[ANN] FutureBit Project Apollo: Bringing ASIC Mining Back to the Home Miner! - page 26.

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Quote from: Chicago on September 21, 2018, 12:39:49 PM

Quote from: shotgun1969 on September 20, 2018, 01:23:41 PM

i was wondering about the same thing. i am hoping in your web interface we need the full address of the wallet or pool.
ie
http://192.165.0.2:3389
stratum+tcp://bills.pool.com:3389
that would be super if its done that way. thanks

most of the other manufactors get hung up on making you only put a strattum address nothing else.

Hi shotgun1969,

You see it that way because otherwise you could only solo mine with one miner.
The reason the stratum protocol is there is so that a pool may divide the work among miners who solve shares.

-- and since the vision is a decentralized pool of miners, there has to be a protocol to enable the miners to get work.

Best Regards,
-Chicago

when you solo the wallet there is no shares there is only blocks hit. i can aim multiple asics at one wallet via http and the wallet
will hand out the same work to each miner. the shares thing is the only way to figure out how to cut the block up via stratum
pool and make it fair.
90-95% of all the scrypt wallets dont need a stratum pool to mine them locally.

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Quote from: jstefanop on September 21, 2018, 12:34:54 PM

Quote from: shotgun1969 on September 20, 2018, 01:23:41 PM

Quote from: jstefanop on September 20, 2018, 10:59:10 AM

Quote from: Chicago on September 20, 2018, 07:36:32 AM

Hello,

Power to the independent miners.

Ideally, the centralized mining cartel which is comprised of for-profit miners dumping into the markets can be overthrown.

The price point on these scrypt ASICs is just fine for any newcomer.

Can you tell us more about the platform's capabilities?
You mentioned a quad-core A7 ARM based controller.

What I would like to do is assemble a small swarm of them which report to a local P2Pool and coin daemon.

What's in the image for the controller currently?
Where are the sources for any modified miner which is required by them?

If some high quality work is contributed to help improve the platform software to give new buyers an easy way to join a P2Pool with their Apollo miners, would it be accepted upstream and be included in future images?

I'm looking for a way to do two things well.

1.) provide the common man an easy to use accessible miner which doesn't sound like a jet engine
2.) customize the control interface with retail branding and support options

Would love to hear your thoughts about the expectations new mom and pop miners may have with regards to support.

Best Regards,
-Chicago

Yes this is exactly what I intended to do with this platform. Probably wont make it into the initial image release, but eventual I want to give people the ability to run full nodes and connect to a p2pool for a true decentralized mining ecosystem.

Definitely send me a PM if this is something your interested in, I'm looking for more software devs for the UI side of things.

i was wondering about the same thing. i am hoping in your web interface we need the full address of the wallet or pool.
ie
http://192.165.0.2:3389
stratum+tcp://bills.pool.com:3389
that would be super if its done that way. thanks

most of the other manufactors get hung up on making you only put a strattum address nothing else.

Miner still needs stratum responses though, as long as the pool/website is configured for the protocol should not matter what what the URL formatting is.

i normale dont mine pools and i usually just solo the wallets. i have 35+ moonlanders doing just that. i am not sure what you mean by the miner needs
stratum responses. bfgminer uses getwork via http addressing. so the only thing i am asking is if you leave out the address all together i should be able
to solo wallets via http or pools via stratum. thanks for your response.

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Quote from: shotgun1969 on September 20, 2018, 01:23:41 PM

i was wondering about the same thing. i am hoping in your web interface we need the full address of the wallet or pool.
ie
http://192.165.0.2:3389
stratum+tcp://bills.pool.com:3389
that would be super if its done that way. thanks

most of the other manufactors get hung up on making you only put a strattum address nothing else.

Hi shotgun1969,

You see it that way because otherwise you could only solo mine with one miner.
The reason the stratum protocol is there is so that a pool may divide the work among miners who solve shares.

-- and since the vision is a decentralized pool of miners, there has to be a protocol to enable the miners to get work.

Best Regards,
-Chicago

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Quote from: shotgun1969 on September 20, 2018, 01:23:41 PM

Quote from: jstefanop on September 20, 2018, 10:59:10 AM

Quote from: Chicago on September 20, 2018, 07:36:32 AM

Hello,

   Power to the independent miners.

   Ideally, the centralized mining cartel which is comprised of for-profit miners dumping into the markets can be overthrown.

   The price point on these scrypt ASICs is just fine for any newcomer.

   Can you tell us more about the platform's capabilities?
   You mentioned a quad-core A7 ARM based controller.

   What I would like to do is assemble a small swarm of them which report to a local P2Pool and coin daemon.

   What's in the image for the controller currently?
   Where are the sources for any modified miner which is required by them?

   If some high quality work is contributed to help improve the platform software to give new buyers an easy way to join a P2Pool with their Apollo miners, would it be accepted upstream and be included in future images?

   I'm looking for a way to do two things well.

   1.) provide the common man an easy to use accessible miner which doesn't sound like a jet engine
   2.) customize the control interface with retail branding and support options

   Would love to hear your thoughts about the expectations new mom and pop miners may have with regards to support.

Best Regards,
-Chicago

Yes this is exactly what I intended to do with this platform. Probably wont make it into the initial image release, but eventual I want to give people the ability to run full nodes and connect to a p2pool for a true decentralized mining ecosystem.

Definitely send me a PM if this is something your interested in, I'm looking for more software devs for the UI side of things.

i was wondering about the same thing. i am hoping in your web interface we need the full address of the wallet or pool.
ie
http://192.165.0.2:3389
stratum+tcp://bills.pool.com:3389
that would be super if its done that way. thanks

most of the other manufactors get hung up on making you only put a strattum address nothing else.

Miner still needs stratum responses though, as long as the pool/website is configured for the protocol should not matter what what the URL formatting is.

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Quote from: jstefanop on September 20, 2018, 10:59:10 AM

Quote from: Chicago on September 20, 2018, 07:36:32 AM

Hello,

   Power to the independent miners.

   Ideally, the centralized mining cartel which is comprised of for-profit miners dumping into the markets can be overthrown.

   The price point on these scrypt ASICs is just fine for any newcomer.

   Can you tell us more about the platform's capabilities?
   You mentioned a quad-core A7 ARM based controller.

   What I would like to do is assemble a small swarm of them which report to a local P2Pool and coin daemon.

   What's in the image for the controller currently?
   Where are the sources for any modified miner which is required by them?

   If some high quality work is contributed to help improve the platform software to give new buyers an easy way to join a P2Pool with their Apollo miners, would it be accepted upstream and be included in future images?

   I'm looking for a way to do two things well.

   1.) provide the common man an easy to use accessible miner which doesn't sound like a jet engine
   2.) customize the control interface with retail branding and support options

   Would love to hear your thoughts about the expectations new mom and pop miners may have with regards to support.

Best Regards,
-Chicago

Yes this is exactly what I intended to do with this platform. Probably wont make it into the initial image release, but eventual I want to give people the ability to run full nodes and connect to a p2pool for a true decentralized mining ecosystem.

Definitely send me a PM if this is something your interested in, I'm looking for more software devs for the UI side of things.

i was wondering about the same thing. i am hoping in your web interface we need the full address of the wallet or pool.
ie
http://192.165.0.2:3389
stratum+tcp://bills.pool.com:3389
that would be super if its done that way. thanks

most of the other manufactors get hung up on making you only put a strattum address nothing else.

jstefanop

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Quote from: Chicago on September 20, 2018, 07:36:32 AM

Hello,

Power to the independent miners.

Ideally, the centralized mining cartel which is comprised of for-profit miners dumping into the markets can be overthrown.

The price point on these scrypt ASICs is just fine for any newcomer.

Can you tell us more about the platform's capabilities?
You mentioned a quad-core A7 ARM based controller.

What I would like to do is assemble a small swarm of them which report to a local P2Pool and coin daemon.

What's in the image for the controller currently?
Where are the sources for any modified miner which is required by them?

If some high quality work is contributed to help improve the platform software to give new buyers an easy way to join a P2Pool with their Apollo miners, would it be accepted upstream and be included in future images?

I'm looking for a way to do two things well.

1.) provide the common man an easy to use accessible miner which doesn't sound like a jet engine
2.) customize the control interface with retail branding and support options

Would love to hear your thoughts about the expectations new mom and pop miners may have with regards to support.

Best Regards,
-Chicago

Yes this is exactly what I intended to do with this platform. Probably wont make it into the initial image release, but eventual I want to give people the ability to run full nodes and connect to a p2pool for a true decentralized mining ecosystem.

Definitely send me a PM if this is something your interested in, I'm looking for more software devs for the UI side of things.

Chicago

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Hello,

Power to the independent miners.

Ideally, the centralized mining cartel which is comprised of for-profit miners dumping into the markets can be overthrown.

The price point on these scrypt ASICs is just fine for any newcomer.

Can you tell us more about the platform's capabilities?
You mentioned a quad-core A7 ARM based controller.

What I would like to do is assemble a small swarm of them which report to a local P2Pool and coin daemon.

What's in the image for the controller currently?
Where are the sources for any modified miner which is required by them?

If some high quality work is contributed to help improve the platform software to give new buyers an easy way to join a P2Pool with their Apollo miners, would it be accepted upstream and be included in future images?

I'm looking for a way to do two things well.

1.) provide the common man an easy to use accessible miner which doesn't sound like a jet engine
2.) customize the control interface with retail branding and support options

Would love to hear your thoughts about the expectations new mom and pop miners may have with regards to support.

Best Regards,
-Chicago

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Quote from: jarvisparvis on September 17, 2018, 01:34:01 PM

Are the 6 pin pcie sockets on the apollo standard size or mini?

They are standard GPU type pcie 12v connectors that come with ATX PSUs

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Are the 6 pin pcie sockets on the apollo standard size or mini?

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Quote from: jarvisparvis on September 17, 2018, 11:11:44 AM

[https://ibb.co/cKqnSK][/https://ibb.co/cKqnSK]

Already to rock and roll economically. Bring on October.

Just a note it say 12.4 on the readout presume its the volts will that be fine?

Yea regulator in the miner can handle a pretty wide 12v range.

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[https://ibb.co/cKqnSK][/https://ibb.co/cKqnSK]

Already to rock and roll economically. Bring on October.

Just a note it say 12.4 on the readout presume its the volts will that be fine?

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Quote from: Globalminingcorp on September 15, 2018, 03:26:38 AM

Ordered one and looking forward to play with this device!

Pre-Order is almost filled up and most likely ending after this weekend FYI. So last chance to pick one up at pre-order price!

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Ordered one and looking forward to play with this device!

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Quote from: jarvisparvis on September 10, 2018, 11:50:51 AM

Quote from: dwood443 on September 08, 2018, 06:12:53 PM

Quote from: jstefanop on September 08, 2018, 04:55:13 PM

Quote from: CharlieFoxtrot on September 08, 2018, 10:03:47 AM

Thanks for the quick response guys. I'm searching ebay and amazon for the requisite power supply. I'm running into difficulty finding a 6 pin PCI-e.
I have until October though.

Yea 250 watts is just be being generous. Always add at least an 20% margin on top of the wattage you will be running at. So if your not planning to go past 100 watts on these and run them on eco mode, all you would need is a 120 watt PSU. The MAX you would eve need for one of these is ~240 watts if your running them at 200 watts.

Problem is all good consumer power bricks usually only go to ~ 100 watts so I couldn't really bundle one of those with the miner which was my original plan for these to be complete plug in play. Anything in the 200 watt range are those shitty chinese aluminum screw PSUs, and then past that your in the ATX PSU territory.

Im going to do some research and see if I can source a good ~250 watt for people just wanting to run one, otherwise if your running 2+ you might as well get a good 500 watt server or ATX PSU.

Thanks, this will be helpful

Apollo is ordered. Also hoping to get this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Switching-Power-Supply-750W-DPS-750AB-3-A-HSTNS-PD29-643955-101/153066774374?hash=item23a37d9f66:g:VDwAAOSwbzVbKBm4 plus a breakout board.

Should be ok for upto 3 in future.?

Yea server PSU + breakout board is always a safe bet...youll get really high efficiency and reliable PSU. That could run 3 as long as your not running them all full speed.

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Quote from: dwood443 on September 08, 2018, 06:12:53 PM

Quote from: jstefanop on September 08, 2018, 04:55:13 PM

Quote from: CharlieFoxtrot on September 08, 2018, 10:03:47 AM

Thanks for the quick response guys. I'm searching ebay and amazon for the requisite power supply. I'm running into difficulty finding a 6 pin PCI-e.
I have until October though.

Yea 250 watts is just be being generous. Always add at least an 20% margin on top of the wattage you will be running at. So if your not planning to go past 100 watts on these and run them on eco mode, all you would need is a 120 watt PSU. The MAX you would eve need for one of these is ~240 watts if your running them at 200 watts.

Problem is all good consumer power bricks usually only go to ~ 100 watts so I couldn't really bundle one of those with the miner which was my original plan for these to be complete plug in play. Anything in the 200 watt range are those shitty chinese aluminum screw PSUs, and then past that your in the ATX PSU territory.

Im going to do some research and see if I can source a good ~250 watt for people just wanting to run one, otherwise if your running 2+ you might as well get a good 500 watt server or ATX PSU.

Thanks, this will be helpful

Apollo is ordered. Also hoping to get this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Switching-Power-Supply-750W-DPS-750AB-3-A-HSTNS-PD29-643955-101/153066774374?hash=item23a37d9f66:g:VDwAAOSwbzVbKBm4 plus a breakout board.

Should be ok for upto 3 in future.?

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Quote from: jstefanop on September 08, 2018, 04:55:13 PM

Quote from: CharlieFoxtrot on September 08, 2018, 10:03:47 AM

Thanks for the quick response guys. I'm searching ebay and amazon for the requisite power supply. I'm running into difficulty finding a 6 pin PCI-e.
I have until October though.

Yea 250 watts is just be being generous. Always add at least an 20% margin on top of the wattage you will be running at. So if your not planning to go past 100 watts on these and run them on eco mode, all you would need is a 120 watt PSU. The MAX you would eve need for one of these is ~240 watts if your running them at 200 watts.

Problem is all good consumer power bricks usually only go to ~ 100 watts so I couldn't really bundle one of those with the miner which was my original plan for these to be complete plug in play. Anything in the 200 watt range are those shitty chinese aluminum screw PSUs, and then past that your in the ATX PSU territory.

Im going to do some research and see if I can source a good ~250 watt for people just wanting to run one, otherwise if your running 2+ you might as well get a good 500 watt server or ATX PSU.

That would help a lot. Good looking out for us. Thanks!

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Quote from: jstefanop on September 08, 2018, 04:55:13 PM

Quote from: CharlieFoxtrot on September 08, 2018, 10:03:47 AM

Thanks for the quick response guys. I'm searching ebay and amazon for the requisite power supply. I'm running into difficulty finding a 6 pin PCI-e.
I have until October though.

Yea 250 watts is just be being generous. Always add at least an 20% margin on top of the wattage you will be running at. So if your not planning to go past 100 watts on these and run them on eco mode, all you would need is a 120 watt PSU. The MAX you would eve need for one of these is ~240 watts if your running them at 200 watts.

Problem is all good consumer power bricks usually only go to ~ 100 watts so I couldn't really bundle one of those with the miner which was my original plan for these to be complete plug in play. Anything in the 200 watt range are those shitty chinese aluminum screw PSUs, and then past that your in the ATX PSU territory.

Im going to do some research and see if I can source a good ~250 watt for people just wanting to run one, otherwise if your running 2+ you might as well get a good 500 watt server or ATX PSU.

Thanks, this will be helpful

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Quote from: CharlieFoxtrot on September 08, 2018, 10:03:47 AM

Thanks for the quick response guys. I'm searching ebay and amazon for the requisite power supply. I'm running into difficulty finding a 6 pin PCI-e.
I have until October though.

Yea 250 watts is just be being generous. Always add at least an 20% margin on top of the wattage you will be running at. So if your not planning to go past 100 watts on these and run them on eco mode, all you would need is a 120 watt PSU. The MAX you would eve need for one of these is ~240 watts if your running them at 200 watts.

Problem is all good consumer power bricks usually only go to ~ 100 watts so I couldn't really bundle one of those with the miner which was my original plan for these to be complete plug in play. Anything in the 200 watt range are those shitty chinese aluminum screw PSUs, and then past that your in the ATX PSU territory.

Im going to do some research and see if I can source a good ~250 watt for people just wanting to run one, otherwise if your running 2+ you might as well get a good 500 watt server or ATX PSU.

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Thanks for the quick response guys. I'm searching ebay and amazon for the requisite power supply. I'm running into difficulty finding a 6 pin PCI-e.
I have until October though.

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Quote from: crypto_curious on September 08, 2018, 04:54:13 AM

Quote from: CharlieFoxtrot on September 07, 2018, 06:01:40 PM

One of the requirements is:

At least a 250 watt 12v power supply with a 6 Pin PCIE connector is required.

I could use some help sourcing this. Does anyone have any recommendations or suggestions?

I looked on eBay and there are a lot of power supplies offered.

I did find this one though:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-659193-001-Elite-8200-RP5800-240W-6-Pin-Desktop-Power-Supply/202373513718?hash=item2f1e66c1f6:g:UeIAAOSwhclbT6Fj
Would this work?

Any help would be appreciated.

Technically: no, it will not. It's 240Watt and you said yourself 250Watt is needed.
Buy ANY desktop ATX PSU with minimum 250Watt, with at least one 6-pin PCI-E connector.

You can power them even with your rig PSU (if watts enough). I plan use them on ECO mode, only 100w.

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