Topic: [ANN] HAT.Exchange - The True P2P Experience | IFS Rewards | BETA (Q3 2018) - page 7. (Read 57196 times)

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I have chased the elusive TekSystems a third time, as I have yet to receive confirmation. At this stage I'd say it's safe to say they aren't willing to divulge the information directly, and we must rely on blind faith.

Personally, if it were my face on their website - I would want to make certain that people were aware it was a legitimate project, as to not be guilty by association. That said, as they're hired help they certainly aren't at liberty to provide me any details unless instructed to do so. That's not to say that the project is an out-right "scam", but just another one of many "holes".

Throughout there have been many inconsistencies, dubious happenings and a complete lack of professionalism; given the current state of play and regardless of what the team thinks of my views/attitude - I still firmly believe the onus is on the team to diffuse the situation, but alas thus far their attitude has been "FUD Campaign" muh!

When in actual fact, it's more a case of concern and highlighting the holes that the team created all by themselves. Moreover, the holes have been so glaringly obvious that it was inevitable that someone was going to call them out on it.

I've relayed these thoughts to Edward the team "advisor" in private, and I know there's a few dedicated people still holding the team in high regards - but genuinely this campaign as they like to refer to it, has been nothing more than your own doing. Regardless of your cavalier attitude stating "investors" don't matter, we have no say etc etc - the contempt you hold and clearly demonstrate for any potential users of your project has been evident throughout - so it is no wonder that when you make mistakes people are quick to point the finger.

Which is why you should be squeaky clean and cut the crap - instead you appear to have gone dark/stealth i.e. website/blog has been cleaned of all traces of previous wrongdoing and instant bans for basically anyone who dare question your project in any capacity.

There were numerous comments made in December 2017 by your own admin team regarding legal teams, MSB licenses, trademarks, Venture Capital funding which never came to fruition and when push came to shove it was absolutely clear that little of that was true.

The team created this atmosphere of contempt whilst luring people with statements of grandeur, so you cannot blame us for being frustrated when people are let down by your (in my opinion) half baked reveal and announcements. When you make promises and statements like you have in the past, which then turn out to be misguided and false you create problems only for yourselves.

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In addition I note your new whitepaper states "privately funded" - quite comical considering yes you were, by naive prospectors like myself buying your token. I guess the crux is that you were for all intents and purposes an ICO by any other name i.e. you dropped tokens, played the market to up the price, sold tokens on the back of false hope and promises and only when you had the funds from "investors" did you suddenly acquire a legal team and actually begin the motions of setting up an actual company.

This silence is killing this project people are losing their patience and dumping price to low but it is hard for those who bought this token at the top. Before swap it was looking nice and things are moving forward nicely but suddenly and this head to downward. Just waiting and watching this on going situation.

I like the idea behind this coin. I do not own any. Still doing my initial research on it. I read a lot of red flags. So did some research.

so hat.exchange says the team behind HAT.Exchange is available on the website of the holding company, Bynary Inc. or http://bynaryinc.com/

People behind it are
Zeeshan Masood CEO/CTO
Navaid Yusuf    Board Director
Omer Masood   Board Director  programmer, architect, designer
Sean Pettersen Board Director
Mario Suwandy Head of Design
www.stahlcowen.com as the legal firm representing them.

now out of the above-listed guys, I have information for first 2.

Zeeshan Masood (Treasurer )& Navaid Yusuf (President) had  WORLDTRADECORP registered in Nevada (2001)
Current Company Status  Permanently Revoked    Company number   C24070-2001NV
Navaid Yusuf(President) had MICRONIX registered in Nevada (2001)
Current Company Status  Permanently Revoked    Company number   C26733-2001NV

Zeeshan Masood used to own Togglewave LLC Forfeited existence  
Currently (President) Reach Communications Inc. CA, TX   JUSTYAP

current personal addresses are for Irving TX 75063 and Elk Grove CA 95624


I don't think this can be a scam since it would be the most stupid one. If I can have phone numbers, addresses and another personal history in a day everyone else can too.

Just an opinion that'll probably get deleted but looking back at things that have happened with this coin consider this.  If someone were to scam and try to make it seem like a legit project or avoid legal issues this could be a possibility.  One thing I've noticed is they have more telegram users than they do wallets almost by 2 to 1, also noting their reddit has hardly anyone.  So bought telegram user to create an illusion of a strong following.  Next they have announced very disappointing news that was hyped and delayed possibly to entice buyers.  Now every step since I've been in this coin seemed like hurdles have always been in the way of selling.  Tolken swaps that I believe people are still waiting on, the incentive of staking that you can't withdraw and to add once your coins were in Alpha wallet there was no way of withdrawing.  Next was the Mew decimal mistake.  In their telegram group the admins kept saying over and over just add a new coin with the decimals being correct and name it hat2.  Never worked for me even though I've added several coins in Mew and even tested other coins.  Couple people in telegram  said they got it to work but I'm convinced at this point it was admin's second accounts or paid accounts.  Next came the beta wallet (people having problems receiving the link)which I was pretty sure they said if you apply for it you would be able to withdraw which was not true also adding if you wanted to withdraw you're staking profits you had to KYC which is bizarre.  Finally i had to use the method provided by a user in bitcoin talk to send my tokens to the exchange.  I'm out and sold finally but looking back how great would it be to make it very difficult for people to sell with all these hurdles pump news about releasing names of dev's (which turned out to be bogus) and try and create buy volume that devs and telegram admins could sell into without competition from tolken holders.  There has been more drama surrounding this coin that I've missed but please, add more to this thread of hurdles created by hawala to suppress sell volume.

Can't see big updates yet on Hat's website, also i have a friend who's in a big problem, he can't swap his old tokens into the new ones, the ANN too isn't updated yet! And everything looks messedup here! I surely think that this is a scam, not fudding but at least, when  you start a project, work to make it look perfect and especially, respond to member's pm's !

I will like to add an update that i sent a pm op, went on their website and sent an email to customer service and i have yet to receive a reply.

Honestly no i didn't. i guess i should have tried that first before yapping. Thanks for bringing me back from fudiville. I did wait 4 days before yapping though, so that should be worth something

the coinswap was quite a long time ago. Maybe they are not checking it or sending them anymore? I do remember my one took a while before i got them also though and the dev was helpful when i messaged him and sent them the next day. Did you try PM to the dev to see if they can assist you too yet?

i wish i visited hawala BTCtalk thread before sending my token in for the coinswap to ifs. I was just going thru my old bookmarks and saw an announcement for the coin swap and just sent the old coins in immediately. it's been 4 days and am yet to receive the new coins. Oh well, it was just airdropped coins but it was worth approx $250 and that was two weeks grocery there.

It worked. Thank you for sharing this information.

I should have listened to you sooner.

The Big announcement for end of Q1 is also overdue again a week   

I was warning everybody that this project is a scam, long time ago. Nobody believed me and here is the result. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.27190031  

Growing fast?  -300 Members in Telegram since 1 Month 

Staking is "offline" since 1 month!

Telegram is working - no issues 4/3/2018

The company is young but very promising , and community is growing fast. I advise everyone to follow news of the project! Nice referal program!

It's April the 3rd, and it seems that the telegram group was deleted... Am I right? Is it still accessible?

It's good that the project is developing, there will soon be a growth of the coin and we will get a certain profit.

Sure, there are big improvements! what do you think please!

First improvement:
The Hawala App was overloaded. Way too many buttons which never had a function. These are removed till End of Q1


Second improvement:
Safety is greatly increased by introducing KYC

Has someone another big improvements?

Hawala to the mooooon

How long ago in this branch there was a representative of the project? Someone will tell me that with the project, there have been some improvements to the product or is it just dead?

When will the tokens be paid for airdrop? I'm telegrams wear your avatar and name is already very long, but I never paid.