⚡[ANN] TOKENPAY ⚡ SCAMMED 1 MILLION $ FROM BOUNTY AND REFERRAL PROGRAM ⚡ - page 16.

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Quote from: operabit on June 17, 2018, 03:25:47 PM

Quote from: scolary23 on June 17, 2018, 02:58:45 PM

Maybe you're right. But the team will greatly spoil their reputation, their actions. Even if they planned it in advance, it's a bad idea. I think they doubt.

The team should be more professional, they do not know many people who will be disappointed with what they do, many people who feel disadvantaged is also a form of fraud and hopefully will not happen again.

The team MUST be more professional when they raised many USD from their ICO program and with big partnership (at least by their point of view). I wonder why still after such a long time here in this thread there is no clear statement from the dev team and I'm not talking about that short message on bounty thread.

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Quote from: operabit on June 17, 2018, 03:25:47 PM

Quote from: scolary23 on June 17, 2018, 02:58:45 PM

Maybe you're right. But the team will greatly spoil their reputation, their actions. Even if they planned it in advance, it's a bad idea. I think they doubt.

The team should be more professional, they do not know many people who will be disappointed with what they do, many people who feel disadvantaged is also a form of fraud and hopefully will not happen again.

It was impossible that they don't know that people are disappointed because many of the bounty hunters that joined on this tokenpay campaign has been asking it in their chats and its being numb without sensing what the others felt. By moving on there we can nothing to do just to make others know that the Team is not professional on its promises.

The situation is difficult for the bounty hunter of TokenPay bounty campaign and especially after having received the feedback by Lutpin a respectable Bounty manager and member of bitcointalk.

It only occurs to me that we need to create a new data of all the work and verify each of the wallet addresses and request the payment of the TokenPay bounty campaign but to make it possible, all Bounty hunters must join and contribute to its creation.

TokenPay was my second participation in a bounty campaign I was a total newbie and today I still have a lot to learn. We have a neuralgic problem in bitcointalk and it's time to do something if we want our crypto space to improve.

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Quote from: operabit on June 17, 2018, 03:25:47 PM

Quote from: scolary23 on June 17, 2018, 02:58:45 PM

Maybe you're right. But the team will greatly spoil their reputation, their actions. Even if they planned it in advance, it's a bad idea. I think they doubt.

The team should be more professional, they do not know many people who will be disappointed with what they do, many people who feel disadvantaged is also a form of fraud and hopefully will not happen again.

It was impossible that they don't know that people are disappointed because many of the bounty hunters that joined on this tokenpay campaign has been asking it in their chats and its being numb without sensing what the others felt. By moving on there we can nothing to do just to make others know that the Team is not professional on its promises.

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Quote from: scolary23 on June 17, 2018, 02:58:45 PM

Maybe you're right. But the team will greatly spoil their reputation, their actions. Even if they planned it in advance, it's a bad idea. I think they doubt.

The team should be more professional, they do not know many people who will be disappointed with what they do, many people who feel disadvantaged is also a form of fraud and hopefully will not happen again.

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Maybe you're right. But the team will greatly spoil their reputation, their actions. Even if they planned it in advance, it's a bad idea. I think they doubt.

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Quote from: wwzsocki on June 14, 2018, 11:09:46 AM

This case is complicated. First of all, I don't understand why any project hires member with a reputation like Jamal has for a bounty management. This is like asking for trouble or they did it on purpose. Tokenpay hired Jamal because it is easy to accuse him of scam because of his bad reputation. I don't know if this is the case but looks like. I have few questions to better understand this situation.

Why such a big project like Tokenpay hire member with such a bad reputation?
Why bounty hunters join such a bounty campaign managed by an untrusted member?
Why there is no other scam thread started by united bounty hunters against Tokenpay?
Why didn't they pay to bounty hunters if Jamal is a scammer? What is the exact explanation?
Why bounty hunters don't look for help by BTT staff or established high rank members?

Thank you, for your good sense I am one of the affected bounty hunters. The TokenPay Bounty campaign was my second bounty I had no experience, nor what it meant to join a Bounty campaign led by a Bounty manager with "bad reputation".

Until May 1, I had hope of receiving my reward because I received an email from TokenPay indicating that they would take control to give us our TPAY. And on May 23 I learned from one of the TokenPay administrators on Telegram that we would not receive the reward according to this message from the Administrators.
We were denied many times that we did not ask about bounty because we would be banned. And since then we have not had advances. Only this thread to demonstrate our discontent.

Going through their logic what is going on with that 10% wallets which are not 'fraudulent' Huh

Throughout this thread there have been manifestations of members who participated in the bounty. Jamal created this thread to unite the affected members and demand for the payment of the bounty.

The last time I wrote a message on the TokenPay telegram channel and I mentioned that I was not a fake profile and that on social media I have my same identity and that they could do to the bounty participants a KYC my message was deleted in the chat. If TokenPay would like to pay the bounty, it would take the fairest decision to do so and has not done so.

TokenPay as an organization that aspires to success based on the security of its products and the transparency that implies using blockchain technology has overlooked the commitment to pay for its bounty campaign. The TokenPay White Paper does not mention the distribution of the tokens only a remarkable vision, mission and future products. It does not show how in other ICO the distribution of Token maybe this fact was premeditated.

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Quote from: verita1 on June 16, 2018, 11:07:16 PM

Quote from: wwzsocki on June 14, 2018, 11:09:46 AM

This case is complicated. First of all, I don't understand why any project hires member with a reputation like Jamal has for a bounty management. This is like asking for trouble or they did it on purpose. Tokenpay hired Jamal because it is easy to accuse him of scam because of his bad reputation. I don't know if this is the case but looks like. I have few questions to better understand this situation.

Why such a big project like Tokenpay hire member with such a bad reputation?
Why bounty hunters join such a bounty campaign managed by an untrusted member?
Why there is no other scam thread started by united bounty hunters against Tokenpay?
Why didn't they pay to bounty hunters if Jamal is a scammer? What is the exact explanation?
Why bounty hunters don't look for help by BTT staff or established high rank members?

Thank you, for your good sense I am one of the affected bounty hunters. The TokenPay Bounty campaign was my second bounty I had no experience, nor what it meant to join a Bounty campaign led by a Bounty manager with "bad reputation".

Until May 1, I had hope of receiving my reward because I received an email from TokenPay indicating that they would take control to give us our TPAY. And on May 23 I learned from one of the TokenPay administrators on Telegram that we would not receive the reward according to this message from the Administrators.
We were denied many times that we did not ask about bounty because we would be banned. And since then we have not had advances. Only this thread to demonstrate our discontent.

Going through their logic what is going on with that 10% wallets which are not 'fraudulent' Huh

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Quote from: wwzsocki on June 14, 2018, 11:09:46 AM

This case is complicated. First of all, I don't understand why any project hires member with a reputation like Jamal has for a bounty management. This is like asking for trouble or they did it on purpose. Tokenpay hired Jamal because it is easy to accuse him of scam because of his bad reputation. I don't know if this is the case but looks like. I have few questions to better understand this situation.

Why such a big project like Tokenpay hire member with such a bad reputation?
Why bounty hunters join such a bounty campaign managed by an untrusted member?
Why there is no other scam thread started by united bounty hunters against Tokenpay?
Why didn't they pay to bounty hunters if Jamal is a scammer? What is the exact explanation?
Why bounty hunters don't look for help by BTT staff or established high rank members?

Thank you, for your good sense I am one of the affected bounty hunters. The TokenPay Bounty campaign was my second bounty I had no experience, nor what it meant to join a Bounty campaign led by a Bounty manager with "bad reputation".

Until May 1, I had hope of receiving my reward because I received an email from TokenPay indicating that they would take control to give us our TPAY. And on May 23 I learned from one of the TokenPay administrators on Telegram that we would not receive the reward according to this message from the Administrators.
We were denied many times that we did not ask about bounty because we would be banned. And since then we have not had advances. Only this thread to demonstrate our discontent.

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Quote from: eqaz-nl on June 02, 2018, 05:58:16 PM

Wait a second here,

Mr. Jamal, why do you ruin such a fantastic project.. You are kinda busy with calling the entire Tokenpay a scam.. But Mr. Derek Capo it's doubts about you are not unfair.. according to this topic for example (there are much more);
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3149900.10

Many more of those topics are around here anywhere.. It's actually very low of yourself to abuse your power by creating this thread on first instance and now you changed the entire topic with only bullshit... for all i know you just faked those skype conversations.. you're not trustworthy mate... You should empty this topic thread and set it back to what was in it ...

Stop with your actions and stop with bullshitting..

Even your own profile says you can't be trusted..

And a lot more can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=721115 an entire list that is red, you go boy...

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Quote from: wwzsocki on May 25, 2018, 06:07:50 PM

I read this thread and now I'm confused because I thought that only translations bounty and the management fee was not paid. Now I see, nothing was paid. If they don't pay a dime I don't understand why is so quiet?

Lately, Envion has problems because of lawsuits and bounty payments are on hold. Already there is 10 pages more each day in bounty thread and people join groups and talk how to act further together against Envion.

I don't see bounty hunters screaming here "Tokenpay scammers" or unite to fight for payout. Only Jamal tries to make some noise but he has so much red paint in account together with a countless scam and bad bounty management accusations, that I'm not convinced at all to trust him.

Jamal bought large chunk if not all Tokenpay coins from bounty hunters before bounty distribution. Am I right?
That is why Tokenpay accused him of scam and why bounty hunters don't complain. Because most of them get paid from Jamal and now only he is losing a lot of money. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Actually I also don't have receive tokenpay bounty reward, we already submit claim form and post our tpay address in our bitcointalk profile, I think because of bounty hunter direct asking about bounty in official telegram channel, I saw that

Tokenpay team said that jamalaezaz scam
Jamalaezaz told us tokenpay scam and don't paid bounty reward

so actually I don't know which one is true, I only know that my tpay wallet (install more than 3 month) still don't have any tokens

If you don't know who is true then read the first post of this thread.. I have posted proofs . I did not only bullish about tokenpay team. but tokenpay team only said that jamal Scam. but they don't have any proof of that which means they are the real scammers.

Yeah, if you don't know who speaks the truth. Hell, I do not even trust a word you're saying. According to my starting post about you, who should trust you?!

Allow me to make some amendments.
Firstly, if the project is fantastic, then this is thanks to bounty hunters. Secondly, the fucked Derek Capo is a real rascal and a thief, because he had to pay all those who honestly worked. I'm not interested in Jamal's reputation, because I have eyes and I read Jamal's evidence, and your fucked Derek does not have any evidence.

The best way to kill bullshit is not even responding to it. So Derek Capo is entirely right on this one. If you are not interested in Jamal's history you are an idiot. As I see and read the entire conversation Derek has suspicion that he scammed people, as Derek said he wants to pay the people themselve and I don't read in the conversation he ever delivered a spreadsheet with tokenpay wallet(s) of the helpers.. The only thing that has been screenshotted is the negativity of Derek Capo.. But the rest of the conversation is not visible.. So first things first post a complete chat-history.. instead of this half-baked bullshit.

In short, or we will get our earned, or we will tell all people that Derek and his team are scammers. This fucking project will be destroyed.

So in short, you are one of the people who got scammed? If yes, on what do you base that? As far as I could see maybe Jamal is even constructing this scam and runs away with the money and uses the words of Derek Capo in his benefit. Nobody can say if the posted screenshots are complete.. edited.. or real..

I am ready to give my skype login details to any trusted person to check and verify these chats with Derek capo.. I only skipped the unnecessary chatting..

Well, start a Teamviewer session and let me check.. I do not need any login details. But yeah, you can fake a Skype account as well.. so not sure how trustworthy that is..

tokenpay is a gathering of greedy people no repayment
I was not appreciated by their team when I asked my gift on twitter they blocked my twitter.

This case is complicated. First of all, I don't understand why any project hires member with a reputation like Jamal has for a bounty management. This is like asking for trouble or they did it on purpose. Tokenpay hired Jamal because it is easy to accuse him of scam because of his bad reputation. I don't know if this is the case but looks like. I have few questions to better understand this situation.

Why such a big project like Tokenpay hire member with such a bad reputation?
Why bounty hunters join such a bounty campaign managed by an untrusted member?
Why there is no other scam thread started by united bounty hunters against Tokenpay?
Why didn't they pay to bounty hunters if Jamal is a scammer? What is the exact explanation?
Why bounty hunters don't look for help by BTT staff or established high rank members?

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Quote from: sergsen on June 13, 2018, 03:28:28 PM

time goes, there is no payout, the company behaves as if nothing had happened

Even more funny when we know that somebody from dev team said that in case of their 'thinking' the 'real' bounty hunters will be paid Huh

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this is bad, dont buy this. abit of issue is an issue nonetheless

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Quote from: Dimosscolorist on June 10, 2018, 10:16:56 AM

I'm a real participant, and I took part in Twitter and Facebook companies. And I do not understand the reasons for non-payment from the team tokenpay. The tokenpay team must consider and settle this. Many participants are waiting for an honestly earned reward. Huh

It's really unfair, some people are innocent and doesn't deserve to be treated like this, maybe the team will reconsider their decision and decide to pay the people who are legit

I don't think this team gonna pay I have joined many campaigns when this type issue comes up then both team and Bounty manager needs to resolve the issue. But here both of them are balming each other. I also had conversations with the team and they promised me to to pay after showing the proof of my work and now they are not replying. This means they want to scam whole money.

Oh alright, I guess this is really bad then. I hope the team won't get away with this, this is so unfair and sad. The team raised a lot of money it won't hurt them to give back a little bit to the community.

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Quote from: sergsen on June 13, 2018, 03:28:28 PM

time goes, there is no payout, the company behaves as if nothing had happened

Exactly, we are the one who lose money here because of our effort, it's not fair they need to pay us and be responsible.
I am still hoping that one day they will realize they have to be fair to everyone who work to achieve their success.

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time goes, there is no payout, the company behaves as if nothing had happened

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Quote from: jeanpierre on June 13, 2018, 09:40:23 AM

Quote from: Dimosscolorist on June 10, 2018, 10:16:56 AM

I'm a real participant, and I took part in Twitter and Facebook companies. And I do not understand the reasons for non-payment from the team tokenpay. The tokenpay team must consider and settle this. Many participants are waiting for an honestly earned reward. Huh

It's really unfair, some people are innocent and doesn't deserve to be treated like this, maybe the team will reconsider their decision and decide to pay the people who are legit

I don't think this team gonna pay I have joined many campaigns when this type issue comes up then both team and Bounty manager needs to resolve the issue. But here both of them are balming each other. I also had conversations with the team and they promised me to to pay after showing the proof of my work and now they are not replying. This means they want to scam whole money.

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Quote from: Dimosscolorist on June 10, 2018, 10:16:56 AM

I'm a real participant, and I took part in Twitter and Facebook companies. And I do not understand the reasons for non-payment from the team tokenpay. The tokenpay team must consider and settle this. Many participants are waiting for an honestly earned reward. Huh

It's really unfair, some people are innocent and doesn't deserve to be treated like this, maybe the team will reconsider their decision and decide to pay the people who are legit

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It is a stealing of bounty campaign funds. They can not pay because they have some 'informations' that bounty manager and his team scammed the whole bounty campaing. And yes without providing any proof case.

the proofs was in jamal's spreadsheets
why you think we can't access it anymore?
when we work for a scammer, we pay the price

and stop to defend jamal, those alt and his team
not be paid because manager cheated, never happened to managers as sylon, tokensuite, amazix and others legit BM

If you think that bounty manager (with his team or not) cheated in bounty campaign is it unnormal to post the proofs? Because I can't see proof of jamal cheating from Tokenpay team.
If they audited jamal job done for sure there need to be some saved proofs of their words! Huh

i did participate only in twitter, i saved it because when i checked before the end i had a week missing, i said him and he corrected it
but like i didnt trust him i wanted a guarantee
http://myreader.toile-libre.org/tokenpay.pdf

i guess tokenpay's team who are also scammers checked the sheet and when they saw the fake accounts than jamal or his team added in sheet, they fucked everyone, including us, the legit bounty hunters

Maybe, but do you really think that they did save any proof of their job done and what they're saying?

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I'm a real participant, and I took part in Twitter and Facebook companies. And I do not understand the reasons for non-payment from the team tokenpay. The tokenpay team must consider and settle this. Many participants are waiting for an honestly earned reward. Huh

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