[ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented - page 76.

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Quote from: Rath_ on May 22, 2019, 02:20:01 PM

[...] I wonder why they still haven't done anything to Bitcoin ATMs.

Are there anonymous Bitcoin ATMs? IIRC pretty much all ATM providers both in the Americas and in Europe follow KYC procedures of some sort. At least I'm not aware of any that don't. Granted, the effectiveness of said KYC procedures may vary, but at least there are some in place.

Also I remember a thread by a Bitcointalk member that operates (or used to operate) Bitcoin ATMs in the Netherlands ranting about strict regulations and questionable interference by law enforcement so it does seem like Bitcoin ATM operators need to tread carefully.

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Quote from: gentlemand on May 22, 2019, 11:52:12 AM

If it were me I'd shut up shop. Or at the very least go camping in the woods and see if there are any actual charges brought from this. I can't see any mention of anyone being charged for anything yet.

no arrests at all. the media reports make it sound like they don't even know or understand the extent of money laundering being done. like AdolfinWolf said, "shoot first ask questions later".

As it stands they don't know (yet) who ran the service, right? Or did I miss this in the reports? So far it seems like they only got the servers.

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Quote from: gentlemand on May 22, 2019, 11:52:12 AM

Quote from: Gyrsur on May 22, 2019, 11:49:44 AM

Bets on who is the next? Wink

I wouldn't be surprised if it was all of them, but perhaps Bestmixer had particularly gaping holes in how they operated.

it sure sounds like it. all their servers were in the netherlands/luxembourg---seriously, who does that? of course those servers were going to get nabbed eventually.

Quote from: gentlemand on May 22, 2019, 11:52:12 AM

If it were me I'd shut up shop. Or at the very least go camping in the woods and see if there are any actual charges brought from this. I can't see any mention of anyone being charged for anything yet.

no arrests at all. the media reports make it sound like they don't even know or understand the extent of money laundering being done. like AdolfinWolf said, "shoot first ask questions later".

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I hope this Bestmixer event will trigger new innovation in decentralization of these services or even side-chain services or just counter measures to prevent sites like this being taken down.

Financial privacy in Crypto currency is of utmost importance and it is nothing more than the anonymity that cash offers people. If every transaction or ownership of coins were public knowledge, people might get hurt. Angry

Why should we have less financial privacy than people who use fiat currencies? Huh

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Quote from: jackg on May 22, 2019, 02:03:52 PM

This is disapointing of europol and the Netherlands. They clearly don't understand the significance of these sites and how mixers work in a way cash does.

They pointed out in the report that there are people who use mixing services only to increase their anonymity, but since many transactions originate from darknet, this kind of services should be taken down. I wonder why they still haven't done anything to Bitcoin ATMs.

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Yeah ChipMixer are in a similar country to another service in a similar secter going since 2013/2014 I think they should be pretty safe.

As a side note if you want to keep your legally gray actions secret, don't register a domain in Europe lol because this happens.

This is disapointing of europol and the Netherlands. They clearly don't understand the significance of these sites and how mixers work in a way cash does.

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Quote from: gentlemand on May 22, 2019, 11:52:12 AM

Quote from: Gyrsur on May 22, 2019, 11:49:44 AM

Bets on who is the next? Wink

I wouldn't be surprised if it was all of them, but perhaps Bestmixer had particularly gaping holes in how they operated.

If it were me I'd shut up shop. Or at the very least go camping in the woods and see if there are any actual charges brought from this. I can't see any mention of anyone being charged for anything yet.

My guess:

Either Chipmixer was created with this scenario in mind -- "bulletproof" so to speak (hence why they haven't been taken down yet,
(because lets be real, Chipmixer is way bigger than Bestmixer.io)

Which means they're probably chilling somewhere in the Seychelles, or some other country where they can't just raid their servers as they did with Bestmixer.

If they're not, i wouldn't be surprised if they're going to close their doors sooner rather than later. I know i probably would too. (Even if what you're doing isn't illegal. These "Shoot first ask questions later" agencies are at some point not worth messing around with anymore..)

Or.. perhaps Chipmixer has already fallen.. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Gyrsur on May 22, 2019, 11:49:44 AM

Bets on who is the next? Wink

I wouldn't be surprised if it was all of them, but perhaps Bestmixer had particularly gaping holes in how they operated.

If it were me I'd shut up shop. Or at the very least go camping in the woods and see if there are any actual charges brought from this. I can't see any mention of anyone being charged for anything yet.

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Quote from: gentlemand on May 22, 2019, 11:12:49 AM

Considering Bestmixer has just been seized for what looks like relatively unspecific reasons, is anyone willing to guess what Chipmixer's next move is likely to be?

Bitmixer.io had the sense to walk before there was any heat.

Bets on who is the next? Wink

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Considering Bestmixer has just been seized for what looks like relatively unspecific reasons, is anyone willing to guess what Chipmixer's next move is likely to be?

Bitmixer.io had the sense to walk before there was any heat.

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still no reply whatsoever from admin!
more than 20 days waiting

a lot of money lost!

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Great service, always recommend it

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Quote from: 100bitcoin on May 20, 2019, 08:04:12 AM

Quote from: Gyrsur on May 18, 2019, 02:01:17 AM

A serious Newbie advise!

Use a reliable Mixer Service with Tor and copy the Tor URL address directly into your Tor Browser like you copy a Bitcoin address directly into your Bitcoin client.

Why the .onion service? What's wrong in using the .com itself from a Tor browser?

because of routing and privacy reasons. Wink

https://tor.stackexchange.com/questions/8/how-does-tor-route-dns-requests

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Quote from: 100bitcoin on May 20, 2019, 08:04:12 AM

Why the .onion service? What's wrong in using the .com itself from a Tor browser?

My guess would be that he's probably still advertising bitblender and is trying to advertise that here again...
As I think of it, just as a point it is helpful to cross reference any web address as the clearnet site of bitblender got hacked and the address was changed.

Check ann threads and anywhere else you can find to validate you have the right key.

.onion should be used instead of .com just because it can increase your privacy.

If the first and last hops are done by the same host then they can work out who you are and where you're trying to access. But with six hops you'd need 4 nodes from the same host.

In theory:
1st node knows your IP and the IP of the next node.
2nd node knows the IP of the first and third node.
3rd node knows the 2nd IP and the IP of the final server.

If you own 1 and 3 you therefore know who has requested what (the governments run a lot more exit nodes than you think and I can imagine they probably share resources).

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Quote from: Gyrsur on May 18, 2019, 02:01:17 AM

A serious Newbie advise!

Use a reliable Mixer Service with Tor and copy the Tor URL address directly into your Tor Browser like you copy a Bitcoin address directly into your Bitcoin client.

Why the .onion service? What's wrong in using the .com itself from a Tor browser?

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Quote from: n0brain on May 17, 2019, 07:42:12 PM

Hope my experience may help someone as I've just lost 0.63284516 BTC by using a scam site.

Sorry for your loss, you should pay more attention next time around, also it would be good if you could edit this post and make it a bit clearer that you lost BTC using a fake chipmixer site "chipmixer.info " instead of the the original https://chipmixer.com. The current post might give the wrong impersion to lazy readers such as @Bitcoinsummoner

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Quote from: n0brain on May 17, 2019, 07:42:12 PM

Hope my experience may help someone as I've just lost 0.63284516 BTC by using a scam site.

Do you mean you have lost your fund for using chipmixer, has it not gave you withdraw option or you just lost on betting on the site chipmixer? If you loss on betting then it is not scam it is loss on betting.

Did you read any of the last page? Or did you just need to make your posts for the week as you made 15 posts in 30 minutes today? Roll Eyes

Not only did he say he lost his BTC to a scam site in the post that you quoted, but 3 posts above that, he is asking if chipmixer.info is a scam site... which clearly it is... as the ONLY legit URLs are https://chipmixer.com/ and http://chipmixerwzxtzbw.onion/

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Quote from: n0brain on May 17, 2019, 07:42:12 PM

Hope my experience may help someone as I've just lost 0.63284516 BTC by using a scam site.

Do you mean you have lost your fund for using chipmixer, has it not gave you withdraw option or you just lost on betting on the site chipmixer? If you loss on betting then it is not scam it is loss on betting.

ChipMixer removed the "betting" option a long time ago.

Read his post. He used a fake site.

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Has anyone ever tried taking Google to court over this crap (the phishing thing on any site) ?

They do that sort of stuff all the time because they'd rather have the advertising money than help people using their service. Duckduck are the same, I moved across to them and honestly expected better...

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Google is also advertising a fake site again: ".site" this time.
I've reported it through https://safebrowsing.google.com/safebrowsing/report_phish/?hl=en but from experience I don't expect Google to take it down.

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A serious Newbie advise!

Use a reliable Mixer Service with Tor and copy the Tor URL address directly into your Tor Browser like you copy a Bitcoin address directly into your Bitcoin client.

Create an account with a nick name (which you never use anywhere else) on this reliable Mixer Service and start to test the service with a very small amount. The smallest amount which is possible. If this is working perfectly then you can start to use larger amounts. In this order!

If you had a bad experience with a non-reliable Mixer Service don't hesitate to report your experience to section Scam Accusations on this board to warn other users and to clarify the situation if possible.

Be assured if I had ever a bad experience with the Mixer Service I advertise for I would not advertise for it any longer.

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