Topic: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented - page 100. (Read 92462 times)

Technically it could. If it automatically goes to stage 2, you could still get other inputs and then withdraw as you don't get your keys until step 3. I wouldn't advise relying on that though, it doesn't seem a very comfortable option IMO (quitee a nice one if you use it though).

Is it mentioned anywhere if there is a maximum timeframe for making the two (or more) deposits such that they're combined and only the "remainder" amount less than 0.001 is "auto donated"? I haven't seen anything specified anywhere...

Is it just "session based"? I might have to do some testing next time I run some coins through the service.

you don't have to use the donate button directly, donation is not mandatory
just like the example, your 0.1249 BTC deposit will turn into 0.124 BTC
you will lose, automatically donate, whatever less than 0.001 BTC. In this case 0.0009 BTC
this is applied to total deposit in one single deposit address

so if you made 2 deposit transactions of 0.0055 BTC and 0.0057 BTC, (= 0.0112 BTC)
you will get 0.011 BTC (0.008 + 0.002 + 0.001) and auto-donate only 0.0002 BTC
then you can withdraw the chip sizes in form of private keys and/or voucher code

There is no longer a gambling system. You will get back exactly what you put in provided it's divisible by 0.001BTC and you don't donate any.

No, you obviously don't need to donate, as that's why it's a donation button not a fee button. But if you use them often and/or like the service, why wouldn't you want to donate.

Chipmixer is a service that mixes your bitcoins with other people's coins.

The best way to learn anymore is to practice using it with small chip sizes like 0.001BTC.

can anyone explain how ChipMixer works?
from this post
Your 0.1 BTC is exchanged for chips: 0.064 + 0.032 + 0.004.
and from site
Depositing 0.1249 BTC will result with 0.124 BTC funds.
Depositing 0.1240 BTC will result with 0.124 BTC funds.
Will I get the same input values or not?
Do I have to donate?or it’s back to me.
what’s Bet service?

Yes, those questions will be asked for now. but then they'll go away won't they? In a few months, new users to chipmixer will have no idea that there used to be a gambling feature on it that used to exist. New users currently probably don't either so it does solve the issue. and I do like the donate feature instead of charging a fee as then you can set how much you can actually give them and that you can actually pull out chips as private keys instead of them having to send you the coins as then you get to determine your own fee and the delay you want to use.

I still think a separate gambling site where you get a voucher code or something to input would be a good idea for them tro try to do. Even 7$ is quite steep for an initial bet (it's usually nice to run quuite a few 1 sat bet to check everything's close to fair - at least 30% win chance on x2 bets).

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As loyce said it served as a good way to donate to the mixer or to get a bit more back than you were expecting from tiny inputs - though maybe not many people actually used this function or peopel used it instead of the donate feature and the house edge was too low for it to turn a profit from that.
As TheQuin said also, it still says the 0.004BTC on the main site @chipmixer, could you cange this when removing the gambling feature? Can you also change the bit at the bottom that says sessions will timeout after 48h and change that to the 7 days it currently is please ?

I suspect support requests will come, whether or not a feature is there. Set a fixed fee, no donate or gamble option, and people will ask why there aren't those options. In fact, removing the betting option will probably see requests asking why, or future ones asking why not. I think we all know enough about people that questions will be asked, no matter how detailed explanations in FAQ can be

The minimum is back to 0.001... but that's not anyway an impact since the betting is completely optional. No one is forced to use it, but it is an additional step to randomize output size. I still think it was a very good, very unique option others didn't have, but if there were a better alternative, I'm all for it.

The betting feature was a good way to get rid of small inputs. When I had 0.007 BTC, I could either withdraw 0.001, 0.002 and 0.004, or bet. I lost 0.001 and doubled 0.002 to get 0.008. It could have been 0.004, but one way or another I wouldn't get small inputs.

It's still shown on the main page under "Why Choose ChipMixer?":

I was confused about this as they haven't updated the site. When you get to the deposit stage it says:


But after you deposit you can split your chips down to 0.001.

I had mixed feelings about the betting option at first as well. But I've come to use it as a fun way to donate. The last couple of times I have used the service it has been disabled and I sort of missed it.

As far as I know, the minimum chip size was reduced to 0.001BTC again when fees dropped:
It was only raised when 0.001BTC inputs were almost entirely eaten by mining fees.

I had mixed feelings about the betting thing. Based on how many times we got newbies asking why they would possibly want to donate to a bitcoin mixer (as if chipmixer were expected to be running a free service) and they must have got a lot of spam to their support asking why these functions existed (they obviously need the donate function).

I remember trying these out just after I got accepted into the campaign and got my first payment (I tested with 0.004BTC) and everything worked surprisingly well. I split my chip once and then split one of those chips again and bet with it (I won on my first bet and lost on the second and third so ended up with 0.002BTC but it was quite a nice integration to the system and I quite liked that).

A separate gambling site where you can request a voucher code from the mixer and use it on that site might work a bit better (I have a feeling the gambling thing went because otherwise people were forced to bet with quite a high minimum also - since the minimum chip size changed from 0.001BTC (~$7) to 0.004BTC (~$24).

Hadn't noticed it till I read pugman's post in the campaign thread but belated wishes for a happy first anniversary to Chipmixer! I still recall trying out the new mixer on the block with some curiosity, pleased to say there hasn't come another quite like it.

Also just read the betting fixture will be gone, that was a unique feature. Can we be expecting new features in the coming year?

Betting function has been disabled and will be removed soon.

Hi, CHIPMIXER replied to the emails I sent and the issue has been resolved for me. Sometimes the best way to build trust is when something goes wrong and it can be resolved
Thanks again and count on my continued business for sure.

Sorry about that. Our bitcoind got stuck. Please check again - it should be solved already.

I confirm - this is the same issue as in January. We will need to investigate this more.

Protonmail offers several paid email packages too, and can be paid with Bitcoin.
I'm pretty sure ChipMixer uses it because of the security and privacy it offers, and not because it's free.

Thanks for the feedback. Still have some time left on the session, but would be good if CHIPMIXER offered some type of reply to at least acknowledge receiving the support request. It is unnerving to send a support request to a free mail service and not receive any reply at all.
Has anyone else received any feedback about this same issue?

ChipMixer does check their email, but doesn't offer 24/7 support (yet). Just in case: make sure your session doesn't expire before your deposit is credited. You have 168 hours (1 week) per session and can extend it when needed.

the last time (in January) when the same thing happened, he came to forum and fixed it in less than a day
I hope he fixes it soon before people start losing patience and trust in the service
In the meantime be sure to keep the session alive by extending it to avoid any unnecessary extra complications

The support email is the best way to contact them rather than through the forum PM system. I'm sure they will get back to you as soon as they can. All previous technical issues reported in this thread were dealt with and I'm confident they'll rectify this soon.