Topic: [ANN] [MINT] Mintcoin (POS / 5%) [NO ICO] [Fair distro, community maintained] - page 91. (Read 1369788 times)

It took much longer than an hour for my wallet to sync, but I'm using a netbook without much memory. Wallet sync time might depend how powerful your computer is. I'm sure a core i5 with 16GB of memory would get a wallet synced faster than an atom.

Volume requirement is good thing IMO as it represents interest in a coin if there is no volume then its hard for people to invest and without depth ie coins on the exchange no one can buy/sell w/o wild fluctuations in price. As you said the exchanges although good but have no liquidity. Also that is not the first requirement and can be overlooked.

This leads to your second point about future plans. I think you have bias against bittrex as you think they are demanding something or saying MINT has no future. They just want to engage & know who they are dealing with. Its a good thing to do your due diligence especially when scams are everywhere. Its good practice to know who you are doing business with. Listing every coin and later finding out that it was just a pump & dump scheme is good in your opinion?

Also MINT is a community & coin is based around charity so if there is no collaboration with charities coin is basically not fulfilling its purpose. That is what they want to be sure of that we are moving forward with our stated plans and just not another coin that is basically not yet dead. We know that MINT is great but they cant believe that without proof of collaboration in real world.

Also MINT was pretty much dead before cryptomommy, presstab, fuzzbawls and other saved it. We had no development for almost a year and only one charity ie KeyPod. Its codebase is still ancient and there are still improvements to be made. Fuzzbawls is doing great job with that. This might also be the reason for them to suspect and ask question because everyone is not tracking every single coin. We want to do business with them, we need to be transparent with them.

I think you are just taking there cautious attitude, which is a good thing, in wrong way. I am not defending them as they had there fair share of scam coins but they try to weed out as many as possible and i personally had good experience with there support & services. Polo asks for ID & fakes volume, Cryptsy is Mt.Gox of alts & other exchanges have no liquidity or due diligence. look at c-cex for example just doing ICOs and ripping people off.

If community doesn't want to get listed there then we can state so to them and that will be it but no one has yet said so.

jusr any fyi... 'bittrex-richie is an op in their channel, so i highly highly doubt it was fake.

A volume requirement is dumb, especially if they are requiring the volume to be with their exchange only. A lot of people, myself included, may not use them anyway. IMO, you kind of need to prove your loyalty and honor as an exchange for me to give you my volume. The only MINT exchanges I can say for sure have been completely flawless for me so far in all my experience has been Bleutrade and Southxchange, and I think I have tried them all, except that new one mentioned a few posts back.. Unfortunately, they don't have tons of other users and money flowing through them as much as compared to some others so it sorta sucks. The fact is MINT exists and its not going anywhere, and it is easy enough to get if you really want it.


Another thing... Future plans?

Mintcoin isn't a company, it is money. The future plan for money is it will hold value and grow, and continue to be a solid, viable, medium of exchange, good money. Mintcoin is one of the oldest, coins, yet has better features than most. It is almost 2 years old so it is already proving out its future. It is a saver's coin, and our community is honorable, not scammers, so there is no reason not to accept this coin.  

With an arrogant attitude like that, screw em. They can have all their fake volume coins. The thing is crypto exchanges can be really shady, and fake their own volume, so its all Bullshit...look at MtGox for example or many others... It's all Bullshit. Just keep focus on quality and it will pay off in due time. Give your volume to exchanges that are honorable, even if they are less well known. You don't want to partner with trash and trust garbage exchanges with your coins. This is about helping all of crypto as a whole succeed, not just advancing your own greedy adjenda, as Bittrex appears to be doing. On the contrary, Bleutrade at least will add basically every single coin there is, no problem. See that is honorable for crypto as a whole. We need to support each other.

I just want all of crypto to be free from tyranny. Your money is power, you can vote with your money. That is why I like crypto. It allows the possibility for us to vote for our power, to vote our money, to control our destiny. I mean in the very end, I could care less what coins it is that are the main leaders, could be tittyxtrollcoin for all I care. The vision is about helping us all succeed and get free, and may the best coins win in the end. Honestly, I think MINT is one of the best coins, and has an amazing future ahead. Just sort of pissed me off when I hear thinks like, "well what future do you have? You really don't have the chance, so your not worth our time..." How the Fuck do you know!?  You don't fucking know!!! Anything can happen! We all need each other! This is a team thing!

Just look at Bitcoin during the first few years of its existence, 2009-2011, what future did it have? It takes time to get a plane to take off, you go down the runway a long time and nothing is happening, and then all of the sudden you fly! And learning to fly takes time, it takes time to learn how to stay up in the air and cruiz past the storms.

In my opinion from spending time here, one thing I can see is the great people here. Doing great things. Working hard to make MINT awesome, and doing the right thing. At this point, I think I will probably be with you guys for life, apart of the community, etc. Almost like family here. Anyway, I think I've said my piece, enough for one post. I just get riled when I hear people dissing you guys or the coin.

Done.

Might be a good idea to send me the relevant information as well. Cryptomommy has been VERY busy lately

i guess with regards to volume i already answered that in my previous post with point a & b. That is there official position. I know its a subjective decision on their part but that what we have. In regard to fee they have said that it is only for those coin that had ICO on other exchange as it requires lots of compliance work, so no fees for MINT unless we want to do a coin swap/new blockchain or rebrand, that requires a fee as it also requires work on their part. All they want is concrete proof of future plans and any ongoing plans so that they can be sure about coin's utility.

I have already contacted cryptomommy with all info and thats how communication started. so i guess they already have all info needed.

So to recap

Fees required if

1) coin had an ICO on other exchange as compliance work is needed.
2) there is a rebranding/blockchain swap (fees can be waived off on their discretion)

Regarding volume requirements

Coin's development & viability based on discussion with coin devs/team takes precedence.

cryptomommy has all the contact info if Fuzzbawls wants it i can PM him too.

Thanks Kiklo, you have been helpful everytime in resolving situations.

PEACE

to be fair, their website lists both an email address AND the IRC channel as "official channels"

All other points aside, the main concern in today's discussion was the volume requirement. Above all else, the team absolutely does not want the coin to be forced to adhere to a superficial trade volume requirement (on any exchange).

So that would be the first thing to clarify.

True , but to be honest I would also like to know what the future mint plans are , and I don't use trello either.
Lets do this then , Contact your Bittrex guy one more time , ask if Mint will have a volume requirement or if any fee will be required to be resetup.
If no fees or volume requirement , then ask them for an email or address that you can have Team Mint contact them.
PM that contact info to Fuzzbawls and he can relay it to whoever on Team Mint will handle it.
You're done and then team Mint can update everyone here after communications are finished.
Sound Ok?

 
 

That is inefficient, i don't know all the charity plans and anyways most reasonable contact is via there official support email. If cryptomommy can take a little time to communicate & explain the future plans in detail then they have assurance that this coin has a future. I mean its not very difficult to do that. Its better to have communication via official channel rather than ad-hoc communication on IRC or slack where i dwell. I can give them any document official team provides me with but because i am not involved in those plans, i can't vouch if they will go thru. Someone from trello team who is also talking to other parties need to communicate. And if things break down at volume requirement then

a) they don't delist just based on volume but future plans of a coin take precedence.
b) we should clearly tell them that we dont want to be listed if there is a volume requirement.

why do people get all so excited instead of professionally talking things through official channels.

OK, I am confused,  
Bittrex can just install from the github source and reactivate the Mint Markets anytime they like,
They don't need approval from anyone on Mint Team to do that.
The requested Fee sound logical as they usually charge one and then delist when the volume drops off.
It's one way they make ends meet, and they don't hide that fact.
And I agree with Mint Team , giving 3 BTC just to be on Bittrex , is a waste of money.

You seem to have a more reasonable contact there,
So why don't you get them to relay the questions thru you.
Post them in this forum, team Mint can answer them, and then you can relay the answers back to Bittrex and Post the result.
That way if communications turn sour due to Bittrex requesting a payment, it won't turn you bitter against team mint.
Besides it is a community coin, Cryptomommy heads the Team, but the community should know what is going on, as if they are uninterested in Bittrex,
it will not meet the volume requirement anyway.

 

So you believed a person in IRC, anyone can have any name in IRC. You are publically accusing someone on that basis. I am sure that was a scammer trying to make money. Please ask cryptomommy to contact them via their support email. There is a misunderstanding here.and communication didn't break on there end, they emailed us but got no response. They are interested in our plans and listing us if we have solid plans for charity. I thought you had official communication from them asking for fees.

spoke to `bittrex-richie in their IRC channel. perhaps its a breakdown in communication on their end.

I talked to them again in JBS slack, which is open to all with an invite. You can also join.

Anyways there response was same that they do not ask for fees until you CFCed (ICO/croedfund) on some other exchange. They said fees might be needed if  they have to do compliance & verification work. He totally denied that they will ever offer to pump a coin. He also said that last time they had any contact from us is on 26th Nov with cryptomommy via there support email and never heard even a No from us since then. That's why he asked me if i know of a response and i asked here.

Can you tell me who are you talking to? there email or someone on BCT, a name. I suspect if it is not there support email then we might be talking to a scammer.

I just want to know what is going on and if there is a misunderstanding then we can still get on to one more exchange. Thanks

Good move me thinks, 3 BTC for listing coins is outrageous but if people want to pay it then that is their decision, I for one am happy Mintcoins are not.




Yes I can confirm it took me less than an hour to sync with bootstrap.

MINT has been a strong coin for coming on 2 years now.  It has basically consistently been in the top 50-100 coins for as long as I can remember it. Average trade volume has been steadily increasing on the coin too, from what I've been observing. Last year it was at like 3 satoshi during this time of year last year, so, MINT has already gained a solid 100% vs BTC over a year ago. If it keeps doing that every year, you can't complain. Looks like buy walls are starting to set up now too, so a reversal is probably coming soon. Eventually other exchanges will come begging to add the coin. my view anyway. we have poloniex, a bleutrade which are solid and reliable in my experience.

Bootstrap works just fine. You get your wallet synced up in less than an hour!

The team discussed the viability of listing MINT on Bittrex today and ultimately decided against it. Some reasoning as to why follows:

- They were asking for 3 BTC to compensate for what (by their own admission) was ~10 minutes worth of work.
- Volume requirement policy does not play well with PoS only coins.
- Historical threats of delisting coins tend to result in faking volume and pushing price further down.
- They mentioned "we can talk to a guy to rocket mint"...this just SCREAMS pump and dump scheme and artificial volume.
- Artificial volume is detrimental and not what we as a team want for MINT.

Bittrex has had numerous problems with PoS only coins as they just don't seem to understand that PoS coins don't necessarily revolve around trade volume. And, until such time that their policies and (outlandish) fee structure are revised to better accommodate MINT and PoS only coins in general, we as a team won't consider paying into a listing there.

Bittrex is not worth that, they already delisted Mint once this year for not enough trading volume.
Delisttrex is a scam exchange not worthy of a Mint Market.

we spoke with bittrex, they are interested in the 3BTC it costs to list it, not the coin itself.