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Topic: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - page 370. (Read 1382190 times)

legendary
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December 19, 2015, 02:32:07 PM
really like the new SIA feel and look. tried it earlier this year... I think you guys are a serious competition to storj Smiley
legendary
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December 19, 2015, 12:22:24 PM
Welcome to the club.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
December 19, 2015, 12:18:07 PM
Guys big problem, in need of assistance :


I have wallet 0.33 beta.2 b383       sia version 0.3.3.3


I had 2500KS balance, i've sent a few times 270ks to a new wallet on another PC, from about 7 transfers only 3 made it through.

Now the problem is that the balance still shows me 2500KS and any new transfers won't work, even though at first it was showing that it sent but in reality it didn't now after a few restarts it says : Error calling /wallet/send :



Please advise.
hero member
Activity: 543
Merit: 501
December 19, 2015, 06:09:41 AM
Personally, I would never save on SIA network nothing more than a THIRD copy of my files until I see thousands of hosts running.

Why? There is absolutely no need for that.

I think you have a mis-perception about what is required to keep data secure. Amazon doesn't have thousands of hosts, they put your data in single datacenter. The next version will have better redundancy information so you can see how your files are doing, but to the best of my knowledge no file has ever been lost on the Sia network. Our algorithms have improved significantly since the last release, file will be even more secure on v0.5.0.


Questions that arise (and are unanswered at first glance):
1. If it is distributed then how can my data be considered safe? Is SIA's approach Zero-Knowledge?
2. Can malicious users try to extort my data? (By going offline?)
3. How can I make multiple backups in physically independant locations and be assured that I can ALWAYS get my files back?
4. What are the exact costs? It has to be somewhat predictable over time, otherwise we don't want to use the service. Will 50$/month turn into 1000$/month?

https://sia.tech/faq

Questions that arise when they have finally started using SIA:
1. Why is there no "dropping" folder? Other services always offer this.
2. How about file versioning. Is every file always backed up?
3. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH! WHY IS MY SIA NOT APPEARING? DID I JUST GET SCAMMED? (30 min block time)
4. Can I automatically top-up my account with new SIA every month?

Those are just a small slew of concerns, which aren't sufficiently answered on the SIA site in an easy-to-find manner.

That's more easily answered, Sia is still in beta. We don't have all those features people have come to expect because.... it takes time to implement them. Development doesn't happen overnight.

The siacoins should appear in the 'pending' box immediately. It's not a 30 minute block time, it's a 10 minute block time. Where did you find this information?

I think the FAQ answers a lot of your questions already, you should look over it again and tell us what you think needs to be changed.
sr. member
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Me, Myself & I
December 19, 2015, 04:10:47 AM

I think you are mistaken. IF there is money to be made, hosts will figure out how to make it. Sia's big problem right now is NOT that it does not have enough hosts. Sia's big problem is that it does not have enough people uploading files. You don't need to do any port forwarding at all to be an uploader on the Sia network. Don't need a static IP, don't need any fancy configurations.


Chicken and egg problem.
Personally, I would never save on SIA network nothing more than a THIRD copy of my files until I see thousands of hosts running. There is huge pool of empty HDD space existing at average Joe's computers. But average Joe doesn't want to bother with fixed IP or dynamic dns services by himself. He will be very much interested in clicking one button that will make his empty HDD space available to the SIA network and makes (SIA) credit for his next HDD purchase. External HDDs could be packed with SIA installation wallet for hosting, installed upon connecting the drive. Perfect if it could be bought or discounted with SIA. It could be arranged with worldwide supplier that is crypto visionary (Overstock.com) or with HDD manufacturing companies.
Only my two cents in order of making SIA start.
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1000
December 19, 2015, 01:35:46 AM
Id say most of those concerns are to be wondered about at first glance with Sia. Most of your line of questions seem to be as if a first glance? Which is fine, but again its being compared to everyday cloud storage norms. Many of what you list are good to have specifically answered but are addressed throughout the Sia postings here and there  Grin most of which are addressed, and many concerns are alleviated.

In the meantime, Sia is a Nebulous Labs" project, a very successful company in its own right.

Taxes? lol like any other crypto... at the point and time in which you convert to BTC and sell for cash... you record it as income minus expenses, assuming you actually mined and earned any Sia, or bought and sold with a net gain. Just like bitcoin that way  Smiley

Ok, I feel relatively safe even in beta. Now no one recommends using Sia as your soul data storage by no means! But please do use it and get familiar and you will gain confidence and see it more for what it is than at a first glance.

The devs are working on a more comprehensive tutorial and so on. Its still early in the game and has not been pushed to market yet. Gonna be a while, but soon.



legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1000
December 18, 2015, 10:49:36 PM
Yes Sia is different now when compared to Dropbox etc. Yes we do have to manually upload each file or folder separately. So is a little more labor intensive as such. Perhaps a virtual folder of sorts would be a nice enhancement, but not sure Sia was conceived to be used that way.

But on the other hand, aside form being anonymous and data files split and spread across host computers, (which gives great security there, and no one can piece that file together except for the uploader) AND it is also portable. Which in many ways is a huge plus for the concept. No web based account to log into or account registration set up etc., no credit cards involved to use Sia, all of which present a potential for security issues in itself.

So it is different and offers a very different way to store files safely and securely. Use file sharing for collaboration, or just for general public downloading is available (sunfish server) for anyone who has a Sia wallet and can gather those pieces of data that makes the file readable. Almost impossible to be hacked.

Just giving some credit where due, in this concept.  Smiley



legendary
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Black Belt Developer
December 18, 2015, 12:12:24 PM
Then the user experience of the "customers" should be top priority: make a Sia "virtual folder", like dropbox, and you'll have a lot more uploaders ;-)
And/or, integrate sia apis into common apps for smartphones, like the various android file explorers for example.
They may even do it for free if you ask them, and it's free advertising for Sia.

EDIT: another idea is creating packages for common NASes like Qnap and Synology so they can backup on the Sia network. I'd personally use the service if the price is right, and it'd be a lot of data.
hero member
Activity: 543
Merit: 501
December 18, 2015, 12:07:23 PM
Thx for the clarification, but I doubt in expansion of SIA hosts with the fixed IP or dynamic DNS requirement...

I think you are mistaken. IF there is money to be made, hosts will figure out how to make it. Sia's big problem right now is NOT that it does not have enough hosts. Sia's big problem is that it does not have enough people uploading files. You don't need to do any port forwarding at all to be an uploader on the Sia network. Don't need a static IP, don't need any fancy configurations.

I hope that makes sense. Storage is basically free on our network. We don't have a supply problem. And because we don't have a supply problem, as the developers we are focusing all of our energy on the bottleneck: demand.

That doesn't mean that we aren't working on the host experience. The hosts are going to get some upgrades in the 050 release, especially in the form of more information about how much money you are making, how long it's going to take, and in the form of improved protocols for talking to the renter.

The hosts on the Sia network are very important, but without people uploading data to the network they are completely meaningless. It doesn't matter how easy it is or how much storage is available if nobody ever uses it. That's why we are choosing to focus all of our energy on the uploaders right now. Because Sia absolutely needs more uploaders, much more than it needs anything else.
legendary
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Black Belt Developer
December 18, 2015, 09:40:11 AM
It was called x86_64 and was made by amd.
When AMD understood intel (cause of the itanium failure) would use the same extension, instead of making their own as they was used to do, AMD renamed it to amd64.
sr. member
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December 18, 2015, 09:26:20 AM
Apologies for what must be a basic question - what's the difference between Sia-v0.4.4-beta-windows-386.zip and Sia-v0.4.4-beta-windows-amd64.zip ? https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia/releases/tag/v0.4.4-beta

My OS is Windows 7 64bit, so I assume the amd64 version is the one I should d/load. Is that correct?

Thanks  Smiley
Yes! the amd suffix is somewhat misleading since intel use the same x64 extensions (but amd was first, hence the usual amd64 suffix).
(but the 386 version would work too).
The 64 bits binaries take advantage of your processor / OS 64 bit abilities (maybe faster for scanning blockchain : for others coins like monero with a big blockchain, x64 is mandatory due to memory requirement over 4G, this is not the case for siacoin)
hero member
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December 18, 2015, 06:17:31 AM
Apologies for what must be a basic question - what's the difference between Sia-v0.4.4-beta-windows-386.zip and Sia-v0.4.4-beta-windows-amd64.zip ? https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia/releases/tag/v0.4.4-beta

My OS is Windows 7 64bit, so I assume the amd64 version is the one I should d/load. Is that correct?

Thanks  Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 247
Merit: 250
December 17, 2015, 11:14:16 AM
Wanted to dedicate some terabyte for hosting, but can't:
Ports 9982 and 9981 already forwarded manually, so something wrong with wallet. Workaround for manual announcement is unusable, my IP is changing every day. Undecided
Don't host if your IP is changing daily; clients that upload to your host cannot retrieve files if your IP changes and then you will not be paid. Set up dynamic DNS, or get a fixed IP.

Thx for the clarification, but I doubt in expansion of SIA hosts with the fixed IP or dynamic DNS requirement...

Agreed. The developers have recently stated they may introduce a public key of sorts to identify hosts on the network, instead of using IP addresses or hostnames. Sooner the better.

sr. member
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Me, Myself & I
December 17, 2015, 04:33:04 AM
Wanted to dedicate some terabyte for hosting, but can't:
Ports 9982 and 9981 already forwarded manually, so something wrong with wallet. Workaround for manual announcement is unusable, my IP is changing every day. Undecided

Don't host if your IP is changing daily; clients that upload to your host cannot retrieve files if your IP changes and then you will not be paid. Set up dynamic DNS, or get a fixed IP.

You could try announcing from the command line:

Code:
siac host announce [hostname]:[port]

where [hostname] is your IP or hostname and [port] is the port Sia should listen on (this port may have to be forwarded to your PC).
 


Thx for the clarification, but I doubt in expansion of SIA hosts with the fixed IP or dynamic DNS requirement...
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1000
December 16, 2015, 09:25:27 PM
To be fair, we should say that sia is in beta as well.
*Alpha*

Officially, beta.

Maybe someone has been calling it a beta for the last six months or so, but it's been functioning like an alpha..

besides -

Q:"When will this project comes out of it's early Alpha state ?"
A:"It's hard to say for certain, but we've been making terrific progress and plan to expand our operations greatly in 2016. That means hiring employees, forging deals with companies, and of course continuing to improve Sia's core algorithms and user experience."

https://www.zapchain.com/a/l/we-are-the-founders-of-sia-a-decentralized-token-based-storage-system-participate-as-a-user-host/Ql91m5Ikwd
lol, but 2016 is right around the corner now  Grin looking forward to a Happy Sia New Year! 2016

You probably were not corrected when you ask your question referring to it as Alpha for the sake of argument Wink
sr. member
Activity: 247
Merit: 250
December 16, 2015, 07:01:21 PM
Wanted to dedicate some terabyte for hosting, but can't:
Ports 9982 and 9981 already forwarded manually, so something wrong with wallet. Workaround for manual announcement is unusable, my IP is changing every day. Undecided

Don't host if your IP is changing daily; clients that upload to your host cannot retrieve files if your IP changes and then you will not be paid. Set up dynamic DNS, or get a fixed IP.

You could try announcing from the command line:

Code:
siac host announce [hostname]:[port]

where [hostname] is your IP or hostname and [port] is the port Sia should listen on (this port may have to be forwarded to your PC).
 
sr. member
Activity: 736
Merit: 262
Me, Myself & I
December 16, 2015, 06:13:49 PM
Wanted to dedicate some terabyte for hosting, but can't:



Ports 9982 and 9981 already forwarded manually, so something wrong with wallet. Workaround for manual announcement is unusable, my IP is changing every day. Undecided

EDIT: forgot to mention, win firewall directed to pass siad and siac applications...
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1017
December 16, 2015, 02:11:44 PM
To be fair, we should say that sia is in beta as well.
*Alpha*

Officially, beta.

Maybe someone has been calling it a beta for the last six months or so, but it's been functioning like an alpha..

besides -

Q:"When will this project comes out of it's early Alpha state ?"
A:"It's hard to say for certain, but we've been making terrific progress and plan to expand our operations greatly in 2016. That means hiring employees, forging deals with companies, and of course continuing to improve Sia's core algorithms and user experience."

https://www.zapchain.com/a/l/we-are-the-founders-of-sia-a-decentralized-token-based-storage-system-participate-as-a-user-host/Ql91m5Ikwd
hero member
Activity: 543
Merit: 501
December 16, 2015, 05:28:17 AM
Am curious why after a day of mining with 2 r9 290 i have mined 1 block however the wallet shows 0 balance.

http://sia.tech/faq

I've just added the answer to this question to our FAQ. If you have more questions that are not on the FAQ, let me know and I'll add them as well.
sr. member
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Crypto enthusiast
December 16, 2015, 03:52:00 AM
Am curious why after a day of mining with 2 r9 290 i have mined 1 block however the wallet shows 0 balance.

there's a confirmation period you have to wait before the coins are spendable and show up in your balance. i can't recall the exact figure, may be a 1 day, but can be longer depending on how slow the network is.
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