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hero member
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i dont think they understand this whole private public key thing. the mathematical cryptography just has values items sit at.

its like them calling the postal service up after they change fees to ask when they are coming to update the mailbox at the front of their house.

im most interested in wildshark and korvas's dissappearance. seems they will be back when the chains moving again so i guess they just run from the kitchen when it gets hot

boki/tor isnt a dev is he? actually i dont think any can be considered devs if they just copy changes from other coins to fix.

ive also never heard of leading edge... just bleeding edge.

how are you innovative if you just copy new blockchain changes. this makes you an immitator not innovator. business buzz words should be backed up... state how you are innovative else its misleading and false advertising.

i for 1 discourage game devs from using ionomy as a platform. they would have just lost weeks of revenue and also likely to again based on past track record rebase etc. its high risk to use their coin. the devs have no risk as they have their premine. and they centralise decisions like banks choosing to rollback without consideration for those that did honest transactions. they should have tagged the bad masternode and just revoked those transactions at a min.



I haven't gone anywhere just been lurking and observing  Smiley

Interesting argument to discourage game devs......

What would your solution have been ? Implement a fix, keep the same chain & let everyone keep the extra stakes including the thieves. Maybe this is what the thieves were banking on...... short sighted greedy investors pushing the devs into a corner

The thieves attempts were foiled with the outcome being a stronger ionomy. Think of this as your immune system fighting off an infection. The next infection that comes along will have to battle an even stronger immune system...... like life if it don't kill you it will make you stronger.

BTW. Have you had a chance to checkout the new wallet yet it's brill.



I really like how they've cleaned up the Masternodes tab which btw has nothing to do with the exploit  Grin

did you read? i said at minimum they should blacklist the bad masternode and its transactions. iterate from the start trans and flag the masternodes doing it.

interesting argument to discourage game dev? so you think its good that game devs would of lost money? do you think it appropriate? i think its a valid point. if it happens in the future is it acceptable to hurt those you ate trying to attract? your thoughts here on why thats acceptable please dont avoid answering it.

your immune system analogy is just an attempt at a feel good statement and is flawed. if this change was an immune system then it didnt attack the virus like immune systems do it attacked the bodies organs as well. this immune response destroyed the growth the body did in that few weeks. also immune systems remember that same virus and doesnt protect from new strains. the process repeats again when a new threat comes to the body. so im assuming the immune response from ionomy next infection is to attack the body again and harm everything to get 1 user? thats why i said devs should be aware and stay away as they are burdened with the risk. ion devs have their premine... rollback doesnt hurt them.

your analogy with immune systems is now accurate.

Yep I read it...

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did you read? i said at minimum they should blacklist the bad masternode and its transactions. iterate from the start trans and flag the masternodes doing it.

How would that stop the thieves. What's to stop them setting up another node or mixing the coin. A fix secure's the network but the thieves are is still able to steal ION and the ecosystem is left awash with coin. Another analogy  Smiley The rollback is just like a person with cancer having chemotherapy, Chemotherapy harms the whole body but it also kills the cancer. The ION investor is harmed but they recover.   

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interesting argument to discourage game dev? so you think its good that game devs would of lost money? do you think it appropriate? i think its a valid point. if it happens in the future is it acceptable to hurt those you ate trying to attract? your thoughts here on why thats acceptable please dont avoid answering it.

It's not good that a game dev would lose out, in fact it's not good for anybody apart from the thieves to lose out. What does it it say about the devs if they let the thieves keep their stolen ion. Is it acceptable for thieves to steal ION + fuck up the network Huh Is this something your okay with. A rollback isn't an action taken lightly but what other solutions exist ?

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your immune system analogy is just an attempt at a feel good statement and is flawed. if this change was an immune system then it didnt attack the virus like immune systems do it attacked the bodies organs as well. this immune response destroyed the growth the body did in that few weeks. also immune systems remember that same virus and doesnt protect from new strains. the process repeats again when a new threat comes to the body. so im assuming the immune response from ionomy next infection is to attack the body again and harm everything to get 1 user? thats why i said devs should be aware and stay away as they are burdened with the risk. ion devs have their premine... rollback doesnt hurt them.

How do you know it's 1 user Huh You do know that once your immune system defeats the virus it doesn't disappear never to return. It either comes back and you kill it without you noticing or it evolves into something else, the new blockchain does this.... we could go on & on & on but I'm kinda getting bored as I know my words are wasted on you

The ramifications of the rollback ?? the network seems faster, it's definitely more secure and I have a new wallet Smiley The best bit for me bit though is knowing the thieves are looking at the ion price on bitrex 

The devs No.1 job is to protect their investors...... job done  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2100
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HODL
Was there some announcement regarding the wallet? Or its just some group of pumpers pumping the hell out the Ionomy? I personally like the coin, but will not be very happy about the fact that its being used as a pump and dump coin.

Definitely a group of pumpers. The coin doesn't have enough original innovation nor has it stuck to its road map (one game per month anyone) to warrant this rise to actually stick.
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Was there some announcement regarding the wallet? Or its just some group of pumpers pumping the hell out the Ionomy? I personally like the coin, but will not be very happy about the fact that its being used as a pump and dump coin.
legendary
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https://bpip.org
This is going to be interesting.

Will the paycoiners be able to get on the gravy train? Or will the bubble deflate as soon as the wallet is enabled?

TBH I wouldn't feel particularly sorry if the pumpers underestimated the shittyness of this coin and end up holding the bags but I have a feeling they're not that stupid. It's more likely that giddy slackers will get owned, again.
hero member
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what happened  to the  ION,   price rise  to  a lever  which  should be   impossible ,  is there a big  improvement from dev team ?

Definitely a pump

Look at the price, No news, nothing but it is up by 200+ - 300+%

It start off with a minor pump, people get in follow the pump and the volume goes crazy 1096 btc as the time i posted this
hero member
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what happened  to the  ION,   price rise  to  a lever  which  should be   impossible ,  is there a big  improvement from dev team ?

fake exchanger pump
hero member
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what happened  to the  ION,   price rise  to  a lever  which  should be   impossible ,  is there a big  improvement from dev team ?
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1021
What Is going on with price?

pump groups. happened to eboost recently and thats another blasko coin with marshall long involved. it ico'd on bittrex with their promises then poof vanished. its a scam.

vox had a pump too recently its a scam.

be careful of riding any pumps. they aim to raise price so they can profit, the groups that is. once pump groups gone they always slide back to normal levels.

The wallet is still disabled, so there are no ION deposits coming in.

pump group are using whats onthe books. its smart because more buy and no threat of incoming deposits to affect their profits. exchanges should freeze markets when wallets disabled for this very reason.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
What Is going on with price?

pump groups. happened to eboost recently and thats another blasko coin with marshall long involved. it ico'd on bittrex with their promises then poof vanished. its a scam.

vox had a pump too recently its a scam.

be careful of riding any pumps. they aim to raise price so they can profit, the groups that is. once pump groups gone they always slide back to normal levels.

The wallet is still disabled, so there are no ION deposits coming in.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1021
What Is going on with price?

pump groups. happened to eboost recently and thats another blasko coin with marshall long involved. it ico'd on bittrex with their promises then poof vanished. its a scam.

vox had a pump too recently its a scam.

be careful of riding any pumps. they aim to raise price so they can profit, the groups that is. once pump groups gone they always slide back to normal levels.
newbie
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What Is going on with price?
newbie
Activity: 50
Merit: 0
Awesome profits, Ty Ion. The group pumpin it, is really good.
legendary
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Merit: 1042
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did you read?

Nope, he just automatically disagrees.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1021
i dont think they understand this whole private public key thing. the mathematical cryptography just has values items sit at.

its like them calling the postal service up after they change fees to ask when they are coming to update the mailbox at the front of their house.

im most interested in wildshark and korvas's dissappearance. seems they will be back when the chains moving again so i guess they just run from the kitchen when it gets hot

boki/tor isnt a dev is he? actually i dont think any can be considered devs if they just copy changes from other coins to fix.

ive also never heard of leading edge... just bleeding edge.

how are you innovative if you just copy new blockchain changes. this makes you an immitator not innovator. business buzz words should be backed up... state how you are innovative else its misleading and false advertising.

i for 1 discourage game devs from using ionomy as a platform. they would have just lost weeks of revenue and also likely to again based on past track record rebase etc. its high risk to use their coin. the devs have no risk as they have their premine. and they centralise decisions like banks choosing to rollback without consideration for those that did honest transactions. they should have tagged the bad masternode and just revoked those transactions at a min.



I haven't gone anywhere just been lurking and observing  Smiley

Interesting argument to discourage game devs......

What would your solution have been ? Implement a fix, keep the same chain & let everyone keep the extra stakes including the thieves. Maybe this is what the thieves were banking on...... short sighted greedy investors pushing the devs into a corner

The thieves attempts were foiled with the outcome being a stronger ionomy. Think of this as your immune system fighting off an infection. The next infection that comes along will have to battle an even stronger immune system...... like life if it don't kill you it will make you stronger.

BTW. Have you had a chance to checkout the new wallet yet it's brill.



I really like how they've cleaned up the Masternodes tab which btw has nothing to do with the exploit  Grin

did you read? i said at minimum they should blacklist the bad masternode and its transactions. iterate from the start trans and flag the masternodes doing it.

interesting argument to discourage game dev? so you think its good that game devs would of lost money? do you think it appropriate? i think its a valid point. if it happens in the future is it acceptable to hurt those you ate trying to attract? your thoughts here on why thats acceptable please dont avoid answering it.

your immune system analogy is just an attempt at a feel good statement and is flawed. if this change was an immune system then it didnt attack the virus like immune systems do it attacked the bodies organs as well. this immune response destroyed the growth the body did in that few weeks. also immune systems remember that same virus and doesnt protect from new strains. the process repeats again when a new threat comes to the body. so im assuming the immune response from ionomy next infection is to attack the body again and harm everything to get 1 user? thats why i said devs should be aware and stay away as they are burdened with the risk. ion devs have their premine... rollback doesnt hurt them.

your analogy with immune systems is now accurate.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
Is this project still active and if so which part of the roadmap is it currently being worked on? Any links would be appreciated. I checked out the website but couldnt manage to find what is being worked on.

They're barely able to keep the blockchain "breathing" and the roadmap has nothing to do with reality.

E.g. "one game per month" isn't happening, they produced one incomplete game in 13+ months.

Now their business plan seems to be switching to faucets or something like that.

hallucination is a common symptom that people suffer from when they read your posts Smiley

Was just about to point out a fundamental flaw in your analysis but then stopped myself...... carry on nice to see Genius At Work

Of course, it's my fault that you can't read. I'm sorry for using big words and long sentences. I will not try to dumb it down for you, sorry.

Let me help you with the fundamental flaw thingy. You wanted to point out that it's running ~10% faster by design, until it catches up to the target time of 64 seconds per block, right?

Because more coins is better, everybody knows that Smiley
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Is this project still active and if so which part of the roadmap is it currently being worked on? Any links would be appreciated. I checked out the website but couldnt manage to find what is being worked on.
legendary
Activity: 2100
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HODL
Yes, tor seems to be the dev - or at least "a" dev - since a few weeks ago. Which has all sorts of interesting implications, such as the timing of the attack, choice of the rollback block, and possibly more fun in the future given the lack of peer review and QA. Inmates running the asylum, what could possibly go wrong.

Your right about copying but to say this is a copy of a blockchain just exposes your ignorance & your agenda of ill intent.

Your lame attempt to slander Tor is also pathetically funny. The only interesting implication that I can see is one in which you totally underestimated TOR.

So far the only complaints I can see about the rollback are from the trolls of which hidden amongst this felch is the criminal who had 1000's of  ION just disappear. Smiley  I can't think of a better solution..... can you

I didn't say anything about copying. You're hallucinating.

A better solution would be to do some quality assurance so that you wouldn't need a bailout. Failing to do so, rollback should be the last resort. If the team had proper devs they would have plugged the hole in a couple of days and not wait three weeks. It's funny how you're still so blinded by Garza's rhetoric that you think "trolls" caused this but you're also ignoring the part where the "criminal" actually gets to keep 1000s of IONs. The rollback leaves about a week's worth of staking untouched.

You either go all the way (June 7), or back to the date of announcement (June 17, although the announcement should have been issued immediately, why wait 10 days?), or no rollback at all. This half-assed rollback is probably the worst possible choice, not that it's surprising given the actors.

BTW the new chain is running about 10-20% too fast. Brilliant devs indeed.

Edit: this shit is quite funny. The new difficulty adjustment seems to have a "floor", or rather a "ceiling", where it keeps going down and gets stuck at a low difficulty for a number of blocks... some examples:

https://i.snag.gy/pyeuEt.jpg
https://i.snag.gy/jZz47r.jpg
https://i.snag.gy/aEDtwW.jpg
https://i.snag.gy/mAHcJQ.jpg

Clearly out of touch with the block times. I can't be bothered to plot a chart but I have a feeling it would be hilarious.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/#!overview

Lots of blocks with identical timestamps too. But I'm sure it's all part of the grand vision.

Edit - this chart shows how the difficulty (orange line) spikes up and down and bottoms out. Has been mostly down recently despite the fact that more wallets are coming online:


https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/#!extraction

Transfercoin chart for comparison:



I browsed a few other POS coins and can't find any that would have this weird flat-bottom spiky diff chart. Let's hope ION isn't having breathing issues again.

hallucination is a common symptom that people suffer from when they read your posts Smiley

Was just about to point out a fundamental flaw in your analysis but then stopped myself...... carry on nice to see Genius At Work

LOL! "Was just about to point out.." ya right. I don't even think you understand what suchmoon is talking about, which makes sense for an ION whale.

Instead of shilling, why don't you present what is false about what suchmoon posted?
hero member
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Yes, tor seems to be the dev - or at least "a" dev - since a few weeks ago. Which has all sorts of interesting implications, such as the timing of the attack, choice of the rollback block, and possibly more fun in the future given the lack of peer review and QA. Inmates running the asylum, what could possibly go wrong.

Your right about copying but to say this is a copy of a blockchain just exposes your ignorance & your agenda of ill intent.

Your lame attempt to slander Tor is also pathetically funny. The only interesting implication that I can see is one in which you totally underestimated TOR.

So far the only complaints I can see about the rollback are from the trolls of which hidden amongst this felch is the criminal who had 1000's of  ION just disappear. Smiley  I can't think of a better solution..... can you

I didn't say anything about copying. You're hallucinating.

A better solution would be to do some quality assurance so that you wouldn't need a bailout. Failing to do so, rollback should be the last resort. If the team had proper devs they would have plugged the hole in a couple of days and not wait three weeks. It's funny how you're still so blinded by Garza's rhetoric that you think "trolls" caused this but you're also ignoring the part where the "criminal" actually gets to keep 1000s of IONs. The rollback leaves about a week's worth of staking untouched.

You either go all the way (June 7), or back to the date of announcement (June 17, although the announcement should have been issued immediately, why wait 10 days?), or no rollback at all. This half-assed rollback is probably the worst possible choice, not that it's surprising given the actors.

BTW the new chain is running about 10-20% too fast. Brilliant devs indeed.

Edit: this shit is quite funny. The new difficulty adjustment seems to have a "floor", or rather a "ceiling", where it keeps going down and gets stuck at a low difficulty for a number of blocks... some examples:

https://i.snag.gy/pyeuEt.jpg
https://i.snag.gy/jZz47r.jpg
https://i.snag.gy/aEDtwW.jpg
https://i.snag.gy/mAHcJQ.jpg

Clearly out of touch with the block times. I can't be bothered to plot a chart but I have a feeling it would be hilarious.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/#!overview

Lots of blocks with identical timestamps too. But I'm sure it's all part of the grand vision.

Edit - this chart shows how the difficulty (orange line) spikes up and down and bottoms out. Has been mostly down recently despite the fact that more wallets are coming online:


https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/#!extraction

Transfercoin chart for comparison:



I browsed a few other POS coins and can't find any that would have this weird flat-bottom spiky diff chart. Let's hope ION isn't having breathing issues again.

hallucination is a common symptom that people suffer from when they read your posts Smiley

Was just about to point out a fundamental flaw in your analysis but then stopped myself...... carry on nice to see Genius At Work
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
Yes, tor seems to be the dev - or at least "a" dev - since a few weeks ago. Which has all sorts of interesting implications, such as the timing of the attack, choice of the rollback block, and possibly more fun in the future given the lack of peer review and QA. Inmates running the asylum, what could possibly go wrong.

Your right about copying but to say this is a copy of a blockchain just exposes your ignorance & your agenda of ill intent.

Your lame attempt to slander Tor is also pathetically funny. The only interesting implication that I can see is one in which you totally underestimated TOR.

So far the only complaints I can see about the rollback are from the trolls of which hidden amongst this felch is the criminal who had 1000's of  ION just disappear. Smiley  I can't think of a better solution..... can you

I didn't say anything about copying. You're hallucinating.

A better solution would be to do some quality assurance so that you wouldn't need a bailout. Failing to do so, rollback should be the last resort. If the team had proper devs they would have plugged the hole in a couple of days and not wait three weeks. It's funny how you're still so blinded by Garza's rhetoric that you think "trolls" caused this but you're also ignoring the part where the "criminal" actually gets to keep 1000s of IONs. The rollback leaves about a week's worth of staking untouched.

You either go all the way (June 7), or back to the date of announcement (June 17, although the announcement should have been issued immediately, why wait 10 days?), or no rollback at all. This half-assed rollback is probably the worst possible choice, not that it's surprising given the actors.

BTW the new chain is running about 10-20% too fast. Brilliant devs indeed.

Edit: this shit is quite funny. The new difficulty adjustment seems to have a "floor", or rather a "ceiling", where it keeps going down and gets stuck at a low difficulty for a number of blocks... some examples:

https://i.snag.gy/pyeuEt.jpg
https://i.snag.gy/jZz47r.jpg
https://i.snag.gy/aEDtwW.jpg
https://i.snag.gy/mAHcJQ.jpg

Clearly out of touch with the block times. I can't be bothered to plot a chart but I have a feeling it would be hilarious.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/#!overview

Lots of blocks with identical timestamps too. But I'm sure it's all part of the grand vision.

Edit - this chart shows how the difficulty (orange line) spikes up and down and bottoms out. Has been mostly down recently despite the fact that more wallets are coming online:

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Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/#!extraction

Transfercoin chart for comparison:

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Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image

I browsed a few other POS coins and can't find any that would have this weird flat-bottom spiky diff chart. Let's hope ION isn't having breathing issues again.
hero member
Activity: 1248
Merit: 583
is there any new development or improvement recently ,this  coin make me lose a lot money 

I can't see how you lost a lot of money

July 27 2016      ION $.17   BTC $653
July 27 2017      ION $.66   BTC $2449

Markup ION = 288%
Markup BTC = 275%

Add the fact that the ION you owned minted additional ION I don't understand how you lost money. The only way I can think of is if you traded by buying high then selling low

What went wrong Sad

Lots of things in the pipeline  Smiley

Keep on shilling for your buggy scam coin, korvas.

I'm answering the question using FACTS you should try it sometime plus I really do want to know how Eastwind_ja lost money.

Oh and as your so keen to watch ION fall let me make an effort to update some numbers.

July 27 2016      ION $.17   BTC $653
July 27 2017      ION $.73   BTC $2361

Markup ION =329%
Markup BTC =261%

 Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

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