[ANN] [MINT] Mintcoin (POS / 5%) [NO ICO] [Fair distro, community maintained] - page 613.

vujk

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Quote from: Kam800 on March 14, 2014, 06:37:37 AM

Quote from: vujk on March 14, 2014, 06:22:18 AM

Quote from: Kam800 on March 14, 2014, 02:35:51 AM

Quote from: vujk on March 14, 2014, 01:45:53 AM

My mint wallet has stopped minting since 3/11. I have updated to the current wallet and still nothing. It is unlocked. Any ideas? I found this in the debug log, not sure if it is relevant.

ProcessMessages(version, 101 bytes) : CHECKSUM ERROR nChecksum=f14d14f9 hdr.nChecksum=21f0e818

PROCESSMESSAGE MESSAGESTART NOT FOUND
Huh

Hmm, sounds like some sort of corruption may be at fault here. Checksum implies that one or more files aren't the size that the program expects them to be. I think it's worth replacing all current Mintcoin files with new ones (except wallet.dat ofc)

Give this a shot:
1. Close down your wallet
2. Backup the wallet.dat file somewhere safe.
3. Delete all Mintcoin files on your PC - the QT.exe folder as well as the data in %appdata%\roaming\Mintcoin\... (assuming you're on Windows)
4. Download a new copy of the Mintcoin wallet 1.5
5. Run the exe, wait for it to open and then close it again.
6. Copy your backed-up wallet.dat into the %appdata% folder
7. Restart your client and see if it syncs.

As the coins haven't moved this won't reset their age, as well as ruling out 99% of files potentially corrupted.

ok, I did this. I now show some "stake" in my wallet. But now it is stuck on block 109242, and my debug log has this crap...

received block 9fb99d9eb26563c688b9
ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK, prev=4db3d6ce487544161c68
received block 4db3d6ce487544161c68
ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK, prev=4691e4561e3419ec08a7
received block 4691e4561e3419ec08a7
ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK, prev=0af201510002444622b9
received block 0af201510002444622b9
ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK, prev=a4bd259ef07e15ffc772
received block a4bd259ef07e15ffc772
ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK, prev=db07b6d2f06a2c3f5d39
received block db07b6d2f06a2c3f5d39
ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK, prev=7708fcd256ae76dd4ad6
received block 7708fcd256ae76dd4ad6
ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK, prev=437b842e2b9b347cbcce
received block 437b842e2b9b347cbcce
ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK, prev=055f4cc976326559973f
received block 055f4cc976326559973f
ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK, prev=1a10d32f7c21cd25f763
received block 1a10d32f7c21cd25f763
ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK, prev=37f5610ba9289fba539a
received block 37f5610ba9289fba539a
ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK, prev=000000000f195ddc7b1b

Cool, sounds like you fixed the problem

It would appear though that some of the blocks you might have generated got solved by someone else, and are therefore orphaned. You will soon start minting new ones though.

That raises a question though; would the stake that generated an orphaned block be elligible to mint again or is it back on counter for 20-odd days?

Perhaps a dev could help explain, or has anyone who has been minting seen the same stake generate orphans until it succeeds? I've seen rumour of a 20% success rate but don't quote me on that - other people's mileage may vary based on whatever factors may be involved.

I am still having issues if anyone can throw in their 2 cents. The wallet will not sync. I redid all the files, redownloaded most of the block chain. It will not sync past block 114596. It is minting now, but they are stuck on confirms. I have the conf file from 1.5 in the correct spot.

I have some weird stuff in the log file..

ERROR: FetchInputs() : 8367dda47a mempool Tx prev not found 65cb2c80b3
stored orphan tx 8367dda47a (mapsz 4)
received block fe00bb01e7da09f54ec2
ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK, prev=bd05b6207a81db20e1ee
received block bd05b6207a81db20e1ee
ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK, prev=860fd4e3cb0168fc4bf8
ERROR: FetchInputs() : c7cd6fed6f mempool Tx prev not found 04f7c03cfe
stored orphan tx c7cd6fed6f (mapsz 5)
received block 860fd4e3cb0168fc4bf8
ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK, prev=a0ff4e7192bcd658d72

PROCESSMESSAGE MESSAGESTART NOT FOUND

mintcointeam

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Quote from: philipvdlinde on March 14, 2014, 11:39:25 AM

Quote from: mintcointeam on March 14, 2014, 11:36:32 AM

New exchange! Buy and sell MINT against Euros
https://www.litebit.eu/coin/mint/en/

hehehe I would be a millionair if these rates were right (0,1 euro/mint)

It's for 1000 actually

philipvdlinde

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Quote from: mintcointeam on March 14, 2014, 11:36:32 AM

New exchange! Buy and sell MINT against Euros
https://www.litebit.eu/coin/mint/en/

hehehe I would be a millionair if these rates were right (0,1 euro/mint)

mintcointeam

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New exchange! Buy and sell MINT against Euros
https://www.litebit.eu/coin/mint/en/

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Black Coin multipool idea to rebuy coins is a great idea for their coin value I must admit...

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Vann

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Quote from: richlist on March 14, 2014, 09:11:31 AM

Black coin rises, but down to mint coin. Mint is also active in the community to be more. Why do black coin climb?

Because once you go black, you never look back Grin

XbladeX

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Quote from: mgburks77 on March 14, 2014, 10:23:43 AM

Quote

"Proof of Stake

BlackCoin is the first hybrid PoW/PoS altcoin to hit the Proof of Stake only stage. This means BlackCoin is unmineable and new coins will only be created by the Proof of Stake algorithm."

http://www.blackcoin.co/

Blackcoin is same as mint in this regard

No Mint have 1 Mint POW reward block while BC is PURE POS now and that is why BC is faster Pure POS makes difference.
BC have 5-15s current transaction speed because of that.
Mint is still hybrid POW/POS but with 1-Mint POW reward.

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Quote

"Proof of Stake

BlackCoin is the first hybrid PoW/PoS altcoin to hit the Proof of Stake only stage. This means BlackCoin is unmineable and new coins will only be created by the Proof of Stake algorithm."

http://www.blackcoin.co/

Blackcoin is same as mint in this regard

XbladeX

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Quote from: $onmymint on March 14, 2014, 09:48:40 AM

Quote from: richlist on March 14, 2014, 09:11:31 AM

Black coin rises, but down to mint coin. Mint is also active in the community to be more. Why do black coin climb?

Because Mints are not black

I can answer you:
- 0% premine Mint 4.5% effective premine
- PURE POS ( usulay 5s-15s transactions speed) Mint still is POS/POW hybrid.
- rising community
- 1% inflation but every 8h i can get stack(part of that 1%) i don't even care to mint i don't afraid to touch balance
- 1% inflation means that you need 20x less btc to keep price than 20% inflation
- many people just discovered BC
- compare direct to Mint to BC price should be about 5000 sat Tongue

I have 400k Mint community is great. I like it.
But for me BC is bit different coin with bit different economy.
In BC all is happening faster faster transaction, faster stakes, it wasn't so popular so it grows now faster too.

BTW HBN +100% year inflation is over power...This year will be 150% because they mine a lot.

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Quote from: richlist on March 14, 2014, 09:56:39 AM

Quote from: $onmymint on March 14, 2014, 09:48:40 AM

Quote from: richlist on March 14, 2014, 09:11:31 AM

Black coin rises, but down to mint coin. Mint is also active in the community to be more. Why do black coin climb?

Because Mints are not black

not simple. Have you got any defects mintcoin? I have not find.

such coin. . . few defect green. wow

richlist

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Quote from: $onmymint on March 14, 2014, 09:48:40 AM

Quote from: richlist on March 14, 2014, 09:11:31 AM

Black coin rises, but down to mint coin. Mint is also active in the community to be more. Why do black coin climb?

Because Mints are not black

not simple. Have you got any defects mintcoin? I have not find.

$onmymint

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Quote from: richlist on March 14, 2014, 09:11:31 AM

Black coin rises, but down to mint coin. Mint is also active in the community to be more. Why do black coin climb?

Because Mints are not black

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If anyone is interested I launched my new wallet security application today: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-launched-wallet-cloak-v10-encrypt-and-cloak-your-wallets-515381

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Quote from: Party Hard on March 14, 2014, 08:35:05 AM

Quote from: dille71 on March 14, 2014, 08:16:05 AM

Only the coins you send are reset, the other, untouched coins are not affected.
But, as i understand it, when you send coins they are randomly picked from your holdings so it could be your oldest coins that are sent.

This is something I'm wondering about too. If anyone has evidence for which coins are chosen when sent it would be great. If it is random, so be it, but I'd like clarity before I use some of my minted coins.

hobonickels uses a feature they call "coin control" that lets you select which coins to send (and shows their age and such.) Perhaps mint could implement something like this as well.

richlist

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Black coin rises, but down to mint coin. Mint is also active in the community to be more. Why do black coin climb?

Party Hard

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Quote from: dille71 on March 14, 2014, 08:16:05 AM

Only the coins you send are reset, the other, untouched coins are not affected.
But, as i understand it, when you send coins they are randomly picked from your holdings so it could be your oldest coins that are sent.

This is something I'm wondering about too. If anyone has evidence for which coins are chosen when sent it would be great. If it is random, so be it, but I'd like clarity before I use some of my minted coins.

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Quote from: brokedummy on March 13, 2014, 04:44:16 PM

Quote from: lava60 on March 13, 2014, 04:41:25 PM

Quote from: mgburks77 on March 13, 2014, 01:29:27 PM

Quote from: lava60 on March 13, 2014, 01:28:22 PM

whats up with the minting orphans being out of control? i get probably 10-15 a day. I have only in the past week got 3 accepted minting shares? Is there something wrong? IS everyone else getting so many orphans.

do you have a small amount of mint or a large amount?

Fairly large.... I have gotten over 30000 mints in 7 orphan blocks today.

My week long orphan and wallet not responding problem went away when I updated to the 1.5 wallet. Now I only get an occasioanal orphan.

Ya I just do Tuesday so that's not the problem and I thought maybe my internet connection had a latency problem but I ping tested it and it is fine. So I have no idea.

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Quote from: drakoin on March 14, 2014, 07:11:22 AM

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Quote from: drakoin on March 12, 2014, 07:36:21 AM

Quote from: coolbeans94 on March 07, 2014, 10:19:18 PM

Quote from: drakoin on March 06, 2014, 01:22:18 PM

What about PoS and change addresses?
I hope you took care of that. I do not want to have my 20 days reset whenever I move a small sum out of my wallet.

Change: If I send, there are usually two target addresses involved. Only one of the two amounts is actually moved out of the wallet to the recipient, the other one is going straight back, into a change address in my wallet. So that 2nd sum has left the wallet yes, but only to end up in it again, within seconds. Imagine there is a 1 mio input from which I spend a 7 MINT output - that results in a second 999,993 MINT output, to my change address, so it ends up back in my wallet.

Still, I fear, the 20 days period is reset for both amounts, right?

As your wallet does not yet support "coin control", I cannot even know which of my existing coin piles are touched. With one tx of 10 MINT, I might destroy 20 days of PoS of 20 billion coins. Am I wrong? If not:

Please hardcode that if outgoing and incoming into change addresses happens, the coin age is preserved. Or it that is not consistent, then:

I suggest, that you (a) lower the 20 days, (b) implement coin control.

Implement coin control. Lowering the 20 days is not a good idea as it is an important aspect of the coin design, security/sustainability.

So basically you want people to hord their mint coins, and not touch them for at least 20 days, to then collect some interest?

You want me to use another currency for my daily usage, and mint just for storing wealth?
I could only trust that concept, if the price of mint-to-other-currencies were not falling too much. But why wouldn't it fall? Apart from storing wealth, mint seems useless - because as soon as I move some of my coins, the 20 days are reset?

I don't see how all that could be a revolutionary new currency.

I want to be able to send and receive money, buy pizza, exchange for other currencies - and while I am not using my money, I want to collect interest for it - immediately- , and in PoS, use it for helping to secure the network.

minting is exactly analogous to mining

do you find this to be a problem with currency that is mined via PoW? If not then why is it a problem when coins are minted via PoS?

It's an advancement because it eliminates a lot of the energy waste associated with PoW mining

I don't find it a problem at all. If PoS works, and is safe, and is properly implemented, it can advance the whole scene.
But it needs to be understood, too. And properly implemented.
My questions are motivated by my wish to understand mint's concept.

From your answer, I deduct, that it is really the case, what I suspected in my posting up there.

So please make that clear, preferably directly in the wallet:

DO NOT TOUCH YOUR MINT COINS!
Otherwise the 20 days are reset; and in the worst case, for ALL of your million coins, even if you only send out 1 MINT.

Only the coins you send are reset, the other, untouched coins are not affected.
But, as i understand it, when you send coins they are randomly picked from your holdings so it could be your oldest coins that are sent.

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Quote from: CatKiwi on March 14, 2014, 05:21:20 AM

This thread is really starting to dry up - along with the trading volume of our coin. I'm getting slightly worried here. Even without the pumpers we need considerably more volume than we have currently - if the price is to stabilize yet alone increase. Why has there been such a drop off in interest? I know the minting process has been overly difficult for many to understand and set up but this is not looking good. We need to simplify the minting process - we can't have user after user complaining that it isn't minting or that their POS blocks aren't confirming - its extremely bad publicity. It's a great coin....but so was Karma.....

what you think? the price you will rise steadily so you get rich???
celebrates price stability!!!!!!!!!!!celebrates 20% first year!!!!

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