[ANN] FutureBit Project Apollo: Bringing ASIC Mining Back to the Home Miner! - page 25.

toptek12

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Quote from: whitesites on August 28, 2018, 10:15:31 PM

Am I missing something?
Scrypt at 140 Mh/s and 200 Watts only profits 9 cents / day
At least that is whattomine.com says.

What is the current profitability of this?

he right it's not meant for RoI more to get you into mining or solo mining set it an run it an hope it hits a block .

jstefanop

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Quote from: Globalminingcorp on October 13, 2018, 08:54:57 AM

Hi jstefanop ,

Any update on this nice project?

Check the order thread, all order/shipping updates are there.

Globalminingcorp

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Hi jstefanop ,

Any update on this nice project?

aarons6

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Quote from: WaterTower on October 02, 2018, 10:37:08 PM

What do you guys think of this PSU for the miner?

https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-ATX-1953D-ATX-1956D-ATX-1956-B1-ATX-1956F/dp/B0107CIJP8?pd_rd_wg=o923z&pd_rd_r=248d0b3c-92ed-48ea-9d2d-37dd0f12bc64&pd_rd_w=cvCM7&ref_=pd_gw_simh&pf_rd_r=YCZQG8EYE7V5JH4GNH4N&pf_rd_p=b841581f-e864-5164-afa6-4c18a8348879

no it looks cheap.. never cheap out on a PSU..

always go with a name brand, and avoid seasonic.. ive had 2 of those melt on me and almost catch on fire.

evga is a good brand.. awesome warranty and very reliable.
also you can probably find a good deal on the HP 1200W server powersupply. or just get a bitmain power supply APW7.. i have one of each of those and they seem pretty well built. altho running one of these pods on those power supplies is a tad over kill.. they would probably do 5 of them pretty easy.

jarvisparvis

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To be honest i wouldnt...

my reasons to run one apollo would be inefficient as youd only need 250 watts max
run two apollos in eco mode maybe... but i still wouldnt these arent the most stable types of psu's

at this stage this is obviously speculative and until ive use an apollo for a while couldnt really be 100% sure.

Id err on the side of caution look at hp or dell server psus and a breakout board (basically and adapter for 6 pin pcie leads) some refurbed bargains around and theyre very efficient, stable and built to be longterm work horses.

WaterTower

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What do you guys think of this PSU for the miner?

https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-ATX-1953D-ATX-1956D-ATX-1956-B1-ATX-1956F/dp/B0107CIJP8?pd_rd_wg=o923z&pd_rd_r=248d0b3c-92ed-48ea-9d2d-37dd0f12bc64&pd_rd_w=cvCM7&ref_=pd_gw_simh&pf_rd_r=YCZQG8EYE7V5JH4GNH4N&pf_rd_p=b841581f-e864-5164-afa6-4c18a8348879

crypto_curious

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Quote from: jarvisparvis on October 02, 2018, 02:44:57 PM

Quote from: jstefanop on October 01, 2018, 05:27:25 PM

Quote from: jarvisparvis on September 30, 2018, 02:25:21 PM

Obviously some components will have to be from China like asics they seem at the cutting edge with cheap manufacturing would make sense to keep the cost down. But if your gonna suffer from the raise in tariffs on stuff from China might be better possibly cheaper to have the shipped to Europe and forwarded to USA may be an indirect way but may be cheaper than the tariffs.

Yea we got the ASICs in so were set to at least start production on the PCB. Only bottleneck right now coming from china is the MCU and Fan. Even if we sent the shipments to Europe, they are still subject to a 17% import fee there regardless....trade sucks right now :/

Either way this at most adds 1-2 weeks delay, so worst case well start shipping beginning of november.

I can live with that. Obviously eager to get hold of mine but rather wait and get a quality product like the moonlander2s are

Same here.

I just started home mining with few Moonlanders, I've ordered another small USB hub, so I will have moonlanders mining nicely at home. When Apollo is ready and absolutely stable and polished, I will welcome it to my family

I placed order for two Apollos in this batch. I will wait patiently

jarvisparvis

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Quote from: jstefanop on October 01, 2018, 05:27:25 PM

Quote from: jarvisparvis on September 30, 2018, 02:25:21 PM

Obviously some components will have to be from China like asics they seem at the cutting edge with cheap manufacturing would make sense to keep the cost down. But if your gonna suffer from the raise in tariffs on stuff from China might be better possibly cheaper to have the shipped to Europe and forwarded to USA may be an indirect way but may be cheaper than the tariffs.

Yea we got the ASICs in so were set to at least start production on the PCB. Only bottleneck right now coming from china is the MCU and Fan. Even if we sent the shipments to Europe, they are still subject to a 17% import fee there regardless....trade sucks right now :/

Either way this at most adds 1-2 weeks delay, so worst case well start shipping beginning of november.

I can live with that. Obviously eager to get hold of mine but rather wait and get a quality product like the moonlander2s are

drakedave

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Hi guys,

Too bad the preorder is finished, if ever somebody changed its mind and don't want his miner anymore just PM, I'm really interested.
If not I'll wait for the next batch Wink

By the way, I've 2 moonlanders 2 and ordered 3 more and I'm so thrilled to be able to mine at home with such great little machines Grin

, thank you so much !!

jstefanop

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Quote from: jarvisparvis on September 30, 2018, 02:25:21 PM

Obviously some components will have to be from China like asics they seem at the cutting edge with cheap manufacturing would make sense to keep the cost down. But if your gonna suffer from the raise in tariffs on stuff from China might be better possibly cheaper to have the shipped to Europe and forwarded to USA may be an indirect way but may be cheaper than the tariffs.

Yea we got the ASICs in so were set to at least start production on the PCB. Only bottleneck right now coming from china is the MCU and Fan. Even if we sent the shipments to Europe, they are still subject to a 17% import fee there regardless....trade sucks right now :/

Either way this at most adds 1-2 weeks delay, so worst case well start shipping beginning of november.

gvb

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that was my point actually.

if you can do it in europe you don't have the double costs of shipping to the US and back and additional import taxes that might come with it.

jarvisparvis

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Obviously some components will have to be from China like asics they seem at the cutting edge with cheap manufacturing would make sense to keep the cost down. But if your gonna suffer from the raise in tariffs on stuff from China might be better possibly cheaper to have the shipped to Europe and forwarded to USA may be an indirect way but may be cheaper than the tariffs.

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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.

Quote from: gvb on September 30, 2018, 12:59:33 PM

Quote from: jstefanop on September 24, 2018, 12:17:42 PM

these are getting manufactures in the states

Which means you're in europe?

Are there no companies in europe that can build the PCBs when they have the parts?

No.

'In the states' means in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Wink

gvb

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Quote from: jstefanop on September 24, 2018, 12:17:42 PM

these are getting manufactures in the states

Which means you're in europe?

Are there no companies in europe that can build the PCBs when they have the parts?

jstefanop

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Quote from: philipma1957 on September 22, 2018, 11:52:58 AM

Time line on first shipment?

First units wont start shipping out until end of October, and since these are getting manufactures in the states were running into issues with the new import taxes and trying to figure out how to minimize them. Some of our overseas components timeline could be impacted by it, but Ill have a better idea when units will start shipping by next week.

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Time line on first shipment?

FFI2013

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Well this sucks the pre-order is sold out do you have a estimate for next batch I can't believe I missed this somehow

Chicago

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Quote from: shotgun1969 on September 21, 2018, 04:50:02 PM

all of them have a rpcthreads call and it is much faster cause you dont have a middle man to fumble the block and it
is much easier to set up than a stratum pool and coin daemon. you only need to set up the conf file in the coin daemon
to get it to put out getwork.
i believe those wallets that need a pool only to mine are centerlized wallets in you have to have a pool to mine them.
decenteralized wallets are wallets anyone can http in a miner and solo the wallet.

Luckycoin is one example which does not have an rpcthreads call.

Yes, you're absolutely right it is much easier to use getwork with http than it is to support stratum mining.

Nonetheless, the reason getblocktemplate supercedes getwork is because with getwork the miner is kept in the dark as to what is actually in the block and has no influence over it.

According to the Bitcoin Wiki, "getwork protocol only provides a single block header, which is sufficient for a total of about 4 GH of mining" and I know that is in terms of double sha256 and I'm not certain what it would be sufficient for with regards to Scrypt.

Best Regards,
-Chicago

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Quote from: Chicago on September 21, 2018, 04:44:45 PM

Quote from: shotgun1969 on September 21, 2018, 04:19:54 PM

when you solo the wallet there is no shares there is only blocks hit. i can aim multiple asics at one wallet via http and the wallet
will hand out the same work to each miner. the shares thing is the only way to figure out how to cut the block up via stratum
pool and make it fair.
90-95% of all the scrypt wallets dont need a stratum pool to mine them locally.

   To each their own I guess.

   I would rather have an idle coin daemon with fewer RPC calls to it so that when a block is found it can get broadcast to the network immediately.
   It sounds to me like way to much overhead to use getwork in 2018 w/ 25 different USB miners.

   Some of those old scrypt coins don't even have an rpcthreads argument to help improve the situation.

Best Regards,
-Chicago

all of them have a rpcthreads call and it is much faster cause you dont have a middle man to fumble the block and it
is much easier to set up than a stratum pool and coin daemon. you only need to set up the conf file in the coin daemon
to get it to put out getwork.
i believe those wallets that need a pool only to mine are centerlized wallets in you have to have a pool to mine them.
decenteralized wallets are wallets anyone can http in a miner and solo the wallet.

Chicago

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Quote from: shotgun1969 on September 21, 2018, 04:19:54 PM

when you solo the wallet there is no shares there is only blocks hit. i can aim multiple asics at one wallet via http and the wallet
will hand out the same work to each miner. the shares thing is the only way to figure out how to cut the block up via stratum
pool and make it fair.
90-95% of all the scrypt wallets dont need a stratum pool to mine them locally.

To each their own I guess.

I would rather have an idle coin daemon with fewer RPC calls to it so that when a block is found it can get broadcast to the network immediately.
It sounds to me like way to much overhead to use getwork in 2018 w/ 25 different USB miners.

Some of those old scrypt coins don't even have an rpcthreads argument to help improve the situation.

Best Regards,
-Chicago

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