Edit: Just to get this conversation going: If it is an issue, feel free to explain me why!
Topic: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For Highly-Confidential Transactions 🔏 - page 41. (Read 202439 times)
March 11, 2018, 02:23:43 PM
This is not an issue, don't be fooled ...
Edit: Just to get this conversation going: If it is an issue, feel free to explain me why!
Edit: Just to get this conversation going: If it is an issue, feel free to explain me why!
March 11, 2018, 12:41:18 PM
ASICs for cryptonight were recently announced. How is the Sumo team going to address this issue?
March 11, 2018, 04:05:24 AM
You just wrote that to place your bounty signature, right? 
March 10, 2018, 04:53:32 PM
Simply saying, "we are not much different from Monero but we have plans and features in the pipeline that will definitely make a difference", would probably have helped eliminate the very FUD, folks
are so worried about. And there is ample evidence that many people are worried about the 10% premine.
Transparency helps to convince people. But again... just my 50 cents on the topic.
are so worried about. And there is ample evidence that many people are worried about the 10% premine.
Transparency helps to convince people. But again... just my 50 cents on the topic.
"we are not much different from Monero but we have" this has been done in this very ANN lots of times. Anyway, at least a few xmr fans try to twist facts and spread fud. Especially visdude has his issues, if you read all his replies in this ann you will see
I don't get why people are upset about the premine. Devs handeled it very transparently. The premine is mentioned on the first page and Sumoshi made a blog post about it on our medium blog. If one does not agree with the premine there is a simple solution: to move on. I don't get why this is made an issue again and again.
@GerMining First of all, you are one of the more helpful community members. If I remember correctly you asked me to address my questions in the telegram group. Except for insults from a certain member of Sumokoin, I didn't get any answers.
However, I guess many folks are worried that they mine/buy Sumokoin and devs will dump loads of coins when the time comes or when the price is reasonably high. A simple reassurance that no mass dumping on part of the dev team will occur could help. Information on how and when the premine will be spent will at least be seen as an attempt to reassure people that this crypto currency is founded on solid principles. Almost anybody making money trading crypto will advise you to look at factors like,
1. Who is the team?
2. Does the dev team have any development background (in other words: are they qualified to implement a given roadmap)?
3. What makes this coin so different from others?
As I mentioned in an earlier post, some in-depth information answering these questions will generally be useful for potential investors (and/or miners).
Anonymity and showing potential yet inquisitive people the finger certainly won't help. Even currencies like GRAFT or ETN handle this aspect of PR much better.
I am the one who "insulted" you and unfortunately I am going to say the same things that you find "insulting" again.
1. The team prefers to stay anonymous (besides two of them that do not hide their real names). The team has grown in numbers (they are more than 4 atm and i dont know if the new members will decide to disclose their real names as well in the future)
2. If they are qualified to implement a given roadmap can be easily checked by the current roadmap and if all milestones were delivered on time. Also if you check the two members, that do not hide their name,s you ll see that their background is quite overqualifying to implement any roadmap, compared to the "developers" of ICO's like ETN that you seem to prefer.
3. Sumokoin strives to be among the top anoncoins around and is on its way into accomplishing that, i am sorry if you cannot discern that from its roadmap or its development so far.
Now for the most insulting part, whether you like it or not we dont look for "investors" so you'd better stick with the mentioned ICOs which, like you said, have better PR and tv evangelists (although I ve been accused as being a cheerleader many times, I dont blame the people who accuse me as such cause I indeed sometimes overreact due to my strong belief in the coin).
Thank you investor, go trade an ICO with large github commit frequency
Lol
Now you are getting into kindergarten talk. Not sure why all of that offends you so much. Maybe, there is some truth to it?
Keep in mind that big players in crypto also have folks with a Ph.D. in maths and hardcore developers. And although a Ph.D. is certainly not required
to deliver a project, I question the thoroughness of developers who don't even manage to adjust the copyright headers and - as a result - have their
project taken down (github - very professional!). I have yet to see any feature of sumokoin that is truly unique and impressive. It's all just monero.
Maybe, a "real" answer would be better than - and yes, you are doing it again - showing the finger.
Btw... Sumogr... You are the one to insult folks for simply asking a few questions about the premine.
Very well done...
A few facts about SUMOKOIN and the roadmap:
* Initial Version of Sumokoin based on Monero,
* 10% pre-mine (8.888.888 SUMOs worth a total of 17.824.443 USD - at the time of writing)
The community is what drives SUMO and the miners support it with their hashing power.
So yes, we DO HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW.
Let's look at your "really impressive" roadmap...
Roadmap items
| Item | Comment |
| Sumokoin v0.1.2.0 | difficulty adjustments, etc. (most "new" coins implement that - what's the achievement here?!), |
| GUI Wallet | Well done... but there is a monero wallet that I would guess yours is based on (features are almost identical) |
| EasyMiner | at least something, that is not copyright monero. Written in Python (not C++) |
| Subaddresses | (c) 2014 - 2017 The Monero Project (https://github.com/sumoprojects/sumokoin/blob/be01bb6511efaf1cae21ba5c854031862ba87810/src/wallet/api/subaddress.cpp) |
| Multi-signature + Lite Wallet | not yet delivered (correct me, if I am wrong) - Multi-signature introduced to Monero with Pull Request https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/2134) in Dec 2017 |
| Online wallet + Bulletproof | not yet delivered - but already available in Monero - Bulletproof: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/2883 |
| Mobile wallets (Android, iOS) | not yet delivered |
So as anybody can see...lots of words and not a lot of substance. Not a single feature that wouldn't be available in Monero?!
And please spare me with statements like, "It was so hard to adjust the coin name in cryptonote_config.h" or similar.
Maybe, you do have python scripting/development skills but you do seem to forget that monero - sorry - sumokoin is written in C++.
What is it you have done? Sponsor the infrastructure? Reply to folks on github?? Create the easy miner?
Considering all these achievements, you really should treat potential investors and miners a bit better.
You should also not talk trash about ETN because if I look at their network and yours, they are ten times bigger (SUMO: 34.32 MHs vs. ETN: 348.45 MHs)
and in comparison to you a lot "younger" and a lot more transparent.
Actions do speak louder than words.
I better go and play with real cryptocurrencies with a solid background (e.g. Monero) now
Cheers,
Tom
PS:
If you don't look for investors, maybe you should have your coin delisted on cryptopia, etc. Investors, per definition, are also people buying the coin. Just repeating your words... LOLYou have no idea what you are talking about. I read up to the GUI wallet part where you say its a knock off from Monero's GUI while even the language they are coded with is different (Python vs C++).
Yeah go to a real cryptocurreny like Monero you have a history of calling everything a scam there. I guess you look yourself in the mirror each morning and shout scam to yourself.
Bye investor
You just can't stop showing the finger
Good luck and please don't scam people... most of them do work hard for their money...unlike some people doing a bit of cut and paste andcalling it an anonymous coin. You don't even know what the core of sumokoin is...it's certainly not your hastily put together wallet... That only talks to a monero/sumokoin core component (i.e. wallet rpc,
does that ring a bell?). Do I really have to explain "your code" to you?
Sumogr... You should really not be in this business... seriously not... You are hurting the coin more than helping it...
On your first sentence you are calling the coin a scam and at your last you wish that i wasnt into this business cause i am hurting the coin....
Well enough with this nonsense say what you will
LOL...you don't seize to amaze me. I have had more than enough "entertainment" for today. You beat watching "John Oliver". So much talk so little substance.
I asked you to not scam people and that was not in my first sentence. I didn't say the coin is a scam... Maybe, try some different glasses. Don't twist facts...
Fact is, you had nothing to add...There is no real added value and - yes - it's a bad copy of monero as it's missing the newest features and fixes.
See? That's all I wanted to know and you finally managed to satisfy my curiosity. Thanks...
@GerMining: Thanks for trying to help initially anyway. It's people like you who can make this coin succeed.
LOL
I haven't laughed so hard in a long time. LOL... we will see what happens after block 140000.@GerMining... just facts dude...
Conclusion:
* In essence, sumokoin is a copy of monero, missing some of the newest features and hopefully on a good way to implement new ones.
* SumoGR assures folks that the premine will be spent for new development efforts and infrastructure.
* Monero's Bugfixes and new features are to be integrated into sumokoin.
* Sounds like a much better answer I am getting now then before.
As I already stated, thanks for finally satisfying my curiosity.
* In essence, sumokoin is a copy of monero, missing some of the newest features and hopefully on a good way to implement new ones.
It's already stated many times that Sumokoin is indeed a Monero fork (a copy of Monero or whatever you may want to call it). Indeed it is on its way of implementing new ones (within the next few months and I am not talking about the light wallet or the web wallet) that will hopefully diferentiate the coin more
* SumoGR assures folks that the premine will be spent for new development efforts and infrastructure.
According to the best of my knowledge and to what I have seen. I know for fact that more devs are hired and that there is a sound plan on how the premine will be used for the benefit of the coin.
* Monero's Bugfixes and new features are to be integrated into sumokoin.
Of course, why shouldnt we integrate them?
* Sounds like a much better answer I am getting now then before.
I am happy about that
March 10, 2018, 02:29:24 PM
Simply saying, "we are not much different from Monero but we have plans and features in the pipeline that will definitely make a difference", would probably have helped eliminate the very FUD, folks
are so worried about. And there is ample evidence that many people are worried about the 10% premine.
Transparency helps to convince people. But again... just my 50 cents on the topic.
are so worried about. And there is ample evidence that many people are worried about the 10% premine.
Transparency helps to convince people. But again... just my 50 cents on the topic.
"we are not much different from Monero but we have" this has been done in this very ANN lots of times. Anyway, at least a few xmr fans try to twist facts and spread fud. Especially visdude has his issues, if you read all his replies in this ann you will see
I don't get why people are upset about the premine. Devs handeled it very transparently. The premine is mentioned on the first page and Sumoshi made a blog post about it on our medium blog. If one does not agree with the premine there is a simple solution: to move on. I don't get why this is made an issue again and again.
@GerMining First of all, you are one of the more helpful community members. If I remember correctly you asked me to address my questions in the telegram group. Except for insults from a certain member of Sumokoin, I didn't get any answers.
However, I guess many folks are worried that they mine/buy Sumokoin and devs will dump loads of coins when the time comes or when the price is reasonably high. A simple reassurance that no mass dumping on part of the dev team will occur could help. Information on how and when the premine will be spent will at least be seen as an attempt to reassure people that this crypto currency is founded on solid principles. Almost anybody making money trading crypto will advise you to look at factors like,
1. Who is the team?
2. Does the dev team have any development background (in other words: are they qualified to implement a given roadmap)?
3. What makes this coin so different from others?
As I mentioned in an earlier post, some in-depth information answering these questions will generally be useful for potential investors (and/or miners).
Anonymity and showing potential yet inquisitive people the finger certainly won't help. Even currencies like GRAFT or ETN handle this aspect of PR much better.
I am the one who "insulted" you and unfortunately I am going to say the same things that you find "insulting" again.
1. The team prefers to stay anonymous (besides two of them that do not hide their real names). The team has grown in numbers (they are more than 4 atm and i dont know if the new members will decide to disclose their real names as well in the future)
2. If they are qualified to implement a given roadmap can be easily checked by the current roadmap and if all milestones were delivered on time. Also if you check the two members, that do not hide their name,s you ll see that their background is quite overqualifying to implement any roadmap, compared to the "developers" of ICO's like ETN that you seem to prefer.
3. Sumokoin strives to be among the top anoncoins around and is on its way into accomplishing that, i am sorry if you cannot discern that from its roadmap or its development so far.
Now for the most insulting part, whether you like it or not we dont look for "investors" so you'd better stick with the mentioned ICOs which, like you said, have better PR and tv evangelists (although I ve been accused as being a cheerleader many times, I dont blame the people who accuse me as such cause I indeed sometimes overreact due to my strong belief in the coin).
Thank you investor, go trade an ICO with large github commit frequency
Lol
Now you are getting into kindergarten talk. Not sure why all of that offends you so much. Maybe, there is some truth to it?
Keep in mind that big players in crypto also have folks with a Ph.D. in maths and hardcore developers. And although a Ph.D. is certainly not required
to deliver a project, I question the thoroughness of developers who don't even manage to adjust the copyright headers and - as a result - have their
project taken down (github - very professional!). I have yet to see any feature of sumokoin that is truly unique and impressive. It's all just monero.
Maybe, a "real" answer would be better than - and yes, you are doing it again - showing the finger.
Btw... Sumogr... You are the one to insult folks for simply asking a few questions about the premine.
Very well done...
A few facts about SUMOKOIN and the roadmap:
* Initial Version of Sumokoin based on Monero,
* 10% pre-mine (8.888.888 SUMOs worth a total of 17.824.443 USD - at the time of writing)
The community is what drives SUMO and the miners support it with their hashing power.
So yes, we DO HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW.
Let's look at your "really impressive" roadmap...
Roadmap items
| Item | Comment |
| Sumokoin v0.1.2.0 | difficulty adjustments, etc. (most "new" coins implement that - what's the achievement here?!), |
| GUI Wallet | Well done... but there is a monero wallet that I would guess yours is based on (features are almost identical) |
| EasyMiner | at least something, that is not copyright monero. Written in Python (not C++) |
| Subaddresses | (c) 2014 - 2017 The Monero Project (https://github.com/sumoprojects/sumokoin/blob/be01bb6511efaf1cae21ba5c854031862ba87810/src/wallet/api/subaddress.cpp) |
| Multi-signature + Lite Wallet | not yet delivered (correct me, if I am wrong) - Multi-signature introduced to Monero with Pull Request https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/2134) in Dec 2017 |
| Online wallet + Bulletproof | not yet delivered - but already available in Monero - Bulletproof: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/2883 |
| Mobile wallets (Android, iOS) | not yet delivered |
So as anybody can see...lots of words and not a lot of substance. Not a single feature that wouldn't be available in Monero?!
And please spare me with statements like, "It was so hard to adjust the coin name in cryptonote_config.h" or similar.
Maybe, you do have python scripting/development skills but you do seem to forget that monero - sorry - sumokoin is written in C++.
What is it you have done? Sponsor the infrastructure? Reply to folks on github?? Create the easy miner?
Considering all these achievements, you really should treat potential investors and miners a bit better.
You should also not talk trash about ETN because if I look at their network and yours, they are ten times bigger (SUMO: 34.32 MHs vs. ETN: 348.45 MHs)
and in comparison to you a lot "younger" and a lot more transparent.
Actions do speak louder than words.
I better go and play with real cryptocurrencies with a solid background (e.g. Monero) now
Cheers,
Tom
PS:
If you don't look for investors, maybe you should have your coin delisted on cryptopia, etc. Investors, per definition, are also people buying the coin. Just repeating your words... LOLYou have no idea what you are talking about. I read up to the GUI wallet part where you say its a knock off from Monero's GUI while even the language they are coded with is different (Python vs C++).
Yeah go to a real cryptocurreny like Monero you have a history of calling everything a scam there. I guess you look yourself in the mirror each morning and shout scam to yourself.
Bye investor
You just can't stop showing the finger
Good luck and please don't scam people... most of them do work hard for their money...unlike some people doing a bit of cut and paste andcalling it an anonymous coin. You don't even know what the core of sumokoin is...it's certainly not your hastily put together wallet... That only talks to a monero/sumokoin core component (i.e. wallet rpc,
does that ring a bell?). Do I really have to explain "your code" to you?
Sumogr... You should really not be in this business... seriously not... You are hurting the coin more than helping it...
On your first sentence you are calling the coin a scam and at your last you wish that i wasnt into this business cause i am hurting the coin....
Well enough with this nonsense say what you will
LOL...you don't seize to amaze me. I have had more than enough "entertainment" for today. You beat watching "John Oliver". So much talk so little substance.
I asked you to not scam people and that was not in my first sentence. I didn't say the coin is a scam... Maybe, try some different glasses. Don't twist facts...
Fact is, you had nothing to add...There is no real added value and - yes - it's a bad copy of monero as it's missing the newest features and fixes.
See? That's all I wanted to know and you finally managed to satisfy my curiosity. Thanks...
@GerMining: Thanks for trying to help initially anyway. It's people like you who can make this coin succeed.
LOL
I haven't laughed so hard in a long time. LOL... we will see what happens after block 140000.@GerMining... just facts dude...
Conclusion:
* In essence, sumokoin is a copy of monero, missing some of the newest features and hopefully on a good way to implement new ones.
* SumoGR assures folks that the premine will be spent for new development efforts and infrastructure.
* Monero's Bugfixes and new features are to be integrated into sumokoin.
* Sounds like a much better answer I am getting now then before.
As I already stated, thanks for finally satisfying my curiosity.
March 10, 2018, 04:04:53 AM
I wouldn't worry about it, I've installed other wallets that said were "version Y" but still showed the old "version X" name, sometimes this just slips through the net.
You could put in a bug report in the 'issue' section of the Github, that would be the quickest way to get it fixed, https://github.com/sumoprojects/SumoGUIWallet/issues
Yeah, no need to worry too much about it. Report them to devs and they will fix soon.You could put in a bug report in the 'issue' section of the Github, that would be the quickest way to get it fixed, https://github.com/sumoprojects/SumoGUIWallet/issues
Right on thx for answering x3 lol
yeah i just uninstalled and re-did it twice to make sure haha no worrs
No need to report it, its a known issue
(actually its not an issue but an omission to change the version on the info tab). It is already fixed for the next release coming within this month March 10, 2018, 01:05:01 AM
I wouldn't worry about it, I've installed other wallets that said were "version Y" but still showed the old "version X" name, sometimes this just slips through the net.
You could put in a bug report in the 'issue' section of the Github, that would be the quickest way to get it fixed, https://github.com/sumoprojects/SumoGUIWallet/issues
Yeah, no need to worry too much about it. Report them to devs and they will fix soon.You could put in a bug report in the 'issue' section of the Github, that would be the quickest way to get it fixed, https://github.com/sumoprojects/SumoGUIWallet/issues
Right on thx for answering x3 lol
yeah i just uninstalled and re-did it twice to make sure haha no worrs
March 10, 2018, 12:06:15 AM
Hey guys kool lil koin here, mining with my AMD a few months now
updated to V2 windows wallet **but** settings>help>about still shows V1
is that a mistake?
thx
updated to V2 windows wallet **but** settings>help>about still shows V1
is that a mistake?
thx
yup
March 09, 2018, 10:43:41 PM
I wouldn't worry about it, I've installed other wallets that said were "version Y" but still showed the old "version X" name, sometimes this just slips through the net.
You could put in a bug report in the 'issue' section of the Github, that would be the quickest way to get it fixed, https://github.com/sumoprojects/SumoGUIWallet/issues
Yeah, no need to worry too much about it. Report them to devs and they will fix soon. You could put in a bug report in the 'issue' section of the Github, that would be the quickest way to get it fixed, https://github.com/sumoprojects/SumoGUIWallet/issues
March 09, 2018, 10:33:18 PM
Hey guys kool lil koin here, mining with my AMD a few months now
updated to V2 windows wallet **but** settings>help>about still shows V1
is that a mistake?
thx
updated to V2 windows wallet **but** settings>help>about still shows V1
is that a mistake?
thx
I wouldn't worry about it, I've installed other wallets that said were "version Y" but still showed the old "version X" name, sometimes this just slips through the net.
You could put in a bug report in the 'issue' section of the Github, that would be the quickest way to get it fixed, https://github.com/sumoprojects/SumoGUIWallet/issues
March 09, 2018, 06:04:37 PM
Hey guys kool lil koin here, mining with my AMD a few months now
updated to V2 windows wallet **but** settings>help>about still shows V1
is that a mistake?
thx
updated to V2 windows wallet **but** settings>help>about still shows V1
is that a mistake?
thx
March 09, 2018, 03:22:28 PM
While I like new features, I'd prefer more exchanges (big ones)..
March 09, 2018, 09:21:51 AM
At the now moment blockchain 6.29 GB.
Is it planned to connect to a remote node in the future, an light wallet option?
It would be very necessary and useful.
Is it planned to connect to a remote node in the future, an light wallet option?
It would be very necessary and useful.
From Sumokoin.org roadmap:
First Quarter, 2018
Multi-signature + Lite Wallet
• Multi-signature wallet implementation
• Light-weight GUI wallet
So March is going to be a good month, then in Second Quarter of 2018 bulletproofs(It's going to reduce future blockchain size with 80%) is being implemented, along with a mobile friendly web wallet.
March 09, 2018, 09:10:59 AM
Alright, thank you all @Germining, @cryptoreporting, @butcherano, @oddsig for your replies. I guess I'll try my luck once again.
No worries
March 09, 2018, 09:05:42 AM
Alright, thank you all @Germining, @cryptoreporting, @butcherano, @oddsig for your replies. I guess I'll try my luck once again.
March 09, 2018, 08:15:32 AM
Yes. Just check the roadmap on sumokoin.org
March 09, 2018, 07:42:08 AM
Has anyone been able to successfully withdraw their coins to their own wallet from Craptopia in the past 24-48 hours?
I'm asking because my withdrawal which was stuck for a freaking month didn't go through, but luckily it got cancelled for some reason (no response to my support ticket whatsoever though) and they say I should try again.
I obviously don't trust them at all at this point, and there's no way I'm keeping anything on that shit exchange anymore. Lesson learned.
But since I really don't want to sell my SUMO, did anyone manage to successfuly withdraw their SUMO from Craptopia to their wallets in the past 1-2 days?
Otherwise I'll just have to sell and cash out in BTC or whatever still works on that shit exchange.
I'm asking because my withdrawal which was stuck for a freaking month didn't go through, but luckily it got cancelled for some reason (no response to my support ticket whatsoever though) and they say I should try again.
I obviously don't trust them at all at this point, and there's no way I'm keeping anything on that shit exchange anymore. Lesson learned.
But since I really don't want to sell my SUMO, did anyone manage to successfuly withdraw their SUMO from Craptopia to their wallets in the past 1-2 days?
Otherwise I'll just have to sell and cash out in BTC or whatever still works on that shit exchange.
I bought and transferred Sumo to my wallet yesterday, from Cryptopia. It didn't take long before they appeared in my wallet.
March 09, 2018, 07:19:00 AM
https://tothemoon.live/?IsPast=False&Page=1&Month=0&Year=0&CoinTypes=Sumokoin+%28SUMO%29&SortBy=0
New features since March 31!
New features since March 31!
March 09, 2018, 07:08:48 AM
At the now moment blockchain 6.29 GB.
Is it planned to connect to a remote node in the future, an light wallet option?
It would be very necessary and useful.
Is it planned to connect to a remote node in the future, an light wallet option?
It would be very necessary and useful.
March 09, 2018, 06:57:38 AM
Has anyone been able to successfully withdraw their coins to their own wallet from Craptopia in the past 24-48 hours?
I'm asking because my withdrawal which was stuck for a freaking month didn't go through, but luckily it got cancelled for some reason (no response to my support ticket whatsoever though) and they say I should try again.
I obviously don't trust them at all at this point, and there's no way I'm keeping anything on that shit exchange anymore. Lesson learned.
But since I really don't want to sell my SUMO, did anyone manage to successfuly withdraw their SUMO from Craptopia to their wallets in the past 1-2 days?
Otherwise I'll just have to sell and cash out in BTC or whatever still works on that shit exchange.
I'm asking because my withdrawal which was stuck for a freaking month didn't go through, but luckily it got cancelled for some reason (no response to my support ticket whatsoever though) and they say I should try again.
I obviously don't trust them at all at this point, and there's no way I'm keeping anything on that shit exchange anymore. Lesson learned.
But since I really don't want to sell my SUMO, did anyone manage to successfuly withdraw their SUMO from Craptopia to their wallets in the past 1-2 days?
Otherwise I'll just have to sell and cash out in BTC or whatever still works on that shit exchange.
I’m based in Australia so maybe the proximity to cryptopia in New Zealand helps, but for me it generally takes a few minutes for a withdrawal to hit my Sumo wallet and less than half an hour before it’s unlocked. Have done a few withdrawals over the last couple of weeks and the last one was today. No issues.
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