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Topic: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official - page 105. (Read 196221 times)

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Popcorn tastes good.

Sandrine... You should be ashamed... I'm thoroughly disgusted.
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/pre-launch-updates/1268/78

primevalsoup, one of nokoin biggest investors.
Someone has some sense, some honesty.
well said.

Edit- primevalsoup has withdrawn posts, will be deleted in 24h.
Bit disappointing that, I may publish them here.
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legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
Sandrine admits they are envisioning compensating people who are posting here.  
That = paid shills.  She blatantly admits it!

Come on buddy..that accusation makes no sense. Why would neucoin have "paid shills" who are openly known to be the moderators of the neucoin forum? A paid shill should look neutral to the onlooker while having close ties behind the screens with the concerned people he advocates for.

Obviously, Sandrine is talking about helping with answering genuine questions etc. on the ANN thread or elsewhere on the forum. I thought that was pretty clear. Or maybe you are simply throwing accusations around to keep the drama going?  Wink

Drama, yes!

I guess you can interpret it how you want. 

You're sort of right...but I guess you are shilling right now and not being paid.  lolz.


Doesn't make much sense..but, hey, whatever makes you happy buddy!

Ok well tell me this:  What other coin (besides Paycoin) offers to pay people to "answer genuine questions?"

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hum!!!
there are a lot of proof around!!!
i have changed my feeling in the last weeks.
i think there aren't no more doubt!!!!
i can finnally say



got my vote, stunk still stinks
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Sandrine admits they are envisioning compensating people who are posting here.  
That = paid shills.  She blatantly admits it!

Come on buddy..that accusation makes no sense. Why would neucoin have "paid shills" who are openly known to be the moderators of the neucoin forum? A paid shill should look neutral to the onlooker while having close ties behind the screens with the concerned people he advocates for.

Obviously, Sandrine is talking about helping with answering genuine questions etc. on the ANN thread or elsewhere on the forum. I thought that was pretty clear. Or maybe you are simply throwing accusations around to keep the drama going?  Wink

Drama, yes!

I guess you can interpret it how you want. 

You're sort of right...but I guess you are shilling right now and not being paid.  lolz.


Doesn't make much sense..but, hey, whatever makes you happy buddy!
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BTC > etc
Honestly I don't think Neucoin is a scam. They went to a lot of trouble to be appear very professional, and in the whole grand scheme of things didn't take in that much money to justify everything it appears they did. The "scam", if there is one, could come as a pump and dump.

Pump and dump has long been the theory of many members here.

The presale was only 0.1% of existing nokoins
99.9% of the 100 billion coins are still in the hands of founders, early investors and foundations controlled by the team.
Clearly it needs to be launched so that those coins can be sold
They are trying to create a sense of legitimacy so that more people will buy it.
It is not a scam if they launched the coin and tried to promote it but it later on fails due to a few epic dumps, right  Roll Eyes

they seem to have the spare funds to pump it at will, and of course, they can also dump it.
assuming they will be manipulating the market price, then they will have to strategize how much do they want to pay early investors to keep appearances up and get even more bag holders.  

if we assume this thing is not 'going viral', once they realize that, their goal will likely be max profit...they will probably try for a few epic pumps timed with press release news.  just my two cents.

They will try everything possible to sell some of the 2.6 to 2.9 billion in their holdings first.

Let's see if they'll manage to produce a genesis block and which exchanges will assist the dump.

The big purchases are to prepare the PnD.

1.  Own a lot low.
2.  When it hits exchange, use a few BTC to create upward momentum to get the cretins excited.
3.  Dump your huge low-cost stash into idiots at higher and higher prices on the way up and the way down.
4.  Go home with a lot more BTC

It ain't fucking rocket science and pre-sales make the buy-in oh-so-convenient!

while running away with the money seems unlikely, time will tell if nokoin amounts to anything beyond a calculated pump n dump. so far the signs are not promising

They're doing the very Mastercoin method of distribution where only a few dominate and then the few dump this thing down to $0.   Cheesy  That is if the highway bandit inflation or the foundation doesn't destroy it first.   Shocked
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
Sandrine admits they are envisioning compensating people who are posting here.  
That = paid shills.  She blatantly admits it!

Come on buddy..that accusation makes no sense. Why would neucoin have "paid shills" who are openly known to be the moderators of the neucoin forum? A paid shill should look neutral to the onlooker while having close ties behind the screens with the concerned people he advocates for.

Obviously, Sandrine is talking about helping with answering genuine questions etc. on the ANN thread or elsewhere on the forum. I thought that was pretty clear. Or maybe you are simply throwing accusations around to keep the drama going?  Wink

Drama, yes!

I guess you can interpret it how you want. 

You're sort of right...but I guess you are shilling right now and not being paid.  lolz.


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BTC > etc
Spring 2015: Launch of NeuCoin and myneucoin.com, an online wallet

A detailed plan will be made available before the launch of the cryptocurrency in July 2015.

NeuCoin cryptocurrency, MyNeuCoin and GetNeuCoin will launch between August 6th and August 13th.


legendary
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https://locktrip.com/?refId=40964
hum!!!
there are a lot of proof around!!!
i have changed my feeling in the last weeks.
i think there aren't no more doubt!!!!
i can finnally say

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tempus, ^^
"Does it mean they're working since March 14 at it and are still not ready for a launch?"

Sandrine,
"NeuCoin’s team has worked on the project since February 2014."
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/currency-exchange-rate/72/4

Over a year and a half!
newbie
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Sandrine admits they are envisioning compensating people who are posting here.  
That = paid shills.  She blatantly admits it!

Come on buddy..that accusation makes no sense. Why would neucoin have "paid shills" who are openly known to be the moderators of the neucoin forum? A paid shill should look neutral to the onlooker while having close ties behind the screens with the concerned people he advocates for.

Obviously, Sandrine is talking about helping with answering genuine questions etc. on the ANN thread or elsewhere on the forum. I thought that was pretty clear. Or maybe you are simply throwing accusations around to keep the drama going?  Wink
legendary
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Sandrine admits they are envisioning compensating people who are posting here.  
That = paid shills.  She blatantly admits it!

Analogies are getting interesting (not that they always weren't)...

http://i.imgur.com/jeYVMB6.jpg


That's funny and good timing, because I just wanted to write that I believe that their biggest problem since the start is Paycoin. They went public in a time people slowly understood that XPY was/is a Scam, watching their Investments going down. And even if the Neucoin-Design is different to Paycoin, the marketing under the line is the same: "Give-us-your-money-because-we-are-big-and-professional".

And everybody can think about it, how things would be if there would have been the XPY-Desaster... I believe much more people would have reacted positive and happy to send money etc. And most likely the Neucoin-Super-Team would've been much faster.

Funny is by the way, what they claimed in the ANN: "NeuCoin’s founding team, which started the NeuCoin Project in March (...)"

Would like to know how they define the word "start". Does it mean they're working since March 14 at it and are still not ready for a launch? Hard to believe anything of all what they say.
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Sandrine admits they are envisioning compensating people who are posting here.  
That = paid shills.  She blatantly admits it!

Analogies are getting interesting (not that they always weren't)...

http://i.imgur.com/jeYVMB6.jpg
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political

http://forum.neucoin.org/t/pre-launch-updates/1268/64

Chris,
"Another question: Are moderators part of the neucoin-team? I remember that some of them started as normal users. Since they post mostly positive feedback, I wonder if they get paid for "moderating"."

Sandrine,
"Moderators are not part of the NeuCoin team and were chosen based on their involvement on the forum"

Another half answer.

Ah good, Chris is re-asking,
"Sorry if I missed something in your post, but I have to ask again. Do moderators get paid?"

and the answer,
" sorry for the unclear answers:
- Moderators are not paid for now, but we were indeed envisioning compensating a few of them (in restricted NeuCoins) for the time spent on the forum and on Bitcointalk in the near future when we'll officially launch and will need more help on this side. What do you think about this?"
- It will take months to regain trust as the non-test version is running - and the non-test versions will be released before the end of September. Here is something I just wrote to @m3ndi3 who is worried about yesterday's announcement on this subject: "I'd like to let you know though that we have been testing MyNeuCoin and NeuCoin for months now. It's just very different to test them in closed environment and to open it to a wider audience. These "test versions" will be very close to the final versions - you can look at it as us making two identical launches, but one that is "fake" in order for us to do further bug hunting in a more open environment." And no worries, you're not annoying at all!

The BS is endless, "paid shills on BCT,"
M3ndi3, are you getting paid? But have you lost the faith now?

Sandrine admits they are envisioning compensating people who are posting here. 
That = paid shills.  She blatantly admits it!
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I think we are close to discover the truth!!
i remeber all what Sandrine http://forum.neucoin.org/users/Sandrine/activity said

"Our current estimation is that the NeuCoin cryptocurrency, MyNeuCoin and GetNeuCoin will launch between August 6th and August 13th."

but i guess this date will be delayed

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

just a few hours to understand better

The REAL launch HAS been cancelled until just before the btc refund deadline.
(Hell, even the test nokoin is getting released "in the comming weeks")

Sandrine,
"the only thing I can answer is what I have already said: I'll just clearly state our mistakes as objectively as I can:
- We have been over promising on the deadlines
- We have not communicated enough since the end of the presale
- I have not delivered when I said I would communicate
On the other hand:
- We are Aug 5th, we will release a test-version in the coming weeks so presale buyers will be able to see what has been happening on our end since May 2nd.
- Before the end of September, we will collect feedback, and be able to integrate everything we have learned from the test version in the official version we will launch
- Over the months following September, we will release and be able to fund external projects around games and micropayments.
Let me know what doesn't make sense in what was written above."

Sandrine very little you say makes sense.
So, "we will release a test-version in the coming weeks" means even the test version may not be released by 13 Aug?
And, "Before the end of September, we will collect feedback, and be able to integrate everything we have learned from the test version in the official version we will launch".
Yeah right, integrate all you have learned in a 1 or 2 week deadline? That would be a first!
Also, "Over the months following September, we will release...." More dreams.

Whatever BS nokoin exists at deadline will be launched. No refund required.
legendary
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https://locktrip.com/?refId=40964
I think we are close to discover the truth!!
i remeber all what Sandrine http://forum.neucoin.org/users/Sandrine/activity said

"Our current estimation is that the NeuCoin cryptocurrency, MyNeuCoin and GetNeuCoin will launch between August 6th and August 13th."

but i guess this date will be delayed

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

just a few hours to understand better
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http://forum.neucoin.org/t/pre-launch-updates/1268/64

Chris,
"Another question: Are moderators part of the neucoin-team? I remember that some of them started as normal users. Since they post mostly positive feedback, I wonder if they get paid for "moderating"."

Sandrine,
"Moderators are not part of the NeuCoin team and were chosen based on their involvement on the forum"

Another half answer.

Ah good, Chris is re-asking,
"Sorry if I missed something in your post, but I have to ask again. Do moderators get paid?"

and the answer,
" sorry for the unclear answers:
- Moderators are not paid for now, but we were indeed envisioning compensating a few of them (in restricted NeuCoins) for the time spent on the forum and on Bitcointalk in the near future when we'll officially launch and will need more help on this side. What do you think about this?"
- It will take months to regain trust as the non-test version is running - and the non-test versions will be released before the end of September. Here is something I just wrote to @m3ndi3 who is worried about yesterday's announcement on this subject: "I'd like to let you know though that we have been testing MyNeuCoin and NeuCoin for months now. It's just very different to test them in closed environment and to open it to a wider audience. These "test versions" will be very close to the final versions - you can look at it as us making two identical launches, but one that is "fake" in order for us to do further bug hunting in a more open environment." And no worries, you're not annoying at all!

The BS is endless, "paid shills on BCT,"
M3ndi3, are you getting paid? But have you lost the faith now?
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So as we all expected (apart from "investors" ) its all BULLSHIT, right?

Right.
Why the hell did Sandrine mislead us all here, (and on nokoin forum) Again?

July 21
"Our current estimation is that the NeuCoin cryptocurrency, MyNeuCoin and GetNeuCoin will launch between August 6th and August 13th."

now,
" Over the month of August, the test environment will be gradually opened up to presale buyers and select invitees as we approach the public launch."

Deceit? - Marketing speak? - BS?

It must now be time for NOKOIN to ask the "Real" Dart question,
(Angel could also speak out)
"Who want's their btc back, and who wants to carry on with this nokoin BS?"

The situation will probably plummet from here, as Jonald asked,
"By the time this coin is actually released and works and is listed on an exchange, who is going to want it?"
(nokoin is still a long way from achieving any of that)

I know it's not in the t&c to get a refund because nokoin is BS, quite the opposite.
So nokoin wont ask this Question.
It will have to be asked by a nokoiner.

Idifin says,
"It's tough for me to answer this. I invested knowing that it was a significant risk with a potentially significant payoff to counterbalance the risk."

I thought the normal business start up "risks" applied, not the nokoin team doing nothing BS?
This is a self inflicted failure of nokoin, not an outside agency.
nokoin has delivered nothing.

I know some will support nokoin, whatever,
Dart mod,
James mod,
Baby mod, (he would if he had invested, anyway, he doesn't seem to have access to a computer in the school hols so cannot comment now)
Sky, "I couldn't care less if it will take 1 week or 6 months until we see a beta or anything else"
Superman, "Thanks for your vigorous sacrifice...."
and a few more..

There are equally as many who have lost faith.

"Who want's their btc back, and who wants to carry on with this nokoin BS?"
For transparency, don't we need this question asked on NOKOIN FORUM?

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So as we all expected (apart from "investors" ) its all BULLSHIT, right?
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Aw Dart, it's no good anymore, now you have changed the thread title, and edited your question.

"Would you rebuy into the coin?" was a much more relevant question than "current thoughts now and then"
(and has already been replied to by windtalkers and Idifin)


NoKoiners Ain't Foolin' Nobody!


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