so shut it down and start again.
can you read? you can not shut it down.
Topic: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning - page 895. (Read 2007090 times)
can you read? you can not shut it down.
it has a major security flaw. so shut it down and start again. give back the invested eth and stop him in his tracks
i don't know much about DAO or what has really happened but as i understand it, the hack was on DAO which will then be converted to eth in 27 days?
if thats so, why not just shut the DAO down and unlink it to eth so that the thief can't get hold of the eth???
that way he gets nothing and the eth investors don't lose out
if thats so, why not just shut the DAO down and unlink it to eth so that the thief can't get hold of the eth???
that way he gets nothing and the eth investors don't lose out
you cant just "shut down" the DAO. that's the whole point of decentralized apps!
so dao is still being drained. take eth away from the dao before he can change his tokens into eth???
i don't know much about DAO or what has really happened but as i understand it, the hack was on DAO which will then be converted to eth in 27 days?
if thats so, why not just shut the DAO down and unlink it to eth so that the thief can't get hold of the eth???
that way he gets nothing and the eth investors don't lose out
if thats so, why not just shut the DAO down and unlink it to eth so that the thief can't get hold of the eth???
that way he gets nothing and the eth investors don't lose out
Why is everyone ignoring the fact ETH has just added a blacklist to the currency as some kind of "fix" to a 3rd party smart contract.
Are people really that naïve to think that this blacklist wont be exploited by political of financial bodies.
Why is ETH even getting involved in a 3rd party software bug, especially with something as controversial as a hardfork.
Now every smart contract developer can ignore BASIC UNIT TESTING and just deploy contracts cause if anything goes wrong the ETH centralized network will just add that contract to their blacklist too.
thats my point too Are people really that naïve to think that this blacklist wont be exploited by political of financial bodies.
Why is ETH even getting involved in a 3rd party software bug, especially with something as controversial as a hardfork.
Now every smart contract developer can ignore BASIC UNIT TESTING and just deploy contracts cause if anything goes wrong the ETH centralized network will just add that contract to their blacklist too.
thats not what i expected from ether
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHcLKrkwPLQ
Published on 18 Jun 2016
A live show recorded in the aftermath of the DAO's draining of funds by an unknown actor. In this show, Andreas M. Antonopoulos moderates a discussion with guests Pamela Morgan (attorney), Brian Klein (attorney) and Taylor Gerring (Ethereum Project co-founder), with live twitter Q&A and participation from the DAO slack channel.
Published on 18 Jun 2016
A live show recorded in the aftermath of the DAO's draining of funds by an unknown actor. In this show, Andreas M. Antonopoulos moderates a discussion with guests Pamela Morgan (attorney), Brian Klein (attorney) and Taylor Gerring (Ethereum Project co-founder), with live twitter Q&A and participation from the DAO slack channel.
its a very good debate......
this debade shows very well that exist a lot of confuse in the law ,its very complicated(( every state have different laws,the white paper is not so white e.t.c )) and will take months (( if ))to resolve this dispute.....
Thats really a good one. Its not that clear, like everone here wants it to be...
Fix is here:
https://github.com/ethcore/parity/commit/42478add648f2f44670c3859044d725171a33068#diff-0a229ee5988e1a97f1bb37dbb2f7028dR106
Starting from Block 1760000 which should be in around 4 days from now...
It yet has to be merged & approved though (consensus...)
https://github.com/ethcore/parity/commit/42478add648f2f44670c3859044d725171a33068#diff-0a229ee5988e1a97f1bb37dbb2f7028dR106
Starting from Block 1760000 which should be in around 4 days from now...
It yet has to be merged & approved though (consensus...)
Man. What a fiasco... Makes me wonder if its an inside job.
A Call for a Temporary Moratorium on The DAO
http://hackingdistributed.com/2016/05/27/dao-call-for-moratorium/
After this report,why they didn't shut down all the project immediately and put all the funds in cold?
http://hackingdistributed.com/2016/05/27/dao-call-for-moratorium/
After this report,why they didn't shut down all the project immediately and put all the funds in cold?
It's the same attack scheme like the last - as there are lots of instructions on the internet in the meanwhile to drain funds from the DAO - expect much more attacks shortly as long as the DAO is not fixed.
Nothing new...
Nothing new...
this seems to be getting worse by the minute then;....
Why ? It's the same shit as before, just someone else copied the attack (or maybe its the same guy again)... Even you could drain the DAO if you google for a few minutes
So why do not you do it to protect the DAO community? I am quite confused, why didnot the Eth developers do that?
Hmm thats actually a brilliant idea, why not drain it to protect the rest
As I think they'll fix it by soft/hardforking it will probably be pointless doing it, but hey.. It's sunday.. spare time...
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I ask this off topic question here, because Ethereum is supported by Jaxx-wallet. I do not know where else I could ask about it.
So. Few questions of Linux 64-bit Jaxx-wallet. Every time I create new wallet from the Jaxx-v1.0.3-linux-x64.tar.gz file, the wallet creates the same mnemonic seed. It does this also when I delete the old wallet before I create the new one. It creates the same seed even when I download the Jaxx-v1.0.3-linux-x64.tar.gz file again and create a new wallet from it.
So the seed is I gues stored somewhere, and the Jaxx-v1.0.3-linux-x64.tar.gz checks it and creates the same seed again.
How that can be avoided?
So. Few questions of Linux 64-bit Jaxx-wallet. Every time I create new wallet from the Jaxx-v1.0.3-linux-x64.tar.gz file, the wallet creates the same mnemonic seed. It does this also when I delete the old wallet before I create the new one. It creates the same seed even when I download the Jaxx-v1.0.3-linux-x64.tar.gz file again and create a new wallet from it.
So the seed is I gues stored somewhere, and the Jaxx-v1.0.3-linux-x64.tar.gz checks it and creates the same seed again.
How that can be avoided?
just dont tell me that there is another bug with priv keys
I ask this off topic question here, because Ethereum is supported by Jaxx-wallet. I do not know where else I could ask about it.
So. Few questions of Linux 64-bit Jaxx-wallet. Every time I create new wallet from the Jaxx-v1.0.3-linux-x64.tar.gz file, the wallet creates the same mnemonic seed. It does this also when I delete the old wallet before I create the new one. It creates the same seed even when I download the Jaxx-v1.0.3-linux-x64.tar.gz file again and create a new wallet from it.
So the seed is I gues stored somewhere, and the Jaxx-v1.0.3-linux-x64.tar.gz checks it and creates the same seed again.
How that can be avoided?
So. Few questions of Linux 64-bit Jaxx-wallet. Every time I create new wallet from the Jaxx-v1.0.3-linux-x64.tar.gz file, the wallet creates the same mnemonic seed. It does this also when I delete the old wallet before I create the new one. It creates the same seed even when I download the Jaxx-v1.0.3-linux-x64.tar.gz file again and create a new wallet from it.
So the seed is I gues stored somewhere, and the Jaxx-v1.0.3-linux-x64.tar.gz checks it and creates the same seed again.
How that can be avoided?
It's the same attack scheme like the last - as there are lots of instructions on the internet in the meanwhile to drain funds from the DAO - expect much more attacks shortly as long as the DAO is not fixed.
Nothing new...
Nothing new...
this seems to be getting worse by the minute then;....
Why ? It's the same shit as before, just someone else copied the attack (or maybe its the same guy again)... Even you could drain the DAO if you google for a few minutes
So why do not you do it to protect the DAO community? I am quite confused, why didnot the Eth developers do that?
It's the same attack scheme like the last - as there are lots of instructions on the internet in the meanwhile to drain funds from the DAO - expect much more attacks shortly as long as the DAO is not fixed.
Nothing new...
Nothing new...
this seems to be getting worse by the minute then;....
Why ? It's the same shit as before, just someone else copied the attack (or maybe its the same guy again)... Even you could drain the DAO if you google for a few minutes
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It's the same attack scheme like the last - as there are lots of instructions on the internet in the meanwhile to drain funds from the DAO - expect much more attacks shortly as long as the DAO is not fixed.
Nothing new...
Nothing new...
this seems to be getting worse by the minute then;....
It's the same attack scheme like the last - as there are lots of instructions on the internet in the meanwhile to drain funds from the DAO - expect much more attacks shortly as long as the DAO is not fixed.
Nothing new...
Nothing new...
Second independant successfull attack within the last hour
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/4ot3vi/warning_another_successful_attack_recursive_split/
this is coming in by the minute
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/4ot3vi/warning_another_successful_attack_recursive_split/
this is coming in by the minute
Do you mean the second overall attack has just happened, or that there was 2 attacks which both happened in the last hour?
Why cannot the DAO developers move the rest of the tokens to an account and freeze that? That will prevent further attack.
I happen to have two proposals running. Their 7 days periods will be over on Monday and Tuesday. If those proposals can be used for a white hat attack in order to save funds I'd be happy to provide them (for a small fee).
But those big holder should have many accounts and they can use those to move (attack) the Ethereum to protect it.
Why cannot the DAO developers move the rest of the tokens to an account and freeze that? That will prevent further attack.
I happen to have two proposals running. Their 7 days periods will be over on Monday and Tuesday. If those proposals can be used for a white hat attack in order to save funds I'd be happy to provide them (for a small fee).
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