of the end.

Oh Rat4, like I have stated, is just another crook who codes who happens to be quite an stupid individual to boot. He's not "developing" anything. He never did. He just hard-forked Peercoin, that's all. There are no innovations of any kind in BC. None. There are several coins that are faster. There are several coins that are more innovative (not a stretch for this is not at all) and there are coins that are greener -if you insist on a name, I'll direct you to another con but very interesting coin, NXT, much greener, much more innovative, much faster...

The video, funny as it is, is not Soepkip, it is a mocking of his "brilliant" activities in Miami, by the way. But I understand your confusion.

In total agreement.

Call it whatever.. Day after day I read thread after thread about shit coins. We will do this and that and this and that. 1-3 weeks into the coin the dev team has vanished..

I would mine 'iconic expert' coin for the simple fact he gets things done and I can see a profit in it longterm.

Not interested in the black coin bashing.

shouldn't it be ironiccoin?

+1

I have not read all the ups and downs but I will mine iconiccoin because I want to see 50 naked girls at wall street.

Thank you for your views and response.

So most of this conflict has been caused by the whales being publicly vocal rather than the normal pump and dump cycles of unknown whales on the exchanges.

So the investers (public whales/sharks) have taken front seat letting rat4 actively code and safeguard the coin, I have checked the github and it is active.

Surely if the coin is still being developed by an active dedicated dev then it is still a potential investment that may still grow.

Any coin can be manipulated on the exchanges therefore by inference you could state that all whales are crooks and cancerous for actively fixing the market to make profit, this is standard for the exchanges and trading in general. To make a currency work it needs stability some coins actively promotes such funds to ease market manipulation such as naut however it then comes down to the integrity of the fund managers (Naut will be also be big in my opinion).

(I am not defending anyone here, in fact I've seen the video of soepkip and that was a drunken person who definitely should not have commented about blackcoin in that state, worrying.)

I will still hold my blackcoin for the long term and just sell my minted coins for different Alts, due to it being widely accepted on the exchanges and easy to use.  
 

I just went to maarx's website to download the agreement from the PR firm to show everyone they paid $30,000 for 3 press releases and it is gone 

For a whopping $30,000 you get 3 press releases and a bunch of PR stats. And I am a crook?

You know you are quite the idiot. When people donated for the event the price of BC was much higher. If I didn't convert to fiat and waited the value would be much less. So that means if the Wall Street event were to move forward I would have to raise more money because the value of the crypto coins would have decreased. The amount of stupidity in some people just amazes me.

But most of the people that are acting outraged did not donate. Did you donate?

Barabbas, I know that you think that BlackCoin has been premined (although everybody can see in the original thread that this is not the case). So that is something that taints your credibility from the start.

• Which coins are greener than this one?
• Everybody can define a 1 second blocktime, but this is not very stable as you can see with Cinni and this is why CoinKite will not work with coins below 1 min.
• Investors are free to dump, there is NO problem with that. This way the coins gets widely distributed... A problem arises when someone plants falls claims in order to manipulate the market. But there everybody is playing with their reputation like IE does by cancelling his event and bashing the coin he says he loves. This is like ebay... once done you can not gain credibility again easily. But at least he keeps a door open to still do the event if the community is behind him.
• The Android wallet is super important for being able to pay with the currency and not take your laptop with you. Do not underestimate this

I really wonder why you spend your time bashing all day long this coin... seems to me like you have a short position open... if you do not have a short position you should go to LibertyCoin, buy some, like others, and than pump and dump it... this way your time is productively spent.

This coin is the original and works. Do not cry if something like WhiteCoin or AsiaCoin happens to new copycats...

Amazingly, no one seems to even care about the question posed 2 days ago already:

Moritury13/dognip, what where you doing attending the meeting with the PR firm in Miami?

You yourself admitted to be Black Hand (the "investment" group that is in cahoots with the Blackcoin development team -The Doge, DSt.GNU and rat4-, manipulating the coin and dumping TENS OF MILLIONS of coins and thus hurting individual investors, traders and BC enthusiasts).

Once again, censoring is not the way to go. Nothing gives anyone more credibility than publicly recognizing mistakes. Nothing.

Censoring challenges is absurd because they surface in other venues so the damage is compounded.

More importantly, stupidity is fully exposed and remains so permanently... kind of like the pants of Soepkip and his stoned look.

But hey, it's your backyard...

Ximp will come back. Wouldn't you in his place?

I'll buy some of this P&D coin just to make a quick profit, Everybody buying SCAMMERCOIN.