[ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented - page 114.

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Quote from: Doors98 on November 13, 2017, 09:25:30 PM

Hi,

I´m trying to contact chipmixer on their email but I keep getting emails bounced back.

I had a question about this on their FAQ

"""But 1.024 BTC is so uncommon that everyone will know I've used this mixer!

After a while it will get more common, because you won't even need to use mixer to anonymize your coins. Just split them into tokens and they look exactly like chips."""

I don't understand the tokens part. I also have doubts about the amounts. If I mix 10 BTC for example, I get different chips, like 1 chip of 4.096 BTC another of 2.048 another of 1.024, 0.512, 0.256 etc

These amounts are only used by chipmixer so it´s very easy to track on the blockchain.

I´m concerned because I have to mix a decent amount of BTC and I want to remain as anonymous as possible.

Let me know please.

Best regards

True. Even though there is the commonize option IIRC that would basically get all your remaining few mBTCs and tip it to chipmixer so that you are able to end up with a nice, round number instead of 0.512, 1.024 etc.

It would be nice to have something to allow customers chose their own chip sizes to make the whole thing more private but i'm not sure how that is possible atm.

Also, splitting your balance into chips does not help. The main reason for using a mixer is to dissociate yourself from the initial deposit.

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Hi,

I´m trying to contact chipmixer on their email but I keep getting emails bounced back.

I had a question about this on their FAQ

"""But 1.024 BTC is so uncommon that everyone will know I've used this mixer!

After a while it will get more common, because you won't even need to use mixer to anonymize your coins. Just split them into tokens and they look exactly like chips."""

I don't understand the tokens part. I also have doubts about the amounts. If I mix 10 BTC for example, I get different chips, like 1 chip of 4.096 BTC another of 2.048 another of 1.024, 0.512, 0.256 etc

These amounts are only used by chipmixer so it´s very easy to track on the blockchain.

I´m concerned because I have to mix a decent amount of BTC and I want to remain as anonymous as possible.

Let me know please.

Best regards

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Quote from: Salmen on November 10, 2017, 09:03:06 AM

Quote from: AdolfinWolf on November 09, 2017, 04:54:14 PM

Seems to me that there is currently something wrong with the bootstrap you're using on the site, See

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Seemingly the css and js files will not be loaded. Clear your cache or cookies. If this still persists, please open your browser's developer console and click on Console, there should be an error and please paste it here.

Site seems to work normally now, Yesterday the issue was both on my phone, my desktop, and a VPS i logged in on to see if it was still bugged. very weird.

EDIT: site is still pretty buggy on mobile, but i think that's normal?

It looks like this on 5S,

https://i.imgur.com/0lu1N7L.png

https://i.imgur.com/SKSUhFH.png

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Quote from: AdolfinWolf on November 09, 2017, 04:54:14 PM

Seems to me that there is currently something wrong with the bootstrap you're using on the site, See

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Seemingly the css and js files will not be loaded. Clear your cache or cookies. If this still persists, please open your browser's developer console and click on Console, there should be an error and please paste it here.

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on November 08, 2017, 06:47:33 PM

It appears that Segwit2x has been called off by many of the major players in the fork. See these links:

https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-segwit2x/2017-November/000685.html
https://twitter.com/CharlieShrem/status/928308237597888512
https://twitter.com/lopp/status/928309280507351040?s=09
https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/928311412862210048

If it still does occur it will almost definitely be at a way smaller scale. Do you still plan on taking ChipMixer offline and then keeping it offline for a few days after the fork?

That is a great news! If there is no fork then we are not going offline.

Bad news - we have run out of smaller chips in the pool. They were refilled. If you have voucher, redeem it now. If you have a problem, please contact support.

Quote from: AdolfinWolf on November 09, 2017, 04:54:14 PM

Seems to me that there is currently something wrong with the bootstrap you're using on the site, See

It works for me.

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Quote from: AdolfinWolf on November 09, 2017, 04:54:14 PM

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Everything looks fine here. Have you tried in a different network/device?

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Seems to me that there is currently something wrong with the bootstrap you're using on the site, See

Google Chrome:

Firefox:

Opera:

Tor browser ( firefox ):

Or is this an issue on my end? Seems pretty unlikely.. Not sure how long this has been like this, but it might be something you want to fix ASAP.

Even worse on internet explorer.

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Quote from: ChipMixer on November 06, 2017, 12:06:07 PM

Quote from: ChipMixer on October 30, 2017, 03:52:26 PM

Due to Segwit 2x fork which is expected Nov 16 we announce that ChipMixer will be taken offline before fork (a day or two) and it will be offline for a few days till fork situation get stable. To avoid same situation as with Bitcoin Cash - chips you receive after fork will not contain bitcoins on another fork (S2X).

How to prepare for fork:

- mix your coins beforehand - you may need them before mixing services get online
- redeem your vouchers beforehand - otherwise you will lose s2x coins
- keep your bitcoins at addresses you have private keys
- keeping your bitcoins at exchange may allow you to sell forked coin at higher price, but you risk non-forked coin

There are still many non redeemed vouchers and about one week left.

It appears that Segwit2x has been called off by many of the major players in the fork. See these links:

https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-segwit2x/2017-November/000685.html
https://twitter.com/CharlieShrem/status/928308237597888512
https://twitter.com/lopp/status/928309280507351040?s=09
https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/928311412862210048

If it still does occur it will almost definitely be at a way smaller scale. Do you still plan on taking ChipMixer offline and then keeping it offline for a few days after the fork?

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Quote from: mocacinno on November 08, 2017, 09:40:42 AM

Quote from: 1Referee on November 08, 2017, 09:34:13 AM

I was about to have a look at the site, but are forwarded with a warning message from my browser that the connection isn't secured. Firefox says that chipmixer.com uses an invalid security certificate, which is expired currently? It needs some urgency because it may distract some people thinking it's unsafe to use this site.

I cannot reproduce this problem... Everything seems ok to me.
It seems chipmixer is using a letsencrypt certificate, if i'm not mistaking, those ones have to be renewed every 3 months...

I just tried accessing the site, but it seems to not be working at all, whether that is through a secure connection or through a regular one. The site does properly redirect to the HTTPS port 443, but I just keep getting a 504 timeout when I try to access it.

I am assuming this is temporary and that maybe the certificate is being renewed right now, albeit as you said, you had no such problem. Perhaps it is competitors DDoSing the site again, but hopefully it will all be back up soon. I do not know if the Tor link is working, but if they both connect to the same server then it is probably down as well.

Edit: It seems to be back up!

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Hi, is the website down?

Edit: Working Fine!! Grin

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Quote from: 1Referee on November 08, 2017, 09:34:13 AM

I was about to have a look at the site, but are forwarded with a warning message from my browser that the connection isn't secured. Firefox says that chipmixer.com uses an invalid security certificate, which is expired currently? It needs some urgency because it may distract some people thinking it's unsafe to use this site.

I cannot reproduce this problem... Everything seems ok to me.
It seems chipmixer is using a letsencrypt certificate, if i'm not mistaking, those ones have to be renewed every 3 months...

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I was about to have a look at the site, but are forwarded with a warning message from my browser that the connection isn't secured. Firefox says that chipmixer.com uses an invalid security certificate, which is expired currently? It needs some urgency because it may distract some people thinking it's unsafe to use this site.

Edit; everything is ok now.

I wanted to check whether or not there was a message making people pay attention to the upcoming hard fork on the front page, but it's still not there. Perhaps a good idea to make people aware of your hard fork precautions at current time frame?

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Quote from: audaciousbeing on November 07, 2017, 04:01:18 AM

I have read about situations where chips are exhausted, or vouchers are not enough and some things like that. With this notice which surely will give rise to traffic, how are you preparing for it?.

Chip shortage occurs when there is much higher input traffic than expected. Redeeming vouchers does not affect it because we keep more chips in pool than sum of all vouchers.

Quote from: Thirdspace on November 07, 2017, 08:25:10 AM

what would happen if before site goes "offline", we still have open session waiting for deposit
and the bitcoin deposit got stuck in limbo because very low tx fee was used
then we couldn't extend it when site goes "offline" for a few days
can we recover it by proof of signature from sender address or something?

Last time we have added big red sign. It did not work - we still had a lot of customers sending their coins to mix. We had to froze sessions (disable deletion after 48h), so they could be refrozen at support request.

If your session will be active while we go offline, send us an e-mail to support. We will solve your problem (but you may have to wait till we get online, so mix now, do not wait for fork).

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Quote from: Thirdspace on November 07, 2017, 08:25:10 AM

what would happen if before site goes "offline", we still have open session waiting for deposit
and the bitcoin deposit got stuck in limbo because very low tx fee was used
then we couldn't extend it when site goes "offline" for a few days
can we recover it by proof of signature from sender address or something?

Contact support before your session expires:

Quote from: ChipMixer on October 11, 2017, 09:21:07 AM

Quote from: biddicoin on October 11, 2017, 03:05:15 AM

What happens if I open a "Session" and transfer BTC and then the site gets attacked and is not available for a couple of days?

BTC gone?

If you have a limited access to our service, please contact support. We can either extend your session (if your deposit is still pending) or issue a voucher you can use anytime you want.

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Mixing reinvented for your privacy | chipmixer.com

Quote from: ChipMixer on November 06, 2017, 12:06:07 PM

Quote from: ChipMixer on October 30, 2017, 03:52:26 PM

Due to Segwit 2x fork which is expected Nov 16 we announce that ChipMixer will be taken offline before fork (a day or two) and it will be offline for a few days till fork situation get stable. To avoid same situation as with Bitcoin Cash - chips you receive after fork will not contain bitcoins on another fork (S2X).

How to prepare for fork:

- mix your coins beforehand - you may need them before mixing services get online
- redeem your vouchers beforehand - otherwise you will lose s2x coins
- keep your bitcoins at addresses you have private keys
- keeping your bitcoins at exchange may allow you to sell forked coin at higher price, but you risk non-forked coin

There are still many non redeemed vouchers and about one week left.

what would happen if before site goes "offline", we still have open session waiting for deposit
and the bitcoin deposit got stuck in limbo because very low tx fee was used
then we couldn't extend it when site goes "offline" for a few days
can we recover it by proof of signature from sender address or something?

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Quote from: keeelmepls on November 04, 2017, 02:29:46 PM

A few days ago, I had huge problems (through my fault), but support quickly helped me get out of this situation. You are amazing!

Thank you for dropping by to give a review but it would have been better if you use your real account to do that because I don't expect that you will open an account just to do that but at the same time, I respect your privacy.

Quote from: ChipMixer on November 06, 2017, 12:06:07 PM

Quote from: ChipMixer on October 30, 2017, 03:52:26 PM

Due to Segwit 2x fork which is expected Nov 16 we announce that ChipMixer will be taken offline before fork (a day or two) and it will be offline for a few days till fork situation get stable. To avoid same situation as with Bitcoin Cash - chips you receive after fork will not contain bitcoins on another fork (S2X).

How to prepare for fork:

- mix your coins beforehand - you may need them before mixing services get online
- redeem your vouchers beforehand - otherwise you will lose s2x coins
- keep your bitcoins at addresses you have private keys
- keeping your bitcoins at exchange may allow you to sell forked coin at higher price, but you risk non-forked coin

There are still many non redeemed vouchers and about one week left.

On the notice for people to take advantage of the upcoming offline that ChipMixer might face as a result of the fork, what are the plans put in place to manage the traffic that will arise from this. Because I have read about situations where chips are exhausted, or vouchers are not enough and some things like that. With this notice which surely will give rise to traffic, how are you preparing for it?.

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Quote from: ChipMixer on October 30, 2017, 03:52:26 PM

Due to Segwit 2x fork which is expected Nov 16 we announce that ChipMixer will be taken offline before fork (a day or two) and it will be offline for a few days till fork situation get stable. To avoid same situation as with Bitcoin Cash - chips you receive after fork will not contain bitcoins on another fork (S2X).

How to prepare for fork:

- mix your coins beforehand - you may need them before mixing services get online
- redeem your vouchers beforehand - otherwise you will lose s2x coins
- keep your bitcoins at addresses you have private keys
- keeping your bitcoins at exchange may allow you to sell forked coin at higher price, but you risk non-forked coin

There are still many non redeemed vouchers and about one week left.

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A few days ago, I had huge problems (through my fault), but support quickly helped me get out of this situation. You are amazing!

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on November 03, 2017, 02:50:49 AM

Are you guys still working in upgrading to SegWit? I found this thread of yours from August but I see that the addresses generated are still non-SegWit ones.

There are three misunderstandings in this post.
1. The other thread is about using Segwit features to increase privacy - for example Lightning Network. It would be separate service, not part of ChipMixer.
2. We are using Segwit transactions to create chips - they are cheaper to spend.
3. Bech32 addresses (for example bc1qw508d6qejxtdg4y5r3zarvary0c5xw7kv8f3t4) are called Segwit addresses but they are not required to use Segwit. They are not very popular, cannot be used by old clients and some customers fear the new. We are not implementing them till they gain more popularity.

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Quote from: richardsNY on November 03, 2017, 05:29:43 PM

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on November 03, 2017, 02:50:49 AM

Are you guys still working in upgrading to SegWit? I found this thread of yours from August but I see that the addresses generated are still non-SegWit ones.

I don't see much of a point in this since people are still working with non SegWit addresses, so the benefit isn't really there if ChipMixer does happen to roll it out. I can only see this being a viable option when people on a large scale are transacting with SegWit addresses, and as long as that isn't the case, it's not much of a useful addition. SegWit has been active on Litecoin for quite a while now, and a lot transactions there are still non SegWit, which basically means that people and services haven't yet taken the effort to actually utilize SegWit to the full.

If I remember correctly, the actual usage average a few days ago was somewhere around 15% and going down for whatever reason. Personally, I don't even know which wallets support the feature and which don't. Regardless, the number of transactions performed from ChipMixer addresses may be negligible to the total amount required for SegWit to significantly decrease transaction sizes, but if enough places were to adopt this feature, it would help the network significantly. If ChipMixer were to adopt this they could set an example, albeit it would certainly not have a direct effect on transaction fees.

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