Topic: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source - page 193. (Read 748250 times)

The problem is people are stupid. They ask for low prices but don't buy.

Nxt price was only 0.00005 btc a couple of weeks ago but nobody was buying. But lots of people bought at 0.00012-0.00016.

Would it be the other way? If he has bitcoin, he can only be buying, how is he holding the price down? You can hold it down only if you got Qoras

At any rate, no price is a crime, the price is what the market thinks the coin is worth. Why so low? Because you guys don't do the leg work, because few of you have vested interest in doing anything for Qora.

I have to agree with dzarmush.My post has nothing to do with you gorillajam, but I have to agree and let me clear my thoughts below.
We need to build a strong community by supporting Qora, expose the potentials of Qora's, highlight the features and particularities, moving forward with Qora and if possible move the entire "world" with Qora.
We must avoid the "get rich and get rich fast" and we definitely must avoid to became controversial.
We need to support development, embrace it and contribute in there.
A simple "phrase", a simple idea could became the most impressing project.And that's what we need to do.

Things like, vote on mintpal, bter please add qora, buy now, loathing other coins are thinks that has nothing to do with Qora in frontline at this moment... are just speculating methods and "provisional impressions".
I do not say that we don't need exchanges or not to support Qora on FUD's and trolls but the point is that we simple need a "strategy".
We cannot have it in one day, but we need to focus on that and sure, one day we will feeling more excited than we are now.

Thanks

I'm not sure people are that negative about POS. They want to hear its a 'fair' POS thats all. Which for Qora that isn't that hard.

Those who hold to POW as superior are starting to look like Dinosaurs really. The recent Bitcoin problems with Ghash 51% is making POS look better too.


One thing I suggest is that we don't try to ignore and argue with trolls too much. Use them as a way to explain again and again why Qora is great. They help things by keeping the thread near the top and people talking about Qora. Having heavy trolling is a badge of honor for a new coin.

There is a grain of truth in what you are saying. I have been saying from the start, price is everything and showing the price moving is everything in crypto!

I again sound arrogant but I want responsibility for the early push up to 80 sats. I was saying people need to go in and buy up Qora and push the price up, 10 BTC can push the coin 50%, then it snowballs on Coinmarketcap.

You argument is similar but you want people to sell cheap. Problem is many have like 1% of coins, no whales to feel generous to sell off cheap. ironically too many people in POS actually produces price stability not instability what people say.

I agree on one thing. People need to see a price gain and movement which is why im happy if the price drops like a stone. Now any small drops are bought up, its happening now, its just very slow. Someone is keeping a lid on the small vol by doing little fake orders that make it look like the price is dropping. At some point it will rocket, but its slow.

People with coins should sell some off imo. I did myself after I bought some with BTC just to oil the wheels.

get excited, sell some coins, buy some coins, but don't let us sit on our hands anymore.


To the Moon!!!!


Under 50 vol is a crime for this coin on one exchange whether the price is going up or down! I swear one guy is holding the price down with about 1 BTC! crazy!

Exactly! So your best bet is to sell at NXT AE at lower prices and promote Qora in NXT threads and nxtforum.org even. There is an alternative currencies subforum there. PoS communities must unite!

I'm not saying it's bad. But there's a room for some improvements Especially if someone from us posts in 2nd gen coins threads. It's much easier to talk to people invested in POS coins coz they're fine with POS and limited number of initial stakeholders. It's almost impossible to deal with POW fanatics so we need to have good relations among other POS coins.

Here is what I'll tell you.
Original stakeholders don't have a lot of interest to do the leg work, because they got their coins so cheap they already cashed out their original investment, they won't lose anything now even if Qora's price doesn't go up. They are not good marketers for Qora.

The best marketer for a coin is a person who purchased the coin at market price. That coin becomes his vested interest and he works his ass off to promote it.

Hence, your goal is to get more people on board so that more people have vested interest in promoting Qora. How do you do that? I've been telling you a few times - sell at cheaper prices, the price will later recover if the technology is good, but then Qora will have more people on its side who do the leg work promoting it, because they have vested interest. Some of you guys will call me a troll for suggesting to sell at a lower price. I don't care. You think logically and you will know I am right.

I got tired of people saying they had never heard of Qora. I decided stiring things up and getting people talking was better than being almost unheard of. Sometimes a sledgehammer is needed. Actually I've been defending NXT along the way if you read what I have posted.

I'm just one guy, I end up looking like some ambassador also for Qora cause no one else is talking about it. I should be just one passionate user among another 130 stakeholders. I am fully aware i'm not being subtle, but sadly even trolls are informing people about this coin more than average stakeholder.

In fact I found when I started threads and people started arguing with me, the vol jumped up. Little bit arrogant but at least people were talking about Qora.

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/there-is-no-such-thing-as-bad-publicity.html

Some of your posts actually look pretty glaringly. You can't post things like: "you better start buying Qora before it's too late" in Nxt and other important for us coins threads.

I partially agree. I think Qora holding back offical marketing has left us a bit in a grey zone plus we aren't involved in development like NXT had.


I actually think its not just about active community doing stuff its the lack of cheerleading!!!

Most threads have loads of blah blah coin to the moon etc! Most activity on threads is hype and discussion on price. Almost no discussion on price here. I did my bit by simply talking about Qora on other threads but almost no one came to back me up so I look like some scam pumper rather than passionate user.


We got to at least get excited about unique features like voting! Starting a thread will take 5 minutes. I will if no one else does, but another name on it sure would be better.

If you guys dont mind then I can start a new thread about the new voting system in qora. Please suggest on what should be the content. Again it's upto you, as i am new to BTT. Infact, I am totally new to the whole crypto-currency thing

Because you like to?

He's actually got the point. He didn't say anything about Qora, only about initial stakeholders. For now there's only one person who did significant amount of work - Agran.

Well, if you know, do something!
Like start selling coins cheaper, start buying name aliases on the alias exchange, at least those with reasonable price tags.

I know, will we ever reach the heights of credibility and quality of NEM or Dogecoin! One can only dream. (sarcasm)




Why i bother answering you I don't know, I guess fro any listeners. BUT the Developer has actually said he doesn't intend to focus on marketing until all the functions of the coin are done. So technically official marketing is yet to start we are in development stage. The marketing that is being talked about is really from individuals who want to spread the word a bit. All we are talking about is telling people what has been achieved in terms of development. Which is pretty powerful actually.

First voting system in a crypto, first move advantage! We should be shouting from the rooftops!


you want get rich quick try a shitcoin clone like crypt, Silkcoin, etc.

Qora is a get rich slow coin.

No marketing, one (talented) dev and a lot of get-rich-quick types waiting for the price of Qora to magically jump up without them lifting a finger for it to happen. Perfect storm if you ask me

Definitely someone else.  

Ok so where are all the people that said we have to do more marketing etc in the last few pages.  

You could do it under a sockpuppet Dzarmush. 

I think that's exactly the reason for you (or someone else) to start a new thread I've been posting so much that some people actually started to think that I'm a Qora speakerman of something like that, although I'm just a guy with lots of free time and desire to see Qora successful.

We need more active people.

Its coming very soon on the website. I hope they actually do a real PDF link with the info. people are dogmatic, thay want to see a 'Whitepaper' not just the information of a whitepaper.