I paid for my August order! Which currently sits in Dave's Datacenter hashing away.
good for you!
Funny how you make an accusation and fail to apologize when you are wrong! Kano tried to pay for a starter unit and was told no.
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September 10, 2013, 08:46:59 AM
good for you!
Funny how you make an accusation and fail to apologize when you are wrong! Kano tried to pay for a starter unit and was told no.
September 10, 2013, 08:45:48 AM
wow, you're right. The pool is PPS with 7.5% fees, which is absolutely insane.
He is on PPLNS(3% fee), since he is also getting NMC. Only PPLNS gives merged mining NMC.And how is that a justification for using paid for and non-delivered hardware for his own purposes instead of walking his talk.
September 10, 2013, 08:43:58 AM
I paid for my August order! Which currently sits in Dave's Datacenter hashing away.
good for you!
September 10, 2013, 08:42:46 AM
wow, you're right. The pool is PPS with 7.5% fees, which is absolutely insane.
He is on PPLNS(3% fee), since he is also getting NMC. Only PPLNS gives merged mining NMC.And how is that a justification for using paid for and non-delivered hardware for his own purposes instead of walking his talk.
September 10, 2013, 08:40:42 AM
August deliveries is what we are talking about! Your right. You are not punin, so stop talking for him.
no, we are talking about you trying to get some sample hardware before all customers are served with existing/working software solution.
I paid for my August order! Which currently sits in Dave's Datacenter hashing away.
September 10, 2013, 08:39:14 AM
August deliveries is what we are talking about! Your right. You are not punin, so stop talking for him.
no, we are talking about you trying to get some sample hardware before all customers are served with existing/working software solution.
September 10, 2013, 08:36:47 AM
You said "suppose", the fact is you do not actually know. He has delivered all the product to his customer, He has his mine running, that might be his "other priorities right now".
yes I did say that, because I am not punin.
And no, he didnt deliver to all his customers, he only did august shipment. much more work ahead.
try harder.
August deliveries is what we are talking about! Your right, you are not punin, so stop talking for him.
September 10, 2013, 08:36:06 AM
wow, you're right. The pool is PPS with 7.5% fees, which is absolutely insane.
He is on PPLNS(3% fee), since he is also getting NMC. Only PPLNS gives merged mining NMC.And how is that a justification for using paid for and non-delivered hardware for his own purposes instead of walking his talk.
We managed to put up 10TH in un-optimized rigs today. We fought networking gremlins early in the day, but still put together almost 50 rigs. Tomorrow we'll swap out bad cards and should see another 5TH (reaching 35TH total for the mine). More team members arrive tomorrow, so I hope to hit that 60TH mark.
Cheers,
Dave
Cheers,
Dave
Yes - 50 Rigs - how many outstanding orders - 53
September 10, 2013, 08:35:18 AM
You said "suppose", the fact is you do not actually know. He has delivered all the product to his customer, He has his mine running, that might be his "other priorities right now".
yes I did say that, because I am not punin. I saw the hashes he was getting with cgminer and I cant find a reason why he wouldnt continue to work on it, and provide support.
And no, he didnt deliver to all his customers, he only did august shipment. much more work ahead.
try harder.
September 10, 2013, 08:27:35 AM
wow, you're right. The pool is PPS with 7.5% fees, which is absolutely insane.
He is on PPLNS(3% fee), since he is also getting NMC. Only PPLNS gives merged mining NMC. September 10, 2013, 08:25:15 AM
Punin is working on cgminer implementation.
Is he going to support it going forward?
I suppose he will. He actually managed to get it hashing, but have other priorities right now.
No, I said that he has to deliever products to his customers first, and then provide support.
September 10, 2013, 08:01:41 AM
Punin is working on cgminer implementation.
Is he going to support it going forward?
I suppose he will. He actually managed to get it hashing, but have other priorities right now.
No, I said that he has to deliever products to his customers first, and then provide support.
September 10, 2013, 08:00:33 AM
Punin is working on cgminer implementation.
Is he going to support it going forward?
I suppose he will. He actually managed to get it hashing, but have other priorities right now.
September 10, 2013, 07:57:07 AM
Punin is working on cgminer implementation.
Is he going to support it going forward?
I suppose he will. He actually managed to get it hashing, but have other priorities right now.
September 10, 2013, 07:56:05 AM
Punin is working on cgminer implementation.
Is he going to support it going forward?
I suppose he will. He actually managed to get it hashing, but have other priorities right now.
September 10, 2013, 07:51:35 AM
Punin is working on cgminer implementation.
September 10, 2013, 07:39:18 AM
One of the selling points was a "fork" of cgminer (I am a mod on IRC #cgminer and do testing of cgminer). Well established and always forked.
The software chainminer using "getwork" REALLY, it seems even a year after it's release, you have a patch work solution for stratum, the major protocol of mining pools.
chainminer has no relation to cgminer. Putin's comments on he'll work on it when he can, shows his priorities.
I asked specifically if Dave was sending a board to Con and Kano and he said he would, he didn't, guess it's another fail or bad decision.
The software chainminer using "getwork" REALLY, it seems even a year after it's release, you have a patch work solution for stratum, the major protocol of mining pools.
chainminer has no relation to cgminer. Putin's comments on he'll work on it when he can, shows his priorities.
I asked specifically if Dave was sending a board to Con and Kano and he said he would, he didn't, guess it's another fail or bad decision.
September 10, 2013, 07:29:33 AM
Woohoo - got my starter kit out of billing-address limbo!
Aaand...
At the pool!!
38W at the wall on 120V, which seems pretty good given how lightly I'm loading the PS (Corsair TX750).
I have some tips to improve performance on the software side that I'm collecting as I roll them out here;
I've got my pi's load average down to 0.10 and total CPU utilization at ~5% with only two shares rejected in the last hour.
Aaand...
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Hashrate 1hr 34665 Mh/s
At the pool!!
38W at the wall on 120V, which seems pretty good given how lightly I'm loading the PS (Corsair TX750).
I have some tips to improve performance on the software side that I'm collecting as I roll them out here;
I've got my pi's load average down to 0.10 and total CPU utilization at ~5% with only two shares rejected in the last hour.
How did you get get up so high for 25Gh/s starter kit?
That's probably a fluctuation on the high side. The nature of Poisson processes means there's uncertainty equal to 2x the square root of the number of shares returned (at the 95% confidence level). That was 24480 diff1 shares at difficulty 32, so 765 diff32 shares; 2*sqrt(765) = 55, so I should report the rate as 34500 +/- 2500.
But, more to your point, pencil mod to achieve 0.74Vdd at the lowest voltage chip plus heatsink on back of board under regulator thermal vias. Stratum proxies running on external (fast) host; chainminer recompiled with
Code:
-Ofast -march=armv6zk -mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=vfp -fno-strict-aliasing
instead of the default optimization flags. No manual chip tuning at this point. Estimate ~80% of the increase is due to the Vdd change, but I'm not going to slow things down to take better measurements
I will note that if this were achievable on all 16 cards the full kit would be >550GH/s!Pool hash rates and short term hash rates can fluctuate dramatically.
Using a known accurate method will be way more useful that whatever you are using.
Oh well.
September 10, 2013, 07:23:05 AM
We ran short of M-boards due to the factory shortage of parts I mentioned. I had hoped they would pick up the slack in production, but the break in production was felt last week when the shipment finally arrived from AK customs with no M-boards. According to tracking, we only expect 12 tomorrow. Every starter kit we send out takes 16 slots from the mine. We have 54 starters left to ship.
A cost analysis shows that we would lose over 20TH if we ship out of the mine - taking over 800 cards out of the picture, which does not work well from a financial perspective.
The solution is to dedicate four rigs to a separate mining account and then send each customer their share of the coin once we ship. Of course the customer will not pay a hosting fee or their share of power. I have already repointed the hashpower to this dedicated account: https://www.btcguild.com/api.php?api_key=23fcc6a0f8292fe394b1706da8c0d304.
As soon as we ship these units, we will distribute the coin accordingly. Thanks for your patience on this - please look for an email requesting your payment address before you send it to us.
Best,
Dave
A cost analysis shows that we would lose over 20TH if we ship out of the mine - taking over 800 cards out of the picture, which does not work well from a financial perspective.
The solution is to dedicate four rigs to a separate mining account and then send each customer their share of the coin once we ship. Of course the customer will not pay a hosting fee or their share of power. I have already repointed the hashpower to this dedicated account: https://www.btcguild.com/api.php?api_key=23fcc6a0f8292fe394b1706da8c0d304.
As soon as we ship these units, we will distribute the coin accordingly. Thanks for your patience on this - please look for an email requesting your payment address before you send it to us.
Best,
Dave
So your using the M-Boards that were allocated to our orders to maintain your mine (I am an share holder) and you have allocated 4 rigs at BTC Guild at the PPS rate (as per the API) with a 7.5% fee((1 / Network Difficulty * 25) - Pool Fee (7.5%) https://www.btcguild.com//index.php?page=support§ion=howamipaid one of the highest pool fees out there).
Seems to me that your failing to walk your talk to ship out August orders before populating your mine. Let us not forget the rigs going to LabRatMining (which I am a shareholder also) which were purchased after most August orders were placed.
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A cost analysis shows that we would lose over 20TH if we ship out of the mine - taking over 800 cards out of the picture, which does not work well from a financial perspective.
This could be considered a grave financial impropriety.
Please enlighten me as to how that is adventurous to us, seems like we are funding the operation of your mine with our equipment and getting paid way less than our own individual strategies. What advantage is that to us, are you sending extra h boards to compensate? Because the BTC payment based on your decisions seems way unfair and you are profiting way more by holding our equipment while the production errors are catching up. Even now, we will not be able to achieve any ROI http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/9373700baf
You apparently have the equipment as per your analysis. I know I paid the full overnight shipping fee for an August starter kit. If your taking 800 cards out of the picture by shipping out our paid for equipment, we are getting Avaloned and your decision to do this without asking those of us waiting for orders is a poor choice.
You were doing so good, what happened to you.
wow, you're right. The pool is PPS with 7.5% fees, which is absolutely insane. furthermore, the current hashrate looks to be around 18Ghash per starter kit (if there are 54 as claimed). I don't mind my order being hosted until more m-borads show up, but i feel like the choice of pool and bare minimum of hardware allocated to it (i saw it get as high as 27Ghash and less than 18Ghash, which indicates it is at a loss compared with the starter kits' extra EOL card that ensures 25-35Ghash for those already up and running at home)
People who are mining with starter kits at home are producing almost 150% the bitcoins that this hosting does because of the >=25Ghash speeds and low fee pools available (seriously, 7.5%?)
I respect everything you've done dave, but this is a pretty blatant mistake. Punin shipped every single august order within about 3 days using extra h-boards and V2 M-boards. Hopefully we can get an update soon
September 10, 2013, 06:01:35 AM
We ran short of M-boards due to the factory shortage of parts I mentioned. I had hoped they would pick up the slack in production, but the break in production was felt last week when the shipment finally arrived from AK customs with no M-boards. According to tracking, we only expect 12 tomorrow. Every starter kit we send out takes 16 slots from the mine. We have 54 starters left to ship.
A cost analysis shows that we would lose over 20TH if we ship out of the mine - taking over 800 cards out of the picture, which does not work well from a financial perspective.
The solution is to dedicate four rigs to a separate mining account and then send each customer their share of the coin once we ship. Of course the customer will not pay a hosting fee or their share of power. I have already repointed the hashpower to this dedicated account: https://www.btcguild.com/api.php?api_key=23fcc6a0f8292fe394b1706da8c0d304.
As soon as we ship these units, we will distribute the coin accordingly. Thanks for your patience on this - please look for an email requesting your payment address before you send it to us.
Best,
Dave
A cost analysis shows that we would lose over 20TH if we ship out of the mine - taking over 800 cards out of the picture, which does not work well from a financial perspective.
The solution is to dedicate four rigs to a separate mining account and then send each customer their share of the coin once we ship. Of course the customer will not pay a hosting fee or their share of power. I have already repointed the hashpower to this dedicated account: https://www.btcguild.com/api.php?api_key=23fcc6a0f8292fe394b1706da8c0d304.
As soon as we ship these units, we will distribute the coin accordingly. Thanks for your patience on this - please look for an email requesting your payment address before you send it to us.
Best,
Dave
So, let me get this correct, your using the M-Boards that were allocated to our orders to maintain your mine (I am an share holder) and you have allocated 4 rigs at BTC Guild at the PPS rate (as per the API) with a 7.5% fee((1 / Network Difficulty * 25) - Pool Fee (7.5%) https://www.btcguild.com//index.php?page=support§ion=howamipaid one of the highest pool fees out there).
Seems to me that your failing to walk your talk to ship out August orders before populating your mine. Let us not forget the rigs going to LabRatMining (which I am a shareholder also) which were purchased after most August orders were placed.
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A cost analysis shows that we would lose over 20TH if we ship out of the mine - taking over 800 cards out of the picture, which does not work well from a financial perspective.
This could be considered a grave financial impropriety.
Please enlighten me as to how that is adventurous to us, seems like we are funding the operation of your mine with our equipment and getting paid way less than our own individual strategies. What advantage is that to us, are you sending extra h boards to compensate? Because the BTC payment based on your decisions seem inappropriate and you are profiting way more by holding our equipment while the production errors are catching up. Even now, we will not be able to achieve any ROI http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/9373700baf
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which does not work well from a financial perspective
You apparently have the equipment as per your analysis. I know I paid the full overnight shipping fee for an August starter kit. If your taking 800 cards out of the picture by shipping out our paid for equipment, we are getting Avaloned and your decision to do this without asking those of us waiting for orders is a poor choice.
You were doing so good, what happened to you.
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