who prepared 40 btc down in book? 
Blazin8888 said something he will throw a lot of btc when I2P wallet is released 
Topic: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= - page 106. (Read 826733 times)
May 03, 2015, 11:34:06 AM
May 03, 2015, 11:33:39 AM
I've been away for a while (since the big pump 
) so please excuse my ignorance. I see a lot of progress is being made and the market looks oversold and so I'm on the sidelines again, but I have a question before jumping back in: Are the crave markets going to use crave or btc as the currency for purchasing stuff? Or both? Sorry if this is already answered somewhere obvious.
I am asking because, lets be real, nobody is going to use an altcoin on illicit markets.. They very well might use the markets themselves, but they will not use an altcoin for the transactions. For many reasons...
1) Decreased anonymity. Sure, this coin is more "anonymous" than bitcoin, but nothing is absolutely anonymous and since there are so few people who use it, it is actually waaaaaaay easier to keep track of everybody involved.
2) Volatility. Vendors and even customers cannot and will not tolerate the extreme volatility. Even bitcoin's volatility is a big problem for illicit vendors because they are not able to quickly liquidate their funds since they first have to launder them.
3) Liquidity (closely related to #2). Vendors need to be able to cash out without dumping the market to oblivion. Not as big an issue for customers because when they pump the price up buying, it just means they pay less crave when they purchase something with it (but this is just doubly screwing the vendor now because of the inflated value of crave).
Now, obviously all of these issues would diminish as adoption increases. But even bitcoin hasn't completely achieved this.
For the above reasons, if the markets are to actually be functional and not just proof-of-concept, I think it would be best if BTC were used within the markets. Or at least for it to be an option. If that's even possible? Or will it simply be up to the people who run the markets?
Again, sorry if these questions have already been answered ad nauseam.
) so please excuse my ignorance. I see a lot of progress is being made and the market looks oversold and so I'm on the sidelines again, but I have a question before jumping back in: Are the crave markets going to use crave or btc as the currency for purchasing stuff? Or both? Sorry if this is already answered somewhere obvious.I am asking because, lets be real, nobody is going to use an altcoin on illicit markets.. They very well might use the markets themselves, but they will not use an altcoin for the transactions. For many reasons...
1) Decreased anonymity. Sure, this coin is more "anonymous" than bitcoin, but nothing is absolutely anonymous and since there are so few people who use it, it is actually waaaaaaay easier to keep track of everybody involved.
2) Volatility. Vendors and even customers cannot and will not tolerate the extreme volatility. Even bitcoin's volatility is a big problem for illicit vendors because they are not able to quickly liquidate their funds since they first have to launder them.
3) Liquidity (closely related to #2). Vendors need to be able to cash out without dumping the market to oblivion. Not as big an issue for customers because when they pump the price up buying, it just means they pay less crave when they purchase something with it (but this is just doubly screwing the vendor now because of the inflated value of crave).
Now, obviously all of these issues would diminish as adoption increases. But even bitcoin hasn't completely achieved this.
For the above reasons, if the markets are to actually be functional and not just proof-of-concept, I think it would be best if BTC were used within the markets. Or at least for it to be an option. If that's even possible? Or will it simply be up to the people who run the markets?
Again, sorry if these questions have already been answered ad nauseam.
Good thoughtful questions...
ICM:
1) What's your response to people saying Crave has no
innovation and is just a copy paste thrown together?
- The only issue I see now with Crave is the annonymous part.
2) How do we mix our Crave? Blur I understand is an asset so it's not
anon cash like Dark was...can you help me understand?
3) How exactly will users create the market?
4) will it be full accesable In wallet? ..if so how will users choose what Crave markets to browse to?
5) will the market be built on Satoshis blockchain or something else? What features make it decentralized?
The real NEED here is a decentralized market that works. So nothing like the evoloution scam happens.
@
ICM
*I am holding off on all investments until I can gain more clarity
****I now have my trigger finger on 146 BTC for the first truely decentralized marketplace. Let the best dev deliver
These questions are valid and should be addressed by the dev when he has some time.
May 03, 2015, 11:18:27 AM
who prepared 40 btc down in book?
May 03, 2015, 11:04:12 AM
I2P implementation is awesome but once the multi-sig and urge are finished then CRAVE will reflect its true value.
May 03, 2015, 11:00:46 AM
i dont know what coin have IP2 first with native and IP2 gui in wallet.
But in Crave its work now and this coin dont have premine and have good dev.
Good work
But in Crave its work now and this coin dont have premine and have good dev.
Good work
May 03, 2015, 10:51:08 AM
Now back to working on a better crave guide with pictures.
May 03, 2015, 10:47:07 AM
Definition of concern troll:
“In an argument, a concern troll is someone who is on one side of the discussion, but pretends to be a supporter of the other side with “concerns”. The idea behind this is that your opponents will take your arguments more seriously if they think you’re an ally."
prospect claims to hold crave, in an effort to establish credibility within a community, but yet has "concerns" about little minor things he tries to embellish, make bigger & point out.
Yes, that is concern trolling.
“In an argument, a concern troll is someone who is on one side of the discussion, but pretends to be a supporter of the other side with “concerns”. The idea behind this is that your opponents will take your arguments more seriously if they think you’re an ally."
prospect claims to hold crave, in an effort to establish credibility within a community, but yet has "concerns" about little minor things he tries to embellish, make bigger & point out.
Yes, that is concern trolling.
May 03, 2015, 10:34:56 AM
prospect, I think you and your friends from shadowtrash community should be more concerned about your currency.
I know some people with very very much money, who are just recovering their investments in the last days, then they will dump over 2 million sdc.
And after that, keeping the price at least 1000 satoshis for months, maybe years.
You must already have realized what is happening some "strange" thing in recent weeks, is not it?
And you never stop with this stupidity against other coins...
I know some people with very very much money, who are just recovering their investments in the last days, then they will dump over 2 million sdc.
And after that, keeping the price at least 1000 satoshis for months, maybe years.
You must already have realized what is happening some "strange" thing in recent weeks, is not it?
And you never stop with this stupidity against other coins...
May 03, 2015, 10:32:56 AM
Urge market around the corner , only few more days left. BLUR end burning period will be reached in aprox 5 days/Block 60200. I2P was implemented because of fud and anonymity questioning and was never part of roadmap. i can only say one thing:
"life is good"
Stop arguing like little kids for candies there is enough for all of us.
, only few more days left. BLUR end burning period will be reached in aprox 5 days/Block 60200. I2P was implemented because of fud and anonymity questioning and was never part of roadmap. i can only say one thing:"life is good"
Stop arguing like little kids for candies
there is enough for all of us. Great. Good answer, at least you can meet claims with respect and facts instead of childish comments
Well excited and afraid of loosing some of his investments, thats how people react to facts usually. But lets try keeping an honest approach to development, which people deserves creds for it and not.
Trolling would be considered something that is off-topic on the discussion. This is on topic, and its about i2p and that crave was not the first on getting it working. Again, childish response and totally irrelevant.
Again......sell to my buy orders and leave
May 03, 2015, 10:28:26 AM
Urge market around the corner , only few more days left. BLUR end burning period will be reached in aprox 5 days/Block 60200. I2P was implemented because of fud and anonymity questioning and was never part of roadmap. i can only say one thing:
"life is good"
Stop arguing like little kids for candies there is enough for all of us.
, only few more days left. BLUR end burning period will be reached in aprox 5 days/Block 60200. I2P was implemented because of fud and anonymity questioning and was never part of roadmap. i can only say one thing:"life is good"
Stop arguing like little kids for candies
there is enough for all of us. Great. Good answer, at least you can meet claims with respect and facts instead of childish comments
Well excited and afraid of loosing some of his investments, thats how people react to facts usually. But lets try keeping an honest approach to development, which people deserves creds for it and not.
Trolling would be considered something that is off-topic on the discussion. This is on topic, and its about i2p and that crave was not the first on getting it working. Again, childish response and totally irrelevant.
May 03, 2015, 10:23:58 AM
Urge market around the corner , only few more days left. BLUR end burning period will be reached in aprox 5 days/Block 60200. I2P was implemented because of fud and anonymity questioning and was never part of roadmap. i can only say one thing:
"life is good"
Stop arguing like little kids for candies there is enough for all of us.
, only few more days left. BLUR end burning period will be reached in aprox 5 days/Block 60200. I2P was implemented because of fud and anonymity questioning and was never part of roadmap. i can only say one thing:"life is good"
Stop arguing like little kids for candies
there is enough for all of us. Great. Good answer, at least you can meet claims with respect and facts instead of childish comments
Well excited and afraid of loosing some of his investments, thats how people react to facts usually. But lets try keeping an honest approach to development, which people deserves creds for it and not.
May 03, 2015, 10:19:25 AM
Urge market around the corner , only few more days left. BLUR end burning period will be reached in aprox 5 days/Block 60200. I2P was implemented because of fud and anonymity questioning and was never part of roadmap. i can only say one thing:
"life is good"
Stop arguing like little kids for candies there is enough for all of us.
, only few more days left. BLUR end burning period will be reached in aprox 5 days/Block 60200. I2P was implemented because of fud and anonymity questioning and was never part of roadmap. i can only say one thing:"life is good"
Stop arguing like little kids for candies
there is enough for all of us. Great. Good answer, at least you can meet claims with respect and facts instead of childish comments
Well excited and afraid of loosing some of his investments, thats how people react to facts usually. But lets try keeping an honest approach to development, which people deserves creds for it and not.
May 03, 2015, 10:18:55 AM
Urge market around the corner , only few more days left. BLUR end burning period will be reached in aprox 5 days/Block 60200. I2P was implemented because of fud and anonymity questioning and was never part of roadmap. i can only say one thing:
"life is good"
Stop arguing like little kids for candies there is enough for all of us.
, only few more days left. BLUR end burning period will be reached in aprox 5 days/Block 60200. I2P was implemented because of fud and anonymity questioning and was never part of roadmap. i can only say one thing:"life is good"
Stop arguing like little kids for candies
there is enough for all of us. Great. Good answer, at least you can meet claims with respect and facts instead of childish comments
LOL
May 03, 2015, 10:12:53 AM
Urge market around the corner , only few more days left. BLUR end burning period will be reached in aprox 5 days/Block 60200. I2P was implemented because of fud and anonymity questioning and was never part of roadmap. i can only say one thing:
"life is good"
Stop arguing like little kids for candies there is enough for all of us.
, only few more days left. BLUR end burning period will be reached in aprox 5 days/Block 60200. I2P was implemented because of fud and anonymity questioning and was never part of roadmap. i can only say one thing:"life is good"
Stop arguing like little kids for candies
there is enough for all of us. Great. Good answer, at least you can meet claims with respect and facts instead of childish comments
May 03, 2015, 10:10:08 AM
Urge market around the corner , only few more days left. BLUR end burning period will be reached in aprox 5 days/Block 60200. I2P was implemented because of fud and anonymity questioning and was never part of roadmap. i can only say one thing:
"life is good"
Stop arguing like little kids for candies there is enough for all of us.
, only few more days left. BLUR end burning period will be reached in aprox 5 days/Block 60200. I2P was implemented because of fud and anonymity questioning and was never part of roadmap. i can only say one thing:"life is good"
Stop arguing like little kids for candies
there is enough for all of us. Great. Good answer, at least you can meet claims with respect and facts instead of childish comments
May 03, 2015, 10:08:39 AM
Urge market around the corner , only few more days left. BLUR end burning period will be reached in aprox 5 days/Block 60200. I2P was implemented because of fud and anonymity questioning and was never part of roadmap. i can only say one thing:
"life is good"
Stop arguing like little kids for candies there is enough for all of us.
, only few more days left. BLUR end burning period will be reached in aprox 5 days/Block 60200. I2P was implemented because of fud and anonymity questioning and was never part of roadmap. i can only say one thing:"life is good"
Stop arguing like little kids for candies
there is enough for all of us. May 03, 2015, 10:08:24 AM
ah
time to buy more fud is starting
time to buy more fud is starting
Dude seriosly.. i think you should buy. But this is not fud as people describe it. Stop being so afraid... its good that crave have ported i2p. But crave was far from first.
open source ring a bell?
who give s fuck , its about using what's available and making it better
Absolutely! Im not saying anything else, its good that crave have ported it. But crave was not the first, so stop claiming it.
May 03, 2015, 10:07:27 AM
...
Good thoughtful questions...
ICM:
1) What's your response to people saying Crave has no
innovation and is just a copy paste thrown together?
- The only issue I see now with Crave is the annonymous part.
...
no innovations? Are you serious?
yesterday was released a wallet with native i2p network. Several coins are trying it for months without success.
And all other features as first mobile app with stake + masternodes, blur, first pos + masternodes coin?
Actually.. the current I2P implementations that are out there are not that hard to port. I ported I2P to syscoin in december 2014. Its based in GIVs work and anoncoins implementation of it which have been there for over a year.
Well, its the first coin with good distribution to have implemented it, along with pos masternodes, darkpoold, blur / asset exchange... again other coins with these features are either premined, ico or just terrible distribution. (cough syscoin)
Bullshit, anoncoin had a premine of 0.0014%. Also, they were the first to implement in-wallet i2p. Dont give cred for tech that does not belong to crave. I hold crave, but seriosly, stop with the ridiculous claims. Period.
First, I don't believe that was all that was premined.
Second,
anoncoin has an android wallet? no.
anoncoin has asset exchange? no.
anoncoin has pos masternode? no.
anoncoin has a decentralized market planned? no.
Stop trying to take away credit, where credit is due.
Your pseudo-fud attempt is annoying and doesn't hold much weight.
I2P has nothing to do with the above, its just a layer upon the rest of the code and it is not hard to port, at all. Not trying to fud. Im tired of people making false claims. I hold crave, actually its the only currency im currently holding. But please, stop with the bullshit talk.
If you hold some Crave,that's very bad news for us.It'll be better if you sell and leave.You little KID
Again you meet facts with childish comments. I will not answer your posts anymore. Fucking LOL.
I'm really really happy of it.Thanks a lot loser
May 03, 2015, 10:06:37 AM
ah
time to buy more fud is starting
time to buy more fud is starting
Dude seriosly.. i think you should buy. But this is not fud as people describe it. Stop being so afraid... its good that crave have ported i2p. But crave was far from first.
open source ring a bell?
who give s fuck , its about using what's available and making it better
May 03, 2015, 10:04:23 AM
ah
time to buy more fud is starting
time to buy more fud is starting
Dude seriosly.. i think you should buy. But this is not fud as people describe it. Stop being so afraid... its good that crave have ported i2p. But crave was far from first.
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