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Topic: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented - page 133. (Read 92878 times)

legendary
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Bitmixer is now closed. Great news for ChipMixer! I'm wondering how the traffic towards chipmixer will be now that BM is closed, and I wish there was a way to track it. Either way, as sad as it is to see such a huge name disappear from the privacy aspect of mixing coins, this could potentially have some amazing positive effects on bitmixer. Good luck, chipmixer!

I hope there isn't a way to verify if the traffic went up, it would mean both mixer were keeping logs Wink
legendary
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BitMixer, a mixing service like ChipMixer, closed stating arguments such as mixing being detrimental to Bitcoin and illegal or dark market transactions being cause for much criticism of Bitcoin. They also stated that the privacy and anonymity go against Bitcoin's own design. This brings questions to ChipMixer's stance on this. I assume that these beliefs are not held by ChipMixer and that there are no plans at all to suspend the service, but some clarification would always be nice to have.

I've never understood that argument. The most commonly used method of purchasing illegal things? Cash. Dollar bills. This whole attack on crypto because it's "used illegally" is beyond ridiculous.

I do nothing illegal, but I wholeheartedly stand by the stance that what you do with your money is your business. The govt doesn't need to know that I went to Chili's yesterday and spent time at a theme park where I bought an icee.

Source: drug raid where over $22 billion in USD (cash) alone was found. If you haven't seen this yet, this is AMAZING how much they had stored. It's crazy...

http://www.infojustice.com/Topics/29%20Photos%20of%20Drug%20Lords%20Home%20after%20Raid.html

And the story behind that has been confirmed multiple times as well to be legitimate.

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legendary
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BitMixer, a mixing service like ChipMixer, closed stating arguments such as mixing being detrimental to Bitcoin and illegal or dark market transactions being cause for much criticism of Bitcoin. They also stated that the privacy and anonymity go against Bitcoin's own design. This brings questions to ChipMixer's stance on this. I assume that these beliefs are not held by ChipMixer and that there are no plans at all to suspend the service, but some clarification would always be nice to have.
hero member
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Bitmixer is now closed. Great news for ChipMixer! I'm wondering how the traffic towards chipmixer will be now that BM is closed, and I wish there was a way to track it. Either way, as sad as it is to see such a huge name disappear from the privacy aspect of mixing coins, this could potentially have some amazing positive effects on bitmixer. Good luck, chipmixer!
hero member
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Hi guys, I would just like to start a new topic here, I am posting it here since it is heavily related to chip mixer and the services that they provide to us.

Chipmixer is one of the most popular and secure mixing services out there, especially with the function to donate/bet your chips, which mean you will come out with a different amount, covering up your tracks even further. Now, there is no doubt that Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are the most popular currencies to use when trading on the dark net. Now how would chip mixer and other services that help anonymize you be affected by the police, if they start making an attempt on taking the dark net down?

People discuss!

Well I guess authorities could try and take over the site, then register everything we do with it.

That's what they've done with one of the dark web silk road clones they just shut down.

However, most people are probably using mixing services while not doing anything illegal, or at worse hiding some funds from the taxman, not something the police would be interested in.
legendary
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Reading through the service post, it seems to mix away taint through newly generated address location.
In order to do that deposits are sent to a master which then sends the output back to you from a new address, using some other coins.
Simple but efficient, probably on pause for Segwit2X maybe chip input will change but otherwise neat stuff.
legendary
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I really like it you don't have to submit any I.D or register in their site,
The transaction is really anonymous and I think that is what the bitcoin user really adore or want about it.
To make every transaction hidden and I think chipmixer is doing it for us.
Not really the main reason on why ChipMixer is the best.

Why would a mixer require ID verification? The only reason people use mixers are to make their coins more anonymous, and this only would make everything less anonymous and facilitate the tracking of users.

Imagine sending your Bitcoins who are already somewhat anonymous by nature, and having their identity attached to those coins. Reverse mixing lol

Even better is those that also only run in RAM, such that there's no way to track users (unless someone rooted the servers and pulled data in real-time). Even if the servers are taken hostage, the data would all be wiped. Not sure that it'd work in this case due to its nature of allowing coin storage, though.
legendary
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I really like it you don't have to submit any I.D or register in their site,
The transaction is really anonymous and I think that is what the bitcoin user really adore or want about it.
To make every transaction hidden and I think chipmixer is doing it for us.
Not really the main reason on why ChipMixer is the best.

Why would a mixer require ID verification? The only reason people use mixers are to make their coins more anonymous, and this only would make everything less anonymous and facilitate the tracking of users.

Imagine sending your Bitcoins who are already somewhat anonymous by nature, and having their identity attached to those coins. Reverse mixing lol
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Being free of cost, Chipmixer is undoubtedly the best mixer I have seen till date.
There could be multiple reasons why chipmixer must be the best one. The wonderful feature I am really enjoying with chipmixer must be, quick mixing. It is possible as total mixing process just requires only one confirmation as output is already having confirmations.
I really like it you don't have to submit any I.D or register in their site,
The transaction is really anonymous and I think that is what the bitcoin user really adore or want about it.
To make every transaction hidden and I think chipmixer is doing it for us.
legendary
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So doesn't really matter either way, you're in control. That's the beauty of Chipmixer using private keys.

Sorry for the newbie question, but how do other mixers handle it? Do you just get an off-chain balance, akin to an exchange, before being able to withdraw your coins again?

Yes. All you're doing is sending funds, they credit your account, you withdraw and they send using other funds. Just like any other site. It's not a direct 1:1 thing or it wouldn't be mixing.
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So doesn't really matter either way, you're in control. That's the beauty of Chipmixer using private keys.

Sorry for the newbie question, but how do other mixers handle it? Do you just get an off-chain balance, akin to an exchange, before being able to withdraw your coins again?
hero member
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Hi guys, I would just like to start a new topic here, I am posting it here since it is heavily related to chip mixer and the services that they provide to us.

Chipmixer is one of the most popular and secure mixing services out there, especially with the function to donate/bet your chips, which mean you will come out with a different amount, covering up your tracks even further. Now, there is no doubt that Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are the most popular currencies to use when trading on the dark net. Now how would chip mixer and other services that help anonymize you be affected by the police, if they start making an attempt on taking the dark net down?

People discuss!
hero member
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Careful there, buddy. Unless I've somehoe missed out a really crucial update to ChipMixer services, your comments sound really out of place. Investing, for example? Mining?
Ignore him. It's probably just a spammer.

He just posted his application on ChipMixer Signature Campaign and I bet that only posted this nonsense to follow the Rule 3 of the campaign.

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3. You are required to have one post per week in the ChipMixer ANN thread, or else you may receive a partial payment.

Hopefully he will get denied by DarkStar soon.  Roll Eyes

Reported. It's obvious that he's posting nonsensical posts that nobody can understand just to gain his precious extra ANN post.



Anyways there is no reason to be worry as a customer of chipmixer honestly because a) you have already withdrawn your chip and got the private key in return which you can use at any time, sweep, and use on both chains if hadrd fork happens or b) you have a voucher code/bitcoin in your wallet in which case you can use the service after it reopens.

So doesn't really matter either way, you're in control. That's the beauty of Chipmixer using private keys.
legendary
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Careful there, buddy. Unless I've somehoe missed out a really crucial update to ChipMixer services, your comments sound really out of place. Investing, for example? Mining?
Ignore him. It's probably just a spammer.

He just posted his application on ChipMixer Signature Campaign and I bet that only posted this nonsense to follow the Rule 3 of the campaign.

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3. You are required to have one post per week in the ChipMixer ANN thread, or else you may receive a partial payment.

Hopefully he will get denied by DarkStar soon.  Roll Eyes
legendary
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Careful there, buddy. Unless I've somehoe missed out a really crucial update to ChipMixer services, your comments sound really out of place. Investing, for example? Mining?
legendary
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Now there are many services that provide trade, but mining is one effective way with the clarity of profit that can not be doubted again, I am sure Chip Mixer is one place for us to invest in a long period of time both actively and passively.
hero member
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Does Chipmixer have some sort of plan for if there was to be a network split?

E.g. only support one coin, or the other, or both?

If one can deposit on one chain and claim a private key after the mixing process that had funds in it before the network split, wouldn't it mean that that person gets theoretically a lot more than what he began with? So what's your stance on this?

This can be a valid concern in the face of the possibility of a split...but I think the chance for a split is already getting dimmer. There would be technical changes on Bitcoin come August 1 and even beyond but split is not anymore on the table. Unless, of course, there can be a big disruption like a coup d'etat by a group of miners not happy with the recent developments (though it is doubtful if they would rock the very boat they are on top of).
legendary
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Does Chipmixer have some sort of plan for if there was to be a network split?

E.g. only support one coin, or the other, or both?

If one can deposit on one chain and claim a private key after the mixing process that had funds in it before the network split, wouldn't it mean that that person gets thereotically a lot more than what he began with? So what's your stance on this?
It'd be nice to get a public statement of whats to happen IF a chain split occurs, though.

They already gave us one statement regarding the situation:

Aug 1 / BIP148 is coming in 15 days. ChipMixer will closed a day before Aug 1 till situation get stable.

What does it mean for you?

If you have withdrawn chips (private keys) - you can spend them any time you want, even when ChipMixer is closed. If hardfork happen, your funds will be spendable on both forks.
If you have unspent voucher(s) - redeem them for private key before or wait till we reopen. Same if you need to mix some coins.

In case of doubt, redeem and sweep before Aug 1.

Does ChipMixer support BIP148/BIP149/Segwit/Segwitx2/others?

No. We focus on privacy and Segwit does not give us anything related to privacy. Hardfork means lack of stability and loss of Bitcoin value.
hero member
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I dont think the issue of what type of coin will be accepted in the case of a split should not be a subject of discussion for chipmixer when I dont see any deviation from what the community will be adopting. The exchange sites will take a position and that will be the binding position in my opinion where the other will be taken as an alt and when that happens, Chipmixer can then tweak its software to adopt the accepted one but doing that now is jumping the gun in my opinion.
hero member
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Does Chipmixer have some sort of plan for if there was to be a network split?

E.g. only support one coin, or the other, or both?

If one can deposit on one chain and claim a private key after the mixing process that had funds in it before the network split, wouldn't it mean that that person gets thereotically a lot more than what he began with? So what's your stance on this?

For a mixer, I don't think it really matters as much as it does with an exchange or a wallet. Since they don't actually hold any of your coins except for the chips (of which you get the private keys), you could use the coins you mix pre-split in either blockchain. All you need is the private key and you get access to both of them. For those post-split, it would depend on which blockchain the market decides to use. I expect some downtime for things to settle down so they can decide on the blockchain. In the very unlikely event that the split creates two highly used chains, we would probably see functionality for both unless ChipMixer takes sides with either one, but that's not something I know the answer to.

I think it does. Chipmixer would be at a very big loss if they still continued using old private keys(generated pre-fork), and only required users to deposit coins on both chains. Either they have to ask for 2 coins for the priv key or just wiping out the balance of old private keys altogether and transferring them to a newly generated one.

Anyways it's no guarantee that such a think would even happen, i think that chipmixer has its own plans. It'll probably not affect users as much as exchanges as you said but it will affect chipmixer. So it's nothing to worry about, if anything goes wrong i'm sure Chipmixer support is always here to help.

It'd be nice to get a public statement of whats to happen IF a chain split occurs, though.
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