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newbie
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Not only INS every company will follow their roadmap after completion of the ICO, otherwise, we cannot able to increase the price of INS, let's them work in this bearish mode and once the market starts recovering we can able to see the real price of INS.
Good point it is very difficult if not unreasonable to judge a tokens true value when in a large bear market and also the product itself is still under development. 


I really am impressed with the idea and concept and have invested a small amount, but what I would like to know from the Developers is how INS will likely influence the retailers position in the market place? For example if I can purchase XXX product from a Supermarket for say $20 but from INS through the manufacturer or supplier for only $14, obviously I am going to go with the cheaper option, but how will this affect the relationship between Supplier and retailer if the supplier is seen to be undercutting the retailer, wouldn't the retailer then dump the supplier for another one who is not undercutting them?


Interested to hear what strategies are in place for the above mentioned scenario.


Well, many people told that self-driving cars will replace taxi drivers from the market but as we can see today it's a very long way and it won't happened even in 2-3 years. The same in grocery shopping. We are going to launch step by step and can't take away big retailer's market share in a short period of time. There is no guarantee that retailers will disappear from the market at all. For the first time it won't affect affect the relationship between manufacturer and retailer at all. What is going to be after, we'll see. Obviously retailers also have some technology and marketing developing plans and will not give up.
Hi, I think you misunderstood my point, I am not suggesting that INS would take away the big or small retailers market but I am saying that suppliers/manufactures will not want to upset the apple cart by undercutting their retail partners, so unless it is on-line only sales products, I am still curious as to how you plan to have large suppliers and manufacturer's on board when they do not want to clash with their bread and butter, that being of course, the retailers. 


The reason I asked the original question was that I could not see that point addressed in the Whitepaper, and clearly you have not given it much time either, which is a little disappointing considering the fact that you have had plenty of time to think of that potential scenario or obstacle.


Did you do a SWAT analysis or Viability Assessment and look for threats or weaknesses when you were spit-balling the finer details?


I expected (was actually hoping as I am invested in INS) that you would come back with a pre-discussed remedy or plan regarding the infiltration of suppliers while at the same time making sure their retail customers do not suffer.   Something along the lines of for every INS intiated sale by the supplier/manufacturer direct to the public the retailer will receive xxx INS as compensation or a rebate from the supplier, or other benefit. 


You have to keep both sides happy man so I hope you guys come up with a plan for doing so, the concept is great and I think it could be very big one-day, but your main obstacle from my POV is going to be retailers and their relationships with their providers.  I hope I am wrong and am happy to be proved wrong about this but unless I am misisng something, I don't know.....

Everyhthing is more simple than you described. We are not (at least now) multi billion company like some retailers and to work with us manufacturers don't have to make so hard and risky decision. They see some new opportunities they try it. First just a little, then more if it works. 
Manufacturers are ready to try new ways of interacting with customers, moreover many of them want to implement it and think about it for long time.

They can save big promotion budgets. Grocery manufacturers spend up to 17% of their sales on trade promotions. Trade promotions comprise a growing category of manufacturer expenses directed to wholesale and retail distributors rather than to consumers.

They will have the ability to direct interaction with consumers which is extremely valuable today to know more about their buyers preferences.
Mostly we focused on manufactrer's advantages from working with us in WP.

Also please check the footnotes links in the whitepaper for some researches and reports about food retail market. That's the real numbers that helps us to make decisions and of course founder's food retail and consulting experience as well.
full member
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Why the team will not buy tokens for cheap? Now the best moment + the community will be happy.
they would like to if money they have is unlimited Cheesy
if they run out of money to develop INS project before the ecosystem can work well, the investor will charge them for fraud. they don't guarantee or make a promise that you can make money if you buy INS token. they need money to build to run this project, so don't ask for something stupid just to make it easier for you to make money
jr. member
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Not only INS every company will follow their roadmap after completion of the ICO, otherwise, we cannot able to increase the price of INS, let's them work in this bearish mode and once the market starts recovering we can able to see the real price of INS.
Good point it is very difficult if not unreasonable to judge a tokens true value when in a large bear market and also the product itself is still under development. 


I really am impressed with the idea and concept and have invested a small amount, but what I would like to know from the Developers is how INS will likely influence the retailers position in the market place? For example if I can purchase XXX product from a Supermarket for say $20 but from INS through the manufacturer or supplier for only $14, obviously I am going to go with the cheaper option, but how will this affect the relationship between Supplier and retailer if the supplier is seen to be undercutting the retailer, wouldn't the retailer then dump the supplier for another one who is not undercutting them?


Interested to hear what strategies are in place for the above mentioned scenario.


Well, many people told that self-driving cars will replace taxi drivers from the market but as we can see today it's a very long way and it won't happened even in 2-3 years. The same in grocery shopping. We are going to launch step by step and can't take away big retailer's market share in a short period of time. There is no guarantee that retailers will disappear from the market at all. For the first time it won't affect affect the relationship between manufacturer and retailer at all. What is going to be after, we'll see. Obviously retailers also have some technology and marketing developing plans and will not give up.
Hi, I think you misunderstood my point, I am not suggesting that INS would take away the big or small retailers market but I am saying that suppliers/manufactures will not want to upset the apple cart by undercutting their retail partners, so unless it is on-line only sales products, I am still curious as to how you plan to have large suppliers and manufacturer's on board when they do not want to clash with their bread and butter, that being of course, the retailers. 


The reason I asked the original question was that I could not see that point addressed in the Whitepaper, and clearly you have not given it much time either, which is a little disappointing considering the fact that you have had plenty of time to think of that potential scenario or obstacle.


Did you do a SWAT analysis or Viability Assessment and look for threats or weaknesses when you were spit-balling the finer details?


I expected (was actually hoping as I am invested in INS) that you would come back with a pre-discussed remedy or plan regarding the infiltration of suppliers while at the same time making sure their retail customers do not suffer.   Something along the lines of for every INS intiated sale by the supplier/manufacturer direct to the public the retailer will receive xxx INS as compensation or a rebate from the supplier, or other benefit. 


You have to keep both sides happy man so I hope you guys come up with a plan for doing so, the concept is great and I think it could be very big one-day, but your main obstacle from my POV is going to be retailers and their relationships with their providers.  I hope I am wrong and am happy to be proved wrong about this but unless I am misisng something, I don't know.....

 


legendary
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Why the team will not buy tokens for cheap? Now the best moment + the community will be happy.
The community is interested in observing the timing of the road map, this is an indicator of a successful project, and for me as well. And why did you decide that the team would not buy their tokens. I have not heard such statements.

Why do they need to buy it? Those are only for a team who are only focused on the price not the value of their project. Yes, they are totally focused on their roadmap and I know that they will deliver results in the future.

Not only INS every company will follow their roadmap after completion of the ICO, otherwise, we cannot able to increase the price of INS, let's them work in this bearish mode and once the market starts recovering we can able to see the real price of INS.

Don't you think that this bearish market gave us the real prices of those altcoins/tokens? Even now most of them are overvalued - no working product, no user base, no demand...
newbie
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Hey, great project! Do you guys think the price will be even lower of INS? It is a great price right now, maybe the weekend will bring some movement.
newbie
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Not only INS every company will follow their roadmap after completion of the ICO, otherwise, we cannot able to increase the price of INS, let's them work in this bearish mode and once the market starts recovering we can able to see the real price of INS.
Good point it is very difficult if not unreasonable to judge a tokens true value when in a large bear market and also the product itself is still under development. 


I really am impressed with the idea and concept and have invested a small amount, but what I would like to know from the Developers is how INS will likely influence the retailers position in the market place? For example if I can purchase XXX product from a Supermarket for say $20 but from INS through the manufacturer or supplier for only $14, obviously I am going to go with the cheaper option, but how will this affect the relationship between Supplier and retailer if the supplier is seen to be undercutting the retailer, wouldn't the retailer then dump the supplier for another one who is not undercutting them?


Interested to hear what strategies are in place for the above mentioned scenario.


Well, many people told that self-driving cars will replace taxi drivers from the market but as we can see today it's a very long way and it won't happened even in 2-3 years. The same in grocery shopping. We are going to launch step by step and can't take away big retailer's market share in a short period of time. There is no guarantee that retailers will disappear from the market at all. For the first time it won't affect affect the relationship between manufacturer and retailer at all. What is going to be after, we'll see. Obviously retailers also have some technology and marketing developing plans and will not give up.
jr. member
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Not only INS every company will follow their roadmap after completion of the ICO, otherwise, we cannot able to increase the price of INS, let's them work in this bearish mode and once the market starts recovering we can able to see the real price of INS.
Good point it is very difficult if not unreasonable to judge a tokens true value when in a large bear market and also the product itself is still under development. 


I really am impressed with the idea and concept and have invested a small amount, but what I would like to know from the Developers is how INS will likely influence the retailers position in the market place? For example if I can purchase XXX product from a Supermarket for say $20 but from INS through the manufacturer or supplier for only $14, obviously I am going to go with the cheaper option, but how will this affect the relationship between Supplier and retailer if the supplier is seen to be undercutting the retailer, wouldn't the retailer then dump the supplier for another one who is not undercutting them?


Interested to hear what strategies are in place for the above mentioned scenario.

legendary
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Why the team will not buy tokens for cheap? Now the best moment + the community will be happy.
The community is interested in observing the timing of the road map, this is an indicator of a successful project, and for me as well. And why did you decide that the team would not buy their tokens. I have not heard such statements.

Why do they need to buy it? Those are only for a team who are only focused on the price not the value of their project. Yes, they are totally focused on their roadmap and I know that they will deliver results in the future.

Not only INS every company will follow their roadmap after completion of the ICO, otherwise, we cannot able to increase the price of INS, let's them work in this bearish mode and once the market starts recovering we can able to see the real price of INS.
full member
Activity: 1176
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Why the team will not buy tokens for cheap? Now the best moment + the community will be happy.
The community is interested in observing the timing of the road map, this is an indicator of a successful project, and for me as well. And why did you decide that the team would not buy their tokens. I have not heard such statements.

Why do they need to buy it? Those are only for team who are only focused on the price not the value of their project. Yes, they are totally focused on their roadmap and I know that they will deliver results in the future.
sr. member
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Why the team will not buy tokens for cheap? Now the best moment + the community will be happy.
The community is interested in observing the timing of the road map, this is an indicator of a successful project, and for me as well. And why did you decide that the team would not buy their tokens. I have not heard such statements.
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Monthly Update: July 2018

Welcome to INS development digest of July. We have made a great progress with platform development and new partnerships. Read full monthly update in INS blog!

Read full article on Medium: https://blog.ins.world/monthly-update-july-2018-4396949219e3
legendary
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Why the team will not buy tokens for cheap? Now the best moment + the community will be happy.
Why should team buy tokens? had they promised or said about buybacks? i seriously think if team would buy their own tokens that would be kinda manipulation, that's why they don't trade or buy their own tokens.
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Inside INS Ecosystem's warehouses Pickertonn robots will automatically fulfill an order in just a few minutes, ready to be picked-up by the consumer or a courier. The module takes four times less space than a comparable store and does not require full-time staff to operate, leading to 10% savings versus traditional brick-and-mortar stores. It also consumes less energy and has a better carbon footprint.
newbie
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Why the team will not buy tokens for cheap? Now the best moment + the community will be happy.
hero member
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In terms of investment timing based on the prices differences from all time high to this current one which isn't confirmed bottom yet. It can be said buying at this level may be suitable as few people have already said it has to grow yet. That increase was due to general hype and altcoins rally but this time based on development it will be back like other markets. Buy when others are crumbling and are full of fear works always.

Not sure about their product and future demand, I am still holding a little bag of INS, but now its worth almost nothing. 10$ ATH, even after market drop, price went down too fast, for me seems like team are selling some part to take profits.

Better hodl than regret later. At first when the value is drastically going down I regret holding it but as I move forward towards Q4 I started to gain confidence that INS will make me rich in the near future. I don't think the team is selling their tokens as they sre busy in development and they know that they are holding a treasure.

You're quite right, mate. The main focus of the team right now is the development process of the platform and blockchain, what is more the proper finish of all preparations for the pilot launch. Your patience will be rewarded! Thanks for putting your trust into the project !
I was surprised with the price now, the volume really dump so I guess some are selling.
If they can work on the project well they will recover, this is the test of every project because if they are legit there is nothing to worry, I'll be buying anyway.
newbie
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In terms of investment timing based on the prices differences from all time high to this current one which isn't confirmed bottom yet. It can be said buying at this level may be suitable as few people have already said it has to grow yet. That increase was due to general hype and altcoins rally but this time based on development it will be back like other markets. Buy when others are crumbling and are full of fear works always.

Not sure about their product and future demand, I am still holding a little bag of INS, but now its worth almost nothing. 10$ ATH, even after market drop, price went down too fast, for me seems like team are selling some part to take profits.

Better hodl than regret later. At first when the value is drastically going down I regret holding it but as I move forward towards Q4 I started to gain confidence that INS will make me rich in the near future. I don't think the team is selling their tokens as they sre busy in development and they know that they are holding a treasure.

You're quite right, mate. The main focus of the team right now is the development process of the platform and blockchain, what is more the proper finish of all preparations for the pilot launch. Your patience will be rewarded! Thanks for putting your trust into the project !
newbie
Activity: 97
Merit: 0
In terms of investment timing based on the prices differences from all time high to this current one which isn't confirmed bottom yet. It can be said buying at this level may be suitable as few people have already said it has to grow yet. That increase was due to general hype and altcoins rally but this time based on development it will be back like other markets. Buy when others are crumbling and are full of fear works always.

Not sure about their product and future demand, I am still holding a little bag of INS, but now its worth almost nothing. 10$ ATH, even after market drop, price went down too fast, for me seems like team are selling some part to take profits.
yes i agree with your opinion, price fast down from 10$ they sell token every day because bitcoin down too and when bitcoin bullish price INS will be following. all coin now is cheap, it's time to buy

Sir, have replied that wrong opinion above. Please read carefully
newbie
Activity: 97
Merit: 0
In terms of investment timing based on the prices differences from all time high to this current one which isn't confirmed bottom yet. It can be said buying at this level may be suitable as few people have already said it has to grow yet. That increase was due to general hype and altcoins rally but this time based on development it will be back like other markets. Buy when others are crumbling and are full of fear works always.

Not sure about their product and future demand, I am still holding a little bag of INS, but now its worth almost nothing. 10$ ATH, even after market drop, price went down too fast, for me seems like team are selling some part to take profits.

I hear what u r saying, mate. However unfortunately you're absolutely wrong. Our tokens are stored here https://etherscan.io/token/0x5b2e4a700dfbc560061e957edec8f6eeeb74a320?a=0x1843da7f41dedc12231f0af93bbf2bbfba1a9e60 and haven't moved since ICO. They are locked for 2 years (according to our whitepaper).

Moreover, the team has strong belief in our future success and all the accomplishments reached by us point out our intentions to finish the work started and implement the idea in the real world. Q4 2018 - testnet of INS blockchain platform
full member
Activity: 1176
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In terms of investment timing based on the prices differences from all time high to this current one which isn't confirmed bottom yet. It can be said buying at this level may be suitable as few people have already said it has to grow yet. That increase was due to general hype and altcoins rally but this time based on development it will be back like other markets. Buy when others are crumbling and are full of fear works always.

Not sure about their product and future demand, I am still holding a little bag of INS, but now its worth almost nothing. 10$ ATH, even after market drop, price went down too fast, for me seems like team are selling some part to take profits.

Better hodl than regret later. At first when the value is drastically going down I regret holding it but as I move forward towards Q4 I started to gain confidence that INS will make me rich in the near future. I don't think the team is selling their tokens as they sre busy in development and they know that they are holding a treasure.
sr. member
Activity: 1148
Merit: 250
In terms of investment timing based on the prices differences from all time high to this current one which isn't confirmed bottom yet. It can be said buying at this level may be suitable as few people have already said it has to grow yet. That increase was due to general hype and altcoins rally but this time based on development it will be back like other markets. Buy when others are crumbling and are full of fear works always.

Not sure about their product and future demand, I am still holding a little bag of INS, but now its worth almost nothing. 10$ ATH, even after market drop, price went down too fast, for me seems like team are selling some part to take profits.
yes i agree with your opinion, price fast down from 10$ they sell token every day because bitcoin down too and when bitcoin bullish price INS will be following. all coin now is cheap, it's time to buy
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