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Topic: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official - page 103. (Read 196191 times)

newbie
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Really, we are having a field day
with this...

Hey, I can laugh with you guys, right?

If NeuCoin ends up being a scam, I'm going to suggest that the mascot "Tippy" be retroactively changed to the Huggle Bunny:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HySaK9kj7y8

(From my kid's favorite cartoon)
newbie
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I'm sorry you chose to invest in this.  Perhaps it works out and you'll get
at least some of your money back.  Really, we are having a field day
with this...but hope for your sake they get on the ball at least enough
to release something functional.

I agree that moderator is acting like a mental midget.

Thank you for the sentiment.

Things like this are kind of like lottery tickets. If you lose you lose a little, and if it hits you win big. When I first got involved in bitcoin everyone thought that was a scam, and loads of people still do. People were peeing themselves when it was trading for $1 on MtGox a few years ago, and when it hit $30 people were going nuts, and you even saw news stories on Yahoo! about it. People used to freak out in those early days about the cost of mining with video cards exceeding the value of the coin ("it'll never ROI" was a common lament then, as it is now that ASICs are around). If only we were still worried about the electricity to run a video card. I never really understood someone mining and expecting an immediate ROI, then or now.

The bitcoin that I still have left were basically free given today's prices. I sold most when the value hit $700 (I never thought it would go to over $1000+ when it did) a while back. It was a complete and total windfall. While I hate losing money, even on a small bet like NeuCoin, it won't kill me. I only put in an amount that I can tolerate losing. I will be the guy who pursues them legally, across boundaries, if that becomes necessary, but I don't think it will.

I really don't think NeuCoin is a scam (unless PnD is considered a scam). I think it might be a PnD, and I don't see PnD as a scam, as long as you hit the "D" part right, and I wouldn't want to be the guy doing the "P" part. I knew going in that there were some questionable people involved, but there are some mitigating factors. In any event, part of the reason I bought in is simply for the contact list of some of the people involved (if they're really involved). If anything is likely to drive value post-launch that is.

Comparing NeuCoin to other known scams, I just don't see it. Gawminers was clearly a scam from the beginning that set off all kinds of alarms. Moolah was also very clearly a scam from the get go. I can't remember all of the others at the moment, but most seem fairly obvious.

I knew the risk going in, so no reason to feel sorry for me.
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political

Idifin's days on nokoin forum are numbered?
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/pre-launch-updates/1268/107

He's already been told
"I expect you to apologize here for creating slander and hearsay about my person"
"you are one cocky ass - go into a corner and shame yourself"
(now withdrawn by sky)

and dart just chipped in
"I understand you're a bit upset, but really man that's a bit creepy. Which there's no real rule against creepy but still. You want to be anonymous okay, but don't be stalker-ish about it."

Idifins crime?
Trying to talk sense. Shocked


Here's my latest post, as I think it's the most likely one to be taken down:

James said: No one should trust you since you've admitted that your ghosting the forum. I certainly don't trust your opinion.

(keep in mind, this is a moderator)

My response:

Right...

James, I think you brought the mental equivalent of a knife to a gunfight.

There's no rule here that says I have to sign up with my primary email address. Nor is there a rule that says I have to identify who I am. Why would I?

I don't know who you are or what you do, nor do I know who windtalkers is or what he does, or any of the other people participating in the forum. That's not a requirement to participate here.

It's definitely not the role of a moderator to challenge my desire to remain anonymous, nor is it within the bounds of your role to discredit my opinion.

Again, I'd really like to see you guys get more on track here and have a better discussion about the real issues.

I'm sorry you chose to invest in this.  Perhaps it works out and you'll get
at least some of your money back.  Really, we are having a field day
with this...but hope for your sake they get on the ball at least enough
to release something functional.

I agree that moderator is acting like a mental midget.
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0

Idifin's days on nokoin forum are numbered?
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/pre-launch-updates/1268/107

He's already been told
"I expect you to apologize here for creating slander and hearsay about my person"
"you are one cocky ass - go into a corner and shame yourself"
(now withdrawn by sky)

and dart just chipped in
"I understand you're a bit upset, but really man that's a bit creepy. Which there's no real rule against creepy but still. You want to be anonymous okay, but don't be stalker-ish about it."

Idifins crime?
Trying to talk sense. Shocked


Here's my latest post, as I think it's the most likely one to be taken down:

James said: No one should trust you since you've admitted that your ghosting the forum. I certainly don't trust your opinion.

(keep in mind, this is a moderator)

My response:

Right...

James, I think you brought the mental equivalent of a knife to a gunfight.

There's no rule here that says I have to sign up with my primary email address. Nor is there a rule that says I have to identify who I am. Why would I?

I don't know who you are or what you do, nor do I know who windtalkers is or what he does, or any of the other people participating in the forum. That's not a requirement to participate here.

It's definitely not the role of a moderator to challenge my desire to remain anonymous, nor is it within the bounds of your role to discredit my opinion.

Again, I'd really like to see you guys get more on track here and have a better discussion about the real issues.
newbie
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Moderator responsibilities are just to the neu forum. We come here to support the coin and make sure newcomers see it's not just trolls.

btw, my brother not my mum, and there's no referral bonus to get people to sign up on the forum right now.

Do you have something against granola? Cause those be fightin' words.

 And James and I both bought in at 1 cent.

Yeah, I'm not real sure why this thread seems to think that Darteous and James are shills? I'm probably the person coming down hardest on Neucoin at the moment and I don't think either of them are shills.

A shill is someone paid to give unconditional support, and generally people aren't aware that they are a shill.

They're moderators, whose jobs is to keep the forum working smoothly. If Neucoin wants to pay moderators, and is open about it as they've been, then that's their choice. Moderator does not equal shill. To some extent moderators are going to likely lean towards support of the project, but I don't see "shill" in any of what either of those guys are doing.

I do think you could make a case for some of the others posting unconditional love and support either being team members or fake accounts. Not sure, and it's impossible to say.

I don't know if you have spent enough time on bitcointalk forums, idifin, but I have and it is pretty normal to be called all sorts of names here. Just make a visit to the altcoin discussion forum and you'll know what I'm talking about.

Most people here are either what are called bitcoin maximalists or people who have made investments into other coins and use these forums to put down any new coin that shows potential so it doesn't eat into their marketcap.

Some of these people are also miners who like to troll on new coins so that too many miners do not compete and mining difficulty can be kept low. There are also others who like to troll on new coins so that some pre-sale or early investors are scared into dumping their positions into the market so these can be picked up on the cheap.

In short, opinions on bitcointalk should always be taken with a pinch (or rather a bucket) of salt.  Smiley

Nope, I haven't spent much time here, but I can see what you're saying. I take anything said on any forum with a bucket of salt.
hero member
Activity: 481
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Woking as a binman sucks.
today i found this great project...

interesting...looking

How much are they paying you? This project did nothing but lose me money. What did it do for you?
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1001

Torrgeek,
"True..as with any coin or any product we'll have to wait for the launch to find out how much and how well they deliver. I'm excited to find out what's in store."

LiQio.
"No, projects of that size and estimated complexity don't let you wait for the final launch to find out what can be expected but instead favor beta phases, public betas, test-nets, peer reviews, etc."

rizz,
"Will the next update be the rescheduling of launch?"

Sandrine,
"But right now, just prior to launch, the priority is not communication but the critical tech and business development needed to actually launch in the summer and launch successfully."

 BS Wink
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1001

Idifin's days on nokoin forum are numbered?
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/pre-launch-updates/1268/107

He's already been told
"I expect you to apologize here for creating slander and hearsay about my person"
"you are one cocky ass - go into a corner and shame yourself"
(now withdrawn by sky)

and dart just chipped in
"I understand you're a bit upset, but really man that's a bit creepy. Which there's no real rule against creepy but still. You want to be anonymous okay, but don't be stalker-ish about it."

Idifins crime?
Trying to talk sense. Shocked
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1001
Still looking forward to this coins launch.


Disclaimer: I'm the being of pure Awesomeness, Gameness, and Skills. In the cyber realm known as Darteous that graces the Neucoin forum with moderating.  Cool


^Good enough? It says on the forum that I'm a moderator and have never kept that a secret. And we're not getting paid anything yet.

Hey nice,
sorry I ask questions nokoiners never thought of asking BTW.

Dart, are you going to be rewarded in the future (at launch maybe) for work you are doing now?

Edit,
Dart also who's post is being deleted as we speak?
newbie
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Still looking forward to this coins launch.


Disclaimer: I'm the being of pure Awesomeness, Gameness, and Skills. In the cyber realm known as Darteous that graces the Neucoin forum with moderating.  Cool


^Good enough? It says on the forum that I'm a moderator and have never kept that a secret. And we're not getting paid anything yet.
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
A shill is someone paid to give unconditional support

and generally people aren't aware that they are a shill.

They're moderators, whose jobs is to keep the forum working smoothly. If Neucoin wants to pay moderators, and is open about it as they've been, then that's their choice.

Moderator responsibilities are just to the neu forum.


We come here to support the coin and make sure newcomers see it's not just trolls.

Quote from: Josh Garza     http://i.imgur.com/jeYVMB6.jpg
The point is not for the trolls. It’s for new people looking.



I therefore propose that Dart should attach a signature at the bottom of each of his posts on bitcointalk: "Disclaimer: The author gets paid for posting here."
full member
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^lol i hope you are joking.

They have delivered nothing!
legendary
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K-ing®
today i found this great project...

interesting...looking
hero member
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Merit: 500
Let me put the question to you Torrgeek:  Why did they need the 2000 bitcoins?  They are in escrow.  They didn't need them to pay for developing the coin, evidently.  So they just took them from people like you and locked them up in a legally opaque offshore tax haven doing nothing (except gaining $200k in value while NoKoins still don't exist).

Why did they need you to give them your BTC? What do you think it's for?

The answer is quite simple. To build a community within the crypto space and to have a small group of stakers to start off when the coin launches since it is a PoS coin. It also helps spread the word. Pre-sales are not always only about raising funds though raising funds is certainly a part of it.

Plus, it is not as if funds are never required after a coin launches. That would be ridiculous. There are post-development costs too associated with marketing, offering bounties to contributors etc.

Ah...between this delicious popcorn and all the Kool-aid you've drunk, this is quite a party.
newbie
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Let me put the question to you Torrgeek:  Why did they need the 2000 bitcoins?  They are in escrow.  They didn't need them to pay for developing the coin, evidently.  So they just took them from people like you and locked them up in a legally opaque offshore tax haven doing nothing (except gaining $200k in value while NoKoins still don't exist).

Why did they need you to give them your BTC? What do you think it's for?

The answer is quite simple. To build a community within the crypto space and to have a small group of stakers to start off when the coin launches since it is a PoS coin. It also helps spread the word. Pre-sales are not always only about raising funds though raising funds is certainly a part of it.

Plus, it is not as if funds are never required after a coin launches. That would be ridiculous. There are post-development costs too associated with marketing, offering bounties to contributors etc.
hero member
Activity: 545
Merit: 500
how many people scammed by this coin??

i remember when this coin on crowdsale,, it was almost 2000 btc, right? so what happen to them? the one who bought this coin?

Nothing happened to them. Nobody was scammed. The coin is scheduled to release, albeit with delays, either this month or the next. Most probably the next month.

Let me put the question to you Torrgeek:  Why did they need the 2000 bitcoins?  They are in escrow.  They didn't need them to pay for developing the coin, evidently.  So they just took them from people like you and locked them up in a legally opaque offshore tax haven doing nothing (except gaining $200k in value while NoKoins still don't exist).

Why did they need you to give them your BTC? What do you think it's for?
newbie
Activity: 38
Merit: 0
how many people scammed by this coin??

i remember when this coin on crowdsale,, it was almost 2000 btc, right? so what happen to them? the one who bought this coin?

Nothing happened to them. Nobody was scammed. The coin is scheduled to release, albeit with delays, either this month or the next. Most probably the next month.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 500
how many people scammed by this coin??

i remember when this coin on crowdsale,, it was almost 2000 btc, right? so what happen to them? the one who bought this coin?
newbie
Activity: 38
Merit: 0

release the coin already, this is getting boring. 


Now, that is something I wholeheartedly agree with! :beer:
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1008
Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
Moderator responsibilities are just to the neu forum. We come here to support the coin and make sure newcomers see it's not just trolls.

btw, my brother not my mum, and there's no referral bonus to get people to sign up on the forum right now.

Do you have something against granola? Cause those be fightin' words.

 And James and I both bought in at 1 cent.

Yeah, I'm not real sure why this thread seems to think that Darteous and James are shills? I'm probably the person coming down hardest on Neucoin at the moment and I don't think either of them are shills.

A shill is someone paid to give unconditional support, and generally people aren't aware that they are a shill.

They're moderators, whose jobs is to keep the forum working smoothly. If Neucoin wants to pay moderators, and is open about it as they've been, then that's their choice. Moderator does not equal shill. To some extent moderators are going to likely lean towards support of the project, but I don't see "shill" in any of what either of those guys are doing.

I do think you could make a case for some of the others posting unconditional love and support either being team members or fake accounts. Not sure, and it's impossible to say.

Sandrine just made it sound like she wanted to pay people to give unconditional support.

whatevs... 

release the coin already, this is getting boring. 

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