This sort of debate reminds me of what happened to e-Gold.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-gold#Criminal_prosecution
Topic: [ANN] SpreadCoin | Decentralize Everything (decentralized blockexplorer coming) - page 307. (Read 790393 times)
May 14, 2015, 05:59:00 AM
May 14, 2015, 05:54:18 AM
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my sentiments exactly ...
one cannot - and i mean that as an impossibility - to stop thievery or malice or illegal activity in such cases ... impossible ...
there will always be those that use these systems for the bad rather than good ...
why on earth do you think the US always has a 'war' on everything that they cant control ... drugs - poverty - countries ...
its simply due to people not doing the right thing - and that will ALWAYS happen ...
the situation will be simple - not to STOP it altogether ( the project ) but to minimize the 'bad' factor somehow ...
lets see if the project gets a lift off first - before we even look at what needs to be placed on servicenodes ...
#crysx
one cannot - and i mean that as an impossibility - to stop thievery or malice or illegal activity in such cases ... impossible ...
there will always be those that use these systems for the bad rather than good ...
why on earth do you think the US always has a 'war' on everything that they cant control ... drugs - poverty - countries ...
its simply due to people not doing the right thing - and that will ALWAYS happen ...
the situation will be simple - not to STOP it altogether ( the project ) but to minimize the 'bad' factor somehow ...
lets see if the project gets a lift off first - before we even look at what needs to be placed on servicenodes ...
#crysx
That is true, I was not meaning that I got problems that crypto can be used to buy illegal things, that is unavoidable. But participating in decentralized storage means we could get the same kind of bad rep as TOR gets. If you run a node, it is inevitable that you have participated in spreading kiddie porn by letting it pass your node. Shit like that will weigh heavily for politicians wanting to outlaw crypto and they will through everything they got at that fact. And people like me with moral issues about it would stay away. But yeah I just felt like tossing my opinion in your faces
It is as you say, unavoidable. May 14, 2015, 05:43:02 AM
+1 georgem has enough on his plate just to get us up to speed at the moment, let alone the core work. Once we get there...then we can start building the launchpad 
It doesn't mean that there isn't a lot of planning going on in the background though. Its just that it is speculative planning at the moment.
It doesn't mean that there isn't a lot of planning going on in the background though. Its just that it is speculative planning at the moment.
May 14, 2015, 05:00:49 AM
Well well well, looks what we have here...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sia-decentralized-storage-1060294
Is it possible to merge this amazingly awesome feature into spreadcoin's servicenodes?
I hope it is, because that'll be AWESOME.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sia-decentralized-storage-1060294
Is it possible to merge this amazingly awesome feature into spreadcoin's servicenodes?
I hope it is, because that'll be AWESOME.
That is awesome!here is the official thread guys ...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sia-siafund-redemption-deadline-june-1st-2015-591283 ...
#crysx
Interesting, but also frightening feature because it is pretty inevitable that it will be used to spread illegal content. Do we want spreadcoin to take that direction?
Spreadcoin is a currency, it could be used to buy illegal things. Should we not go in the direction of currency?
my sentiments exactly ...
one cannot - and i mean that as an impossibility - to stop thievery or malice or illegal activity in such cases ... impossible ...
there will always be those that use these systems for the bad rather than good ...
why on earth do you think the US always has a 'war' on everything that they cant control ... drugs - poverty - countries ...
its simply due to people not doing the right thing - and that will ALWAYS happen ...
the situation will be simple - not to STOP it altogether ( the project ) but to minimize the 'bad' factor somehow ...
lets see if the project gets a lift off first - before we even look at what needs to be placed on servicenodes ...
#crysx
May 14, 2015, 04:51:18 AM
Well well well, looks what we have here...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sia-decentralized-storage-1060294
Is it possible to merge this amazingly awesome feature into spreadcoin's servicenodes?
I hope it is, because that'll be AWESOME.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sia-decentralized-storage-1060294
Is it possible to merge this amazingly awesome feature into spreadcoin's servicenodes?
I hope it is, because that'll be AWESOME.
That is awesome!here is the official thread guys ...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sia-siafund-redemption-deadline-june-1st-2015-591283 ...
#crysx
Interesting, but also frightening feature because it is pretty inevitable that it will be used to spread illegal content. Do we want spreadcoin to take that direction?
Spreadcoin is a currency, it could be used to buy illegal things. Should we not go in the direction of currency?
May 14, 2015, 04:40:31 AM
Well well well, looks what we have here...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sia-decentralized-storage-1060294
Is it possible to merge this amazingly awesome feature into spreadcoin's servicenodes?
I hope it is, because that'll be AWESOME.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sia-decentralized-storage-1060294
Is it possible to merge this amazingly awesome feature into spreadcoin's servicenodes?
I hope it is, because that'll be AWESOME.
That is awesome!here is the official thread guys ...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sia-siafund-redemption-deadline-june-1st-2015-591283 ...
#crysx
Interesting, but also frightening feature because it is pretty inevitable that it will be used to spread illegal content. Do we want spreadcoin to take that direction?
May 14, 2015, 04:11:07 AM
Well well well, looks what we have here...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sia-decentralized-storage-1060294
Is it possible to merge this amazingly awesome feature into spreadcoin's servicenodes?
I hope it is, because that'll be AWESOME.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sia-decentralized-storage-1060294
Is it possible to merge this amazingly awesome feature into spreadcoin's servicenodes?
I hope it is, because that'll be AWESOME.
That is awesome!here is the official thread guys ...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sia-siafund-redemption-deadline-june-1st-2015-591283 ...
#crysx
May 14, 2015, 04:03:00 AM
Well well well, looks what we have here...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sia-decentralized-storage-1060294
Is it possible to merge this amazingly awesome feature into spreadcoin's servicenodes?
I hope it is, because that'll be AWESOME.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sia-decentralized-storage-1060294
Is it possible to merge this amazingly awesome feature into spreadcoin's servicenodes?
I hope it is, because that'll be AWESOME.
That is awesome!
May 14, 2015, 03:50:12 AM
Well well well, looks what we have here...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sia-decentralized-storage-1060294
Is it possible to merge this amazingly awesome feature into spreadcoin's servicenodes?
I hope it is, because that'll be AWESOME.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sia-decentralized-storage-1060294
Is it possible to merge this amazingly awesome feature into spreadcoin's servicenodes?
I hope it is, because that'll be AWESOME.
May 14, 2015, 02:20:53 AM
Bittylicious might consider adding us when he have a bit more volume.
Just another exciting day in Spreadland
Just another exciting day in Spreadland
May 13, 2015, 05:19:49 PM
Anyone used this service before?
I'd be up for asking them to add SPR
appearently a wallet and trading platform for virtual currencies
https://usecryptos.com/
i vagueally remember this came also up a few pages ago ? people asking if people knew it..
Its a bit weird to see our largest Dash volume 24h there (44%).
Cryptsy has 25.6% of Dash volume 24h currently.
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/dash/#markets
This has happened occassionally in the past, I think is because they support SEPA so if someone from Europe wants to buy Dash that is an easy way to do it directly with cash, normally when the buyers are done their volume goes down. It would be cool to see their volume stay because it means more direct FIAT/DASH trading.
edit
He's here, lol
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/official-usecryptos-virtual-currency-exchange-487854
I'd be up for asking them to add SPR
I've been in hibernation for a few years.
Who the f*** are usecryptos?
Who the f*** are usecryptos?
appearently a wallet and trading platform for virtual currencies
https://usecryptos.com/
i vagueally remember this came also up a few pages ago ? people asking if people knew it..
Its a bit weird to see our largest Dash volume 24h there (44%).
Cryptsy has 25.6% of Dash volume 24h currently.
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/dash/#markets
This has happened occassionally in the past, I think is because they support SEPA so if someone from Europe wants to buy Dash that is an easy way to do it directly with cash, normally when the buyers are done their volume goes down. It would be cool to see their volume stay because it means more direct FIAT/DASH trading.
edit
He's here, lol
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/official-usecryptos-virtual-currency-exchange-487854
May 13, 2015, 04:48:52 PM
Awesome, I picked up some 2 weeks ago, so happy 
May 13, 2015, 04:20:51 PM
Spreadcoin Project Update #1
Given that it has been several weeks since the new ANN thread I thought I would summarise the current position of the project for the benefit of those who don't fancy reading 25 pages of discussion!
As many of you know, Spreadcoin was originally launched as a Darkcoin fork (with a lot of code modification, particularly around how masternodes work) by another Lead Dev called Mr Spread. Mr Spread went AWOL at the beginning of the year and appears to have sold some if not all of his coins and is no longer in contact with anybody that we are aware of.
Georgem has since taken over as lead developer on the project (with an honorary vacant position in recognition of Mr Spread's work). The Spreadcoin project has now taken a different form with a view to using service nodes to provide completely decentralised applications and services. The use cases for this model are numerous, with some being simple and some being complex.
With the above preamble in mind, here are some bullet points for easy consumption
In the meantime, while Georgem and Chaositec push on with their sizeable challenges and the other core team members work on their service model proposals, I hope to post fairly regular updates to this thread even if only to prove that I can type for a very long time about not very much
- Dan / Stonehedge
Given that it has been several weeks since the new ANN thread I thought I would summarise the current position of the project for the benefit of those who don't fancy reading 25 pages of discussion!
As many of you know, Spreadcoin was originally launched as a Darkcoin fork (with a lot of code modification, particularly around how masternodes work) by another Lead Dev called Mr Spread. Mr Spread went AWOL at the beginning of the year and appears to have sold some if not all of his coins and is no longer in contact with anybody that we are aware of.
Georgem has since taken over as lead developer on the project (with an honorary vacant position in recognition of Mr Spread's work). The Spreadcoin project has now taken a different form with a view to using service nodes to provide completely decentralised applications and services. The use cases for this model are numerous, with some being simple and some being complex.
With the above preamble in mind, here are some bullet points for easy consumption
- Georgem is currently working around the clock to scrutinise the original code as left by Mr Spread and to complete preparations for testnet testing of service nodes. There is a lot of work to be done and it takes time to interprete another developer's code. Georgem is working full time on this.
- Chaositec is leading efforts towards the significant amount of work required to update Spreadcoin to use the lastest Bitcoin Core code. The benefits to this are numerous and best described by a developer rather than a Communications minion like myself
- Community members have begun research into possible services and applications that could be provided by the service nodes. Some of these concepts are extremely exciting and several have never been seen in the Crypto scene before. As the possible ideas are separated from the impossible ones, they will be thrown open to the SPR community for discussion.
One of the most discussed concepts at the moment is using the service node network to incentivise people to run full Bitcoin Nodes in the form of a symbiotic relationship. We hope to be introducing some very exciting concepts to the SPR community very soon. - Finally, I am just about to start a piece of work defining how best to ensure that the SPR community are kept up to date with progress, problems, successes, delays and plans etc. As a community, we all have different skills and experiences and to succeed we will need to draw upon those and communicate efficiently. We also have numerous tools at our disposal and must choose which ones we use wisely. Please watch this space.
In the meantime, while Georgem and Chaositec push on with their sizeable challenges and the other core team members work on their service model proposals, I hope to post fairly regular updates to this thread even if only to prove that I can type for a very long time about not very much
- Dan / Stonehedge
Great stuff guys, keep up excellent work!
May 13, 2015, 02:53:39 PM
Spreadcoin Project Update #1
Given that it has been several weeks since the new ANN thread I thought I would summarise the current position of the project for the benefit of those who don't fancy reading 25 pages of discussion!
As many of you know, Spreadcoin was originally launched as a Darkcoin fork (with a lot of code modification, particularly around how masternodes work) by another Lead Dev called Mr Spread. Mr Spread went AWOL at the beginning of the year and appears to have sold some if not all of his coins and is no longer in contact with anybody that we are aware of.
Georgem has since taken over as lead developer on the project (with an honorary vacant position in recognition of Mr Spread's work). The Spreadcoin project has now taken a different form with a view to using service nodes to provide completely decentralised applications and services. The use cases for this model are numerous, with some being simple and some being complex.
With the above preamble in mind, here are some bullet points for easy consumption
In the meantime, while Georgem and Chaositec push on with their sizeable challenges and the other core team members work on their service model proposals, I hope to post fairly regular updates to this thread even if only to prove that I can type for a very long time about not very much
- Dan / Stonehedge
Given that it has been several weeks since the new ANN thread I thought I would summarise the current position of the project for the benefit of those who don't fancy reading 25 pages of discussion!
As many of you know, Spreadcoin was originally launched as a Darkcoin fork (with a lot of code modification, particularly around how masternodes work) by another Lead Dev called Mr Spread. Mr Spread went AWOL at the beginning of the year and appears to have sold some if not all of his coins and is no longer in contact with anybody that we are aware of.
Georgem has since taken over as lead developer on the project (with an honorary vacant position in recognition of Mr Spread's work). The Spreadcoin project has now taken a different form with a view to using service nodes to provide completely decentralised applications and services. The use cases for this model are numerous, with some being simple and some being complex.
With the above preamble in mind, here are some bullet points for easy consumption
- Georgem is currently working around the clock to scrutinise the original code as left by Mr Spread and to complete preparations for testnet testing of service nodes. There is a lot of work to be done and it takes time to interprete another developer's code. Georgem is working full time on this.
- Chaositec is leading efforts towards the significant amount of work required to update Spreadcoin to use the lastest Bitcoin Core code. The benefits to this are numerous and best described by a developer rather than a Communications minion like myself
- Community members have begun research into possible services and applications that could be provided by the service nodes. Some of these concepts are extremely exciting and several have never been seen in the Crypto scene before. As the possible ideas are separated from the impossible ones, they will be thrown open to the SPR community for discussion.
One of the most discussed concepts at the moment is using the service node network to incentivise people to run full Bitcoin Nodes in the form of a symbiotic relationship. We hope to be introducing some very exciting concepts to the SPR community very soon. - Finally, I am just about to start a piece of work defining how best to ensure that the SPR community are kept up to date with progress, problems, successes, delays and plans etc. As a community, we all have different skills and experiences and to succeed we will need to draw upon those and communicate efficiently. We also have numerous tools at our disposal and must choose which ones we use wisely. Please watch this space.
In the meantime, while Georgem and Chaositec push on with their sizeable challenges and the other core team members work on their service model proposals, I hope to post fairly regular updates to this thread even if only to prove that I can type for a very long time about not very much
- Dan / Stonehedge
Thanks for an
Very well articulated.
May 13, 2015, 12:07:49 PM
Spreadcoin Project Update #1
Given that it has been several weeks since the new ANN thread I thought I would summarise the current position of the project for the benefit of those who don't fancy reading 25 pages of discussion!
As many of you know, Spreadcoin was originally launched as a Darkcoin fork (with a lot of code modification, particularly around how masternodes work) by another Lead Dev called Mr Spread. Mr Spread went AWOL at the beginning of the year and appears to have sold some if not all of his coins and is no longer in contact with anybody that we are aware of.
Georgem has since taken over as lead developer on the project (with an honorary vacant position in recognition of Mr Spread's work). The Spreadcoin project has now taken a different form with a view to using service nodes to provide completely decentralised applications and services. The use cases for this model are numerous, with some being simple and some being complex.
With the above preamble in mind, here are some bullet points for easy consumption
In the meantime, while Georgem and Chaositec push on with their sizeable challenges and the other core team members work on their service model proposals, I hope to post fairly regular updates to this thread even if only to prove that I can type for a very long time about not very much
- Dan / Stonehedge
Given that it has been several weeks since the new ANN thread I thought I would summarise the current position of the project for the benefit of those who don't fancy reading 25 pages of discussion!
As many of you know, Spreadcoin was originally launched as a Darkcoin fork (with a lot of code modification, particularly around how masternodes work) by another Lead Dev called Mr Spread. Mr Spread went AWOL at the beginning of the year and appears to have sold some if not all of his coins and is no longer in contact with anybody that we are aware of.
Georgem has since taken over as lead developer on the project (with an honorary vacant position in recognition of Mr Spread's work). The Spreadcoin project has now taken a different form with a view to using service nodes to provide completely decentralised applications and services. The use cases for this model are numerous, with some being simple and some being complex.
With the above preamble in mind, here are some bullet points for easy consumption
- Georgem is currently working around the clock to scrutinise the original code as left by Mr Spread and to complete preparations for testnet testing of service nodes. There is a lot of work to be done and it takes time to interprete another developer's code. Georgem is working full time on this.
- Chaositec is leading efforts towards the significant amount of work required to update Spreadcoin to use the lastest Bitcoin Core code. The benefits to this are numerous and best described by a developer rather than a Communications minion like myself
- Community members have begun research into possible services and applications that could be provided by the service nodes. Some of these concepts are extremely exciting and several have never been seen in the Crypto scene before. As the possible ideas are separated from the impossible ones, they will be thrown open to the SPR community for discussion.
One of the most discussed concepts at the moment is using the service node network to incentivise people to run full Bitcoin Nodes in the form of a symbiotic relationship. We hope to be introducing some very exciting concepts to the SPR community very soon. - Finally, I am just about to start a piece of work defining how best to ensure that the SPR community are kept up to date with progress, problems, successes, delays and plans etc. As a community, we all have different skills and experiences and to succeed we will need to draw upon those and communicate efficiently. We also have numerous tools at our disposal and must choose which ones we use wisely. Please watch this space.
In the meantime, while Georgem and Chaositec push on with their sizeable challenges and the other core team members work on their service model proposals, I hope to post fairly regular updates to this thread even if only to prove that I can type for a very long time about not very much
- Dan / Stonehedge
Nice words ! You're the bests ! Keep working so goodly
! May 13, 2015, 10:56:58 AM
Spreadcoin Project Update #1
Given that it has been several weeks since the new ANN thread I thought I would summarise the current position of the project for the benefit of those who don't fancy reading 25 pages of discussion!
As many of you know, Spreadcoin was originally launched as a Darkcoin fork (with a lot of code modification, particularly around how masternodes work) by another Lead Dev called Mr Spread. Mr Spread went AWOL at the beginning of the year and appears to have sold some if not all of his coins and is no longer in contact with anybody that we are aware of.
Georgem has since taken over as lead developer on the project (with an honorary vacant position in recognition of Mr Spread's work). The Spreadcoin project has now taken a different form with a view to using service nodes to provide completely decentralised applications and services. The use cases for this model are numerous, with some being simple and some being complex.
With the above preamble in mind, here are some bullet points for easy consumption
In the meantime, while Georgem and Chaositec push on with their sizeable challenges and the other core team members work on their service model proposals, I hope to post fairly regular updates to this thread even if only to prove that I can type for a very long time about not very much
- Dan / Stonehedge
Given that it has been several weeks since the new ANN thread I thought I would summarise the current position of the project for the benefit of those who don't fancy reading 25 pages of discussion!
As many of you know, Spreadcoin was originally launched as a Darkcoin fork (with a lot of code modification, particularly around how masternodes work) by another Lead Dev called Mr Spread. Mr Spread went AWOL at the beginning of the year and appears to have sold some if not all of his coins and is no longer in contact with anybody that we are aware of.
Georgem has since taken over as lead developer on the project (with an honorary vacant position in recognition of Mr Spread's work). The Spreadcoin project has now taken a different form with a view to using service nodes to provide completely decentralised applications and services. The use cases for this model are numerous, with some being simple and some being complex.
With the above preamble in mind, here are some bullet points for easy consumption
- Georgem is currently working around the clock to scrutinise the original code as left by Mr Spread and to complete preparations for testnet testing of service nodes. There is a lot of work to be done and it takes time to interprete another developer's code. Georgem is working full time on this.
- Chaositec is leading efforts towards the significant amount of work required to update Spreadcoin to use the lastest Bitcoin Core code. The benefits to this are numerous and best described by a developer rather than a Communications minion like myself
- Community members have begun research into possible services and applications that could be provided by the service nodes. Some of these concepts are extremely exciting and several have never been seen in the Crypto scene before. As the possible ideas are separated from the impossible ones, they will be thrown open to the SPR community for discussion.
One of the most discussed concepts at the moment is using the service node network to incentivise people to run full Bitcoin Nodes in the form of a symbiotic relationship. We hope to be introducing some very exciting concepts to the SPR community very soon. - Finally, I am just about to start a piece of work defining how best to ensure that the SPR community are kept up to date with progress, problems, successes, delays and plans etc. As a community, we all have different skills and experiences and to succeed we will need to draw upon those and communicate efficiently. We also have numerous tools at our disposal and must choose which ones we use wisely. Please watch this space.
In the meantime, while Georgem and Chaositec push on with their sizeable challenges and the other core team members work on their service model proposals, I hope to post fairly regular updates to this thread even if only to prove that I can type for a very long time about not very much
- Dan / Stonehedge
May 13, 2015, 07:39:03 AM
They still use Bigtable for most of the Google Apps but I assume it has come a long way since 2008.
I read that only 8 people are employed to manage Youtube at an operational level.
I read that only 8 people are employed to manage Youtube at an operational level.
May 13, 2015, 07:25:40 AM
I think Dash predicted/guessed that masternode numbers would stabilise at around the 3,000 mark due to market forces. It turned out to be not a bad guess. I think they're around 2,600 and slowly growing at the moment.
If anybody has half an hour to spare, here's a presentation on how Youtube is provisioned. Google Bigtable is rad.
https://sites.google.com/site/poweredbyyoutube/Home/powered-by-youtube---youtubes-infrastructure
If anybody has half an hour to spare, here's a presentation on how Youtube is provisioned. Google Bigtable is rad.
https://sites.google.com/site/poweredbyyoutube/Home/powered-by-youtube---youtubes-infrastructure
I watched this presentation a little bit, and was impressed, until I realized that it is from 2008.
Which is the scariest thing about this, because today the technological requirements for youtube must be 10 - 100 x bigger.
May 13, 2015, 07:06:48 AM
I think Dash predicted/guessed that masternode numbers would stabilise at around the 3,000 mark due to market forces. It turned out to be not a bad guess. I think they're around 2,600 and slowly growing at the moment.
If anybody has half an hour to spare, here's a presentation on how Youtube is provisioned. Google Bigtable is rad.
https://sites.google.com/site/poweredbyyoutube/Home/powered-by-youtube---youtubes-infrastructure
If anybody has half an hour to spare, here's a presentation on how Youtube is provisioned. Google Bigtable is rad.
https://sites.google.com/site/poweredbyyoutube/Home/powered-by-youtube---youtubes-infrastructure
May 13, 2015, 06:39:42 AM
You clearly have quite an exciting private life George 
A simple question if I may? If SPR will be providing decentralized services using service nodes, wouldn't it be the case that the more nodes that are active and performing well the better? I love the idea of scoring based on QoS but if there is a hard coded limit to the maximum number of service nodes based on coin supply, doesn't that limit the distribution of the service node network?
Wouldn't it be better to have 1,000 good snodes running than 800 good snodes in terms of overall network health?
A simple question if I may? If SPR will be providing decentralized services using service nodes, wouldn't it be the case that the more nodes that are active and performing well the better? I love the idea of scoring based on QoS but if there is a hard coded limit to the maximum number of service nodes based on coin supply, doesn't that limit the distribution of the service node network?
Wouldn't it be better to have 1,000 good snodes running than 800 good snodes in terms of overall network health?
The amount of SNs won't be hardcoded, but it will be limited by the protocol.
It will follow a curve similar to coin supply.
Mr. Spread originally came up with the idea of a limited hardcoded amount of Masternodes, a fix number (1000 or 1440)
because from a decentralization standpoint it makes sense to expose servicenodes
to the same market forces that hashrate and currency value are exposed to too.
My idea goes a little further by allowing this limit to slowly increase over time
(which should lead to about 7000 servicenodes when we reach 100% coinsupply)
So, we will never see something like 10000 servicenodes, but I don't think that Dash will see 10000 Masternodes either, and they don't even have a limit.
(That's just the nature of it: they do have a theoretical limit ofcourse, which is total coinsupply / 1000 ----> it is not possible to have more than 20000 Masternodes in DASH)
So having a few thousand servicenodes seems to be a very reasonable number.
Also, tell me any other service worldwide, google, youtube whatever... and how many servers they need to run a successful service for millions of people?
I doubt that youtube has 7000 servers, but I could be wrong.
Google certainly has that: http://www.google.com/about/datacenters/gallery/#/all/20
lol
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