Topic: [ANN] NeuCoin - Easy to use, free to try, focused on micropayments - Official - page 117. (Read 196221 times)

You must not have followed TAK. They were not a scam. The dev got in contact with an associate of Takei and had aligned with her organization. They spent weeks getting in touch with Takei and ended up finding that Takeis lawyers had been giving them the run around. So instead of pushing the launch back, they launched while in the meantime they continued working to get in touch with Takei, they didn't lie about anything. But when they did get in touch with Takei he turned them down and then told his associate not to affiliate herself or her organization with the coin. Which killed the coin. They did not put out any false claims. It wasn't expected that Takei would tell his friend to pull back from being associated with the coin. The coin had merit.

My job is to be a moderator, you don't have to be the best to be a moderator, just interested/informed about the project and have some people skills.

Also take a look at http://forum.neucoin.org/t/fundraising-activities/1284/12
Another disgruntled user (investor) gives up on nokoin.

You guys need to ask for that refund maybe?

Well, this fits. A year ago a newbie, then involved in TAK (which was a scam), and now they took the best they could find as a moderator.

I became a moderator as of April tenth. It was publicly announced.

If you take a look at the wiki it names the members of the team and the various advisers.
http://www.neucoin.org/en/wiki/#team

So you admit that you are working for NeuCoin. Good to know. So who are these "successful" people?  Pierce? DanK? People who have a past which is more than shady?

And regarding the terms and conditions: You may think that they are valid? They are, in certain jurisdictions, not. Because they basically tell the investors: "We take your money and you don't have any rights". So believe me: If an investor asks that the money be returned, and if this is not done within due time, such an investor will be able to sue identifyable NoCoin-people like Sandrine in another jurisdiction than the one of the Seychelles.

And I don't know if you ever had to deal with a big case in the Seychelles. But believe me: More than ten complaints at the FTC, and you're in trouble.

TaunSew are you a misogynist too? I didn't realize bitcointalk was a place of collection for you guys.

I believe that it's already been established that Neu is being run by a group of very successful people, that's why most of us believe it will succeed. So it comes as no surprise that many of them already have a fair amount of money. That's what happens when intelligent people come together and make something, they end up making good money. I'm happy to have the opportunity to be an early adopter of their project, I may get to meet some of the team at some point. I look forward to watching them progress and seeing how they handle the various dynamics.

And to answer an earlier question, no I don't want my BTC back, I'd prefer my Neucoins upon launch.

And someone suggested suing if Neu didn't give people the money back in ten days if demanded. All presale accepted the terms and conditions. We are by no means due any of our money back until October 1st, and that's if the coin doesn't launch.

sigh...not only that but if you look in the forum section of this thread, there's
pages and pages of other altcoins that are taking people's money.

Maybe it's similar to watching old ladies at a Vegas slot machine...sitting
there for endless hours, chain smoking, putting their quarters in.

Anything for some stimulation and hope of getting rich.  But I think
you would be better off playing satoshidice than investing in most
of these alts.

http://www.foxtons.co.uk/properties/uk-london-shoreditch-202/properties-for-sale-in-shoreditch.html

Definitely did not afford her place on a secretary's salary, at least not many secretaries in the world can afford $4 - $5 million real estate.    Now you know why they went IPO - the good life is not cheap!

Even an accomplished middle upper class professional, with 6 years of education, 10 years on the job and in senior management, would not be able to live in that neighborhood.    So spare us the bullshit about being an accounting or a MBA graduate (or whatever Sandrine graduated as) and that you worked hard to live in that neighborhood.  You can make your standard MBA lower six figure salary for the next 40 years and never afford that neighborhood.   By the time you are middle aged, and work up to that half million complete package and taxes take their sizeable cut out, you would find it tough to live in that neighborhood.  There are many Presidents and Vice Presidents of publicly traded companies who can't afford a neighborhood like Shoreditch



Yet we are to believe some younger woman has her own house in that neighborhood.

Definitely appears to be the case that she could be one of Kaufman's mistresses (and its' his house), or belongs to one of his business partners, or she had her share in Kaufman's scams.

"Now you know why they went IPO - the good life is not cheap!"


No wonder so many people have a sour impression of cryptocurrency.  We have reminders of people like the NeuCoin founders, who are already multi-millionaires several times over from past 'questionable' businesses (spyware and possibly malware empires), and yet they are here to swindle people out of their hard earned money.  It's disgusting.

If I were an investor, I'd ask for a refund, give them a timeframe of 10 days to comply and if they don't, I'd file a lawsuit.

Luckily, Sandrine as one of the main promotors of this fraud has posted nice pictures of her home and thus her address:

https://www.airbnb.co.uk/rooms/6955798

I agree with Jonald,
Returned btc equals no scam?
Angels and Sandrine could save face by instigating this?
More investors need to demand refund also? (If that IS what they want)

However,
Dank would have to do the right thing.
Investors were warned in the T+C of presale they will be given any shitkoin, as nokoin, before any refund is facilitated.
Hard to see a refund given when the Torrgeek's actually still WANT their nokoin.
Only investors carry any weight in this matter.

I'm not invested, no refund due to me.
Hey Dart, do you want your btc back or would you prefer nokoin?
Any other investors now want their btc back?

BTW - Why not even ONE investor asking ANY serious questions here, or more obviously, on nokoin forum?

wow.  just wow.  

everyone is just against this (rightfully so)

even the bitshares and nxt communities have no love for neucoin.
(maybe one or two people who want the free neucoins)

https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/neucoin-distribution-program-to-nxt-holders/
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,15755.0.html

what an epic fail.  

Dan Kaufman, maybe you should consider how you can stop being such an opportunist and think
on how you can create value in a business where your customers actually
love and respect you and WANT to exchange their money for a product or service
that will uplift their life.  

No one wants or needs spyware or a premined presold copycat altcoin.

I'm actually going to encourage you to honor your promise to refund investors' money
by September 30th as you agreed.  It will be a really good karmic move for you
in my humble opinion. Please consider it.

That is the PERFECT name for most of these new alts!!!!!!  LMFAO....Can I have it??   LieTOme ya gotta love it!!!

community still growing and strong . thank for appreciate and everything about support . we all family

I am hoping it gets a good release because I bought into it.  I AM getting tired of no more info.  This coin should have been launched in the spring.  Now it is almost July and no launch or news in sight.  Except for the launch has been pushed back to August now...I think.  A lot of people are getting pissed now.  I try to keep a cool head but it is even getting to ME!  I think the coin has potential.  I just want to launch.  They are holding mine and everyone elses money and not even giving us the respect to come in here and say something and move things forward.  I am getting really tired of these so called devs putting out coins that either don't work or either they drop their load right at first after the mining and before the stake...if it even works.  I want my wallet released and my coins.  Otherwise give my btc back.  I am sure that will happen.  This needs to release NOW!  It is getting way to much crap thrown at it.  Looks to me like some of the crap is sticking too.  Lets just draw this thing out until the coin is totally worthless.
I have been mining bitcoin for a long time and I have never seen so much crap with all these altcoins, although I have made some btc off some.  It is still getting to be a pain to deal with liars and cheats.  It used to not be this way.  There have always been some bad apples but this is just turning into something where most of the devs are totally crooked and screw anyone they can.

Respect to the REAL Devs!!

Got popcorn?

Doge
http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/33l8nt/of_wolves_and_weasels_day_470_neucoin_concerns/
http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/33hdvo/feedback_needed_neucoin_distribution_to_dogecoin/

Peer
https://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=4075.0

Black
http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/32pcga/neucoin_distribution_program_to_blackcoin_holders/

It is! Popcorn Xtra Large!

Here's my favourite: Jackson Palmer SubredditDrama - The Full Story

http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/33motg/the_creator_of_dogecoin_is_divesting_all_his/

woah, really?  that's interesting.  any links?  this is popcorn worthy.

No it's not the "same with every crypto currency out there".

Only the pre-mined ones, or the one's who do ICO's even have "people at the top".

Good coins don't have ANY "people at the top".  And smart people know that.

NoKoin has both an ENOURMOUS pre-mine handed out to "people at the top" and sold at a steep discount to their friends AND they pre-sold part of that pre-mine at higher prices to the public (whom they refer to as "trailer-cash"--that's you Torrgeek.  DanK laughs his ass off in the office and calls you "trailer cash").

Contrast that with Doge.  No pre-mine.  No Initial coin offering.  Nobody at the "Top".

Unobtanium went out of it's way to have nobody at the top.  4 coins were mined by the Dev to make sure it worked.  Then it was announced and Unobtanium mining started with a block reward of .001 for the first 2000 blocks so that miners had time to find out about it and point their miners towards it before anyone was able to get an unfair advantage.

From block 2001 the block reward was 1 kg per block, halving every 100,000 blocks and finishing with a minimum subsidy of .0001 after 15 halvings.  There are currently only about 195,000 of them in existence, today worth about $2.60 a piece.  Here is the whole Eco-system that has been built around it over the past year and a half:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527500.0

Not trying to sell you UNO, although anyone who doesn't have any has their head up their ass.

Telling you about this to point out that a good altcoin is the opposite of everything NoKoin is.  You guys who bought into it have fallen into cognitive dissonance.

Every alt-coin community out there that was approached by Sandrine told you the same thing:  "We want nothing to do with Neucoin because it is BOTH pre-mined and pre-sold.  That makes it unfair and ripe for abuse because every coin that has had a pre-mine has had a scandle attached to it.  Every single one.

Here's a list of some of them:  http://altcoins.com/scamcoins

Nobody in the altcoin community even wants Neucoins for free.  People who know about altcoins think Neucoin is less than worthless:  it was specifically designed to steal from people who don't understand the short history of altcoins.  Neucoin was created to hurt people.  That is worse than worthless.  It is evil.

You guys just don't want to believe that you were ripped off by professional, serial Internet scammers who refer to you among themselves as "trailer cash".

So your statement, "that is the same with every crypto out there" is demonstrably false and you are wrong about this, and oh so many other things.

If you insist on ignoring the very recent history of all pre-mined coins and you insist on ignoring the dubious, well documented history of the people who did this to you, there is nothing we can do to help you.

There are hundreds of coins like Doge and UNO that you could have bought that do not have anyone "at the top".  But you bought yet another pre-mine, that was also ICO'd by FAMOUS Internet fraud guys.  You chose that.

Sorry for your loss.  Next time you will understand that pre-mine is bad, giving money to serial Internet scammers is bad, and you won't do that.

That is the same with every crypto currency out there. Hell, it is the same with many other commodities as well. Why single out neucoin?

Maybe not in the traditional sense, but still, you're talking about the people at the top selling  site owners on selling neucoin to their people...
with the promise that "we can get even more people sold" on it. 

I agree, it is "fantastic"