Topic: [ANN] SpreadCoin | Decentralize Everything (decentralized blockexplorer coming) - page 240. (Read 790391 times)

these are some of the background issues that needs to be done ...

what direction? ... well - who knows ...

those that are actually doing something about it are the ones that are pulling the strings at the moment ...

you too seem like someone that knows quite a fair bit about crypto - but ALSO ( like bensam ) assume and criticize on your loosley based assumptions ...

admittedly - there are points that have been made that you have every right to - like the length of time and the lack of moving forward in a timely fashion ... but that is not what the takeover was about ...

it was to try and make something of the remnants of a deserted coin ... the guys ( and girls ) who have produced so far - are doign what they promised so far ... just slow ...

a change of direction? ... thats where you and i agree ... but what has all the talk and planning been about? ... a direction change possibly? ... yup - you bet ...

so slowly - there will be a way for spr to gather its pieces and grow again ... its just all got to come together in its own time - and the time of those pulling those said strings ...

bensam and i have a small history of butting heads ... thats a common occurrence when one assumes and tries to debase others due to his apparent lack of growth ... its life ...

but to assume you KNOW what is happening with others and with crypto and with development and in the minds and backyards of those involved? ... then you will place yourself in the same pitiful league as bensam and the others that have bagged and slagged devs for doing what they do ... and try to make a living from it also ...

constructive criticism is one thing - slagging others is a completely different scenario altogther ...

just because im not always vocal about any of this - doesnt meanim not here watching and learning and building and growing ... unlike a great many others that complain consistently like a bleating goat and wallow in their own stagnant cesspool of illwill and crap ... with no 'real' growth and no 'real' acension to ne heights ...

criticize - yes ... but constructively ...

im back to work ...

on thefarm and thesite and all the things that i ACTUALLY build an devise and use the 'smarts' that God gave me ...

dev team - keep up the good work - even if i dont agree on some of it ... its work nonetheless and its progress ...

this community is good one ...

#crysx

here we go with the accusations AGAIN bensam ...

how on earth do you KNOW what the hell im doing? ... or what others are doing? ...

assume and accuse - but NEVER in the knowledge ...

i have been mining this coins from almost the beginning - and still do to this day ... albeit not as heavily as before as there are other interests in what im doing with thefarm ..

i mentioned the pool a while back - and did not mention much else about it - due to the adamant nature of people that were CONVINCED that there were 'no pools' at the time ...

even NONCE himself came out and said he had a pool running and that it was private - but a pool nonetheless ... did anyone listen? ... nup ...

get your facts straight bensam ...

im NOT the one that needs to 'look' like im a nice guy ...

ive supported ( and continue to support ) spr - by mining and watching and giving input where i can ... even to the extent of saying that a change of algo would surely bring a great many miners back ( NOT about the 'price' of the coin bringing the dumpers back ) ...

your low level assumptions are tiresome to say the least ...

BUT - leopards never change spots - and attitudes always accompany those that grow them like cancers ...

next tell me what my next move is today - or tomorrow - or the next? ... tell me how im doing one thing or another - all for the sake of 'looking' like a nice guy ...

amazing watch you blunder through cryptio - let alone through life - while i 'look' like im growing thefarm and supporting the industry and giving my input and succeeding in almost ALL that ( as there are a few projects i have yet to succeed in ) ...  and yet - i 'want' and 'need' too 'look' like im a nice guy ... hehehe ...

you are intelligent bensam - no doubt .. but where i come from - that is not enough ... smarts - especially street smarts - is what separates the men from the boys ...

grow up bensam ...

#crysx

Update?

What was the feedback from the BIP?

I'm going away for a month, I'll be back on the 10th of October.

Just letting you guys know. 

Hi MrSpace.  Nice to see you. I hope you're enjoying the sunny weather you're having today.

Told you guys that M̶a̶s̶t̶e̶r̶N̶o̶d̶e̶s̶  SpreadNodes were never going to happen, even the guy asking questions before can see that it's just a gimick.

All the stuff mentioned by chrysophylax, all the dramas involved with SPR, it is simply not worth it now, what are you guys going to do about it now ?

Keep the same model kind of but rebrand, do a swap, lower the supply and something different with a new wallet ?

Release optimized miners for AMD/GPU to make it fair to every individual right from the start without doing hardforks, etc.

OR

You can simply rebrand, swap, lower supply, add PoS & many more "Newer" features besides MasterNodes.

Quit saying "it's coming" but it never comes please.

You use the difficulty/blocktime/reward/hashrate to calculate profits.


And you're looking to bridge burn. If you wanted to support this coin, you would've mentioned the private miner back during the 'hooha' time period which you bragged about. Don't give me your moral crap when you're playing a hypocrite. You're only looking for profits just like everyone else.

Only reason you're mentioning it now is because you're 'done' with this coin and you no longer wish to mine it so you're trying to look like a good guy. Although at this point all you're doing is wrecking profits for anyone with the private miner and making people that currently mine with the open miner have to purchase the private miner due to a increase in network difficulty...

But as I mentioned, even with the private miner it's not worth mining and you can use free miners on Quark or Lyra to make more.

waiting to be pumped.

bensam ...

worth is not about how much 'btc' you can get to exchange it to - or 'profiteering' from the coin ...

people in this thread actually 'like' to mine this coin ... regardless of 'profit' and whether its 'worth' it some peoples eyes ...

support is just that - support ...

if you see things this way - then great ... while others see mining spr as a good thing - others dont ...

to each their own ...

i look at 'profit' VERY differently to most others ...

but again - each to their own ...

#crysx

Curious - how do you come to the calculation that SPR isn't worth mining? 

Just to make it clear, the coin isn't worth mining currently even with the private miner. You can earn more mining Vertcoin or Quark. You can find numbers for the private miners in the CCminer thread.

Oooh, nice catch. I checked #34 (finding out what he meant by “home-baked versions”) but I didn’t actually scroll down to #44, assuming it was a more recently-launched coin (I did say I ripped through it), so I totally missed the explicit reference to the Spreadcoin white paper.

Thanks.

Cheers

Graham

Not trying to nit pick but I just wanted to point out it's actually #44.  Interesting find.

sp has made a private spreadx11 miner available ... its the same spreadminer that tsiv came out with - but with optimizations ...

it was that very same one i was using to mine spreadcoin when all that 'hooha' was going on about pools and such - while i was mining on nonce-pool ...

i just kept mining - even though some people refused to listen that i was doing so - with a few others here that were mining at the same private pool ... made a heap of spr at the time ...

anyway - if you have nvidia cards - 0.1btc ( i think - could be 0.2btc ) will get you sp's private miner and source ...

as for amd - i have no idea who does a good one - as i could NEVER compile the miner for amd cards ... that was the main thing that got under my skin ... apart from the algo itself ...

wolf could do the optimizations - it would probably be a new miner that he will have to rewrite - not just an algo - but he could do it ... who has 3btc ( or more ) that is willing to pay him for it? ...

#crysx

The thing that bothers me most is how inefficient the SprX11 bins are.  I did have a chat with wolf0 but we both let it slide due to general busyness.

Genius. 

Its basically all around encryption.

With the original implementation you'd really have to expose the private_key to the client/miner and also transmit it publicly over the (inter-)net - which is a major security issue.

What I did is I simply added (salted) https encryption to the whole datastream between pool and miner which makes it impossible to intercept.

And I added some special tweaks to catch someone if he tries to get hold of the key - I'd be able to identify the "hacker" and ban him from the pool etc..

As a last resort I can even "hold" the first block the miner mined for safety and if the miner ever "captures" a block - I'd simply ban him and take the first block which I still have "on hold" for the one he captured...

Wherever there is need.. There is a way.. Look at ETH - The folks created the DAG file (and some other things) to keep pools etc away - Suprnova has a pool

If it did, anybody could steal the pools coins. I think OCminer has found a clever workaround though although I haven't seen the source code yet. There are a few ways to beat SpreadX11 as far as I know but none are widely used yet.

Thankfully ocminer still supports altcoins

Yeah, I'm still trying to get my head around how the pool actually operates in this instance. For instance, does this pool operate using the same mechanisms detailed in the whitepaper?