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legendary
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Punin is working on cgminer implementation.

Is he going to support it going forward?
legendary
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Punin is working on cgminer implementation.
legendary
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I asked specifically if Dave was sending a board to Con and Kano and he said he would, he didn't, guess it's another fail or bad decision.

+1 That is a mistake.  Con/Kano and don't forget Luke, could make cgminer/bfgminer work with these devices in no time.
It could help sales of HW.  (Although, I don't think they need help).
hero member
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One of the selling points was a "fork" of cgminer (I am a mod on IRC #cgminer and do testing of cgminer). Well established and always forked.

The software chainminer using "getwork" REALLY,  it seems even a year after it's release, you have a patch work solution for stratum, the major protocol of mining pools.

chainminer has no relation to cgminer. Putin's comments on he'll work on it when he can, shows his priorities.

I asked specifically if Dave was sending a board to Con and Kano and he said he would, he didn't, guess it's another fail or bad decision.
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Woohoo - got my starter kit out of billing-address limbo!

Aaand...

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Hashrate 1hr   34665 Mh/s

At the pool!!


38W at the wall on 120V, which seems pretty good given how lightly I'm loading the PS (Corsair TX750).

I have some tips to improve performance on the software side that I'm collecting as I roll them out here;
I've got my pi's load average down to 0.10 and total CPU utilization at ~5% with only two shares rejected in the last hour.

  How did you get get up so high for 25Gh/s starter kit?

That's probably a fluctuation on the high side. The nature of Poisson processes means there's uncertainty equal to 2x the square root of the number of shares returned (at the 95% confidence level). That was 24480 diff1 shares at difficulty 32, so 765 diff32 shares; 2*sqrt(765) = 55, so I should report the rate as 34500 +/- 2500.

But, more to your point, pencil mod to achieve 0.74Vdd at the lowest voltage chip plus heatsink on back of board under regulator thermal vias. Stratum proxies running on external (fast) host; chainminer recompiled with

Code:
-Ofast -march=armv6zk -mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=vfp -fno-strict-aliasing

instead of the default optimization flags. No manual chip tuning at this point. Estimate ~80% of the increase is due to the Vdd change, but I'm not going to slow things down to take better measurements Smiley I will note that if this were achievable on all 16 cards the full kit would be >550GH/s!
If you were using the latest cgminer you'd look at WU over a period of time to be certain of your real hash rate ... oh wait you can't.
Pool hash rates and short term hash rates can fluctuate dramatically.
Using a known accurate method will be way more useful that whatever you are using.
Oh well.
legendary
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A cost analysis shows that we would lose over 20TH if we ship out of the mine - taking over 800 cards out of the picture, which does not work well from a financial perspective.

This could be considered a grave financial impropriety.

Please enlighten me as to how that is adventurous to us, seems like we are funding the operation of your mine with our equipment and getting paid way less than our own individual strategies. What advantage is that to us, are you sending extra h boards to compensate? Because the BTC payment based on your decisions seems way unfair and you are profiting way more by holding our equipment while the production errors are catching up. Even now, we will not be able to achieve any ROI http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/9373700baf
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which does not work well from a financial perspective

You apparently have the equipment as per your analysis. I know I paid the full overnight shipping fee for an August starter kit. If your taking 800 cards out of the picture by shipping out our paid for equipment, we are getting Avaloned and your decision to do this without asking those of us waiting for orders is a poor choice.

You were doing so good, what happened to you.

I asked them to send my order 149 without M-card.  I had order 89 that I placed few hours before 149.  I asked them to combine them, but they said they cannot do that so they sent out 89, but now they are holding 149.  I just need a working H-card from the 149 order.  They can send me M-card with my other October h-cards.  We'll see what they say.

legendary
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ASIC Wannabe
We ran short of M-boards due to the factory shortage of parts I mentioned.  I had hoped they would pick up the slack in production, but the break in production was felt last week when the shipment finally arrived from AK customs with no M-boards.  According to tracking, we only expect 12 tomorrow.  Every starter kit we send out takes 16 slots from the mine.  We have 54 starters left to ship.

A cost analysis shows that we would lose over 20TH if we ship out of the mine - taking over 800 cards out of the picture, which does not work well from a financial perspective.

The solution is to dedicate four rigs to a separate mining account and then send each customer their share of the coin once we ship.  Of course the customer will not pay a hosting fee or their share of power.  I have already repointed the hashpower to this dedicated account: https://www.btcguild.com/api.php?api_key=23fcc6a0f8292fe394b1706da8c0d304.  

As soon as we ship these units, we will distribute the coin accordingly.  Thanks for your patience on this - please look for an email requesting your payment address before you send it to us.

Best,
Dave


So your using the M-Boards that were allocated to our orders to maintain your mine (I am an share holder) and you have allocated 4 rigs at BTC Guild at the PPS rate (as per the API) with a 7.5% fee((1 / Network Difficulty * 25) - Pool Fee (7.5%) https://www.btcguild.com//index.php?page=support§ion=howamipaid  one of the highest pool fees out there).

Seems to me that your failing to walk your talk to ship out August orders before populating your mine. Let us not forget the rigs going to LabRatMining (which I am a shareholder also) which were purchased after most August orders were placed.

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A cost analysis shows that we would lose over 20TH if we ship out of the mine - taking over 800 cards out of the picture, which does not work well from a financial perspective.

This could be considered a grave financial impropriety.

Please enlighten me as to how that is adventurous to us, seems like we are funding the operation of your mine with our equipment and getting paid way less than our own individual strategies. What advantage is that to us, are you sending extra h boards to compensate? Because the BTC payment based on your decisions seems way unfair and you are profiting way more by holding our equipment while the production errors are catching up. Even now, we will not be able to achieve any ROI http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/9373700baf

You apparently have the equipment as per your analysis. I know I paid the full overnight shipping fee for an August starter kit. If your taking 800 cards out of the picture by shipping out our paid for equipment, we are getting Avaloned and your decision to do this without asking those of us waiting for orders is a poor choice.

You were doing so good, what happened to you.

wow, you're right. The pool is PPS with 7.5% fees, which is absolutely insane. furthermore, the current hashrate looks to be around 18Ghash per starter kit (if there are 54 as claimed). I don't mind my order being hosted until more m-borads show up, but i feel like the choice of pool and bare minimum of hardware allocated to it (i saw it get as high as 27Ghash and less than 18Ghash, which indicates it is at a loss compared with the starter kits' extra EOL card that ensures 25-35Ghash for those already up and running at home)

People who are mining with starter kits at home are producing almost 150% the bitcoins that this hosting does because of the >=25Ghash speeds and low fee pools available (seriously, 7.5%?)

I respect everything you've done dave, but this is a pretty blatant mistake. Punin shipped every single august order within about 3 days using extra h-boards and V2 M-boards. Hopefully we can get an update soon
hero member
Activity: 988
Merit: 1000
We ran short of M-boards due to the factory shortage of parts I mentioned.  I had hoped they would pick up the slack in production, but the break in production was felt last week when the shipment finally arrived from AK customs with no M-boards.  According to tracking, we only expect 12 tomorrow.  Every starter kit we send out takes 16 slots from the mine.  We have 54 starters left to ship.

A cost analysis shows that we would lose over 20TH if we ship out of the mine - taking over 800 cards out of the picture, which does not work well from a financial perspective.

The solution is to dedicate four rigs to a separate mining account and then send each customer their share of the coin once we ship.  Of course the customer will not pay a hosting fee or their share of power.  I have already repointed the hashpower to this dedicated account: https://www.btcguild.com/api.php?api_key=23fcc6a0f8292fe394b1706da8c0d304.  

As soon as we ship these units, we will distribute the coin accordingly.  Thanks for your patience on this - please look for an email requesting your payment address before you send it to us.

Best,
Dave


So, let me get this correct, your using the M-Boards that were allocated to our orders to maintain your mine (I am an share holder) and you have allocated 4 rigs at BTC Guild at the PPS rate (as per the API) with a 7.5% fee((1 / Network Difficulty * 25) - Pool Fee (7.5%) https://www.btcguild.com//index.php?page=support§ion=howamipaid  one of the highest pool fees out there).

Seems to me that your failing to walk your talk to ship out August orders before populating your mine. Let us not forget the rigs going to LabRatMining (which I am a shareholder also) which were purchased after most August orders were placed.

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A cost analysis shows that we would lose over 20TH if we ship out of the mine - taking over 800 cards out of the picture, which does not work well from a financial perspective.

This could be considered a grave financial impropriety.

Please enlighten me as to how that is adventurous to us, seems like we are funding the operation of your mine with our equipment and getting paid way less than our own individual strategies. What advantage is that to us, are you sending extra h boards to compensate? Because the BTC payment based on your decisions seem inappropriate and you are profiting way more by holding our equipment while the production errors are catching up. Even now, we will not be able to achieve any ROI http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/9373700baf
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which does not work well from a financial perspective

You apparently have the equipment as per your analysis. I know I paid the full overnight shipping fee for an August starter kit. If your taking 800 cards out of the picture by shipping out our paid for equipment, we are getting Avaloned and your decision to do this without asking those of us waiting for orders is a poor choice.

You were doing so good, what happened to you.
legendary
Activity: 1379
Merit: 1003
nec sine labore


But, more to your point, pencil mod to achieve 0.74Vdd at the lowest voltage chip plus heatsink on back of board under regulator thermal vias. Stratum proxies running on external (fast) host; chainminer recompiled with

Code:
-Ofast -march=armv6zk -mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=vfp -fno-strict-aliasing

instead of the default optimization flags. No manual chip tuning at this point. Estimate ~80% of the increase is due to the Vdd change, but I'm not going to slow things down to take better measurements Smiley I will note that if this were achievable on all 16 cards the full kit would be >550GH/s!

Care to share a photo of your modded boards?

spiccioli
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 265
Woohoo - got my starter kit out of billing-address limbo!

Aaand...

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Hashrate 1hr   34665 Mh/s

At the pool!!


38W at the wall on 120V, which seems pretty good given how lightly I'm loading the PS (Corsair TX750).

I have some tips to improve performance on the software side that I'm collecting as I roll them out here;
I've got my pi's load average down to 0.10 and total CPU utilization at ~5% with only two shares rejected in the last hour.

What's your noncerate at web-gui?
hero member
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Well, things certainly got quiet on this thread after that post....
E
full member
Activity: 234
Merit: 100
Woohoo - got my starter kit out of billing-address limbo!

Aaand...

Quote
Hashrate 1hr   34665 Mh/s

At the pool!!


38W at the wall on 120V, which seems pretty good given how lightly I'm loading the PS (Corsair TX750).

I have some tips to improve performance on the software side that I'm collecting as I roll them out here;
I've got my pi's load average down to 0.10 and total CPU utilization at ~5% with only two shares rejected in the last hour.

  How did you get get up so high for 25Gh/s starter kit?

That's probably a fluctuation on the high side. The nature of Poisson processes means there's uncertainty equal to 2x the square root of the number of shares returned (at the 95% confidence level). That was 24480 diff1 shares at difficulty 32, so 765 diff32 shares; 2*sqrt(765) = 55, so I should report the rate as 34500 +/- 2500.

But, more to your point, pencil mod to achieve 0.74Vdd at the lowest voltage chip plus heatsink on back of board under regulator thermal vias. Stratum proxies running on external (fast) host; chainminer recompiled with

Code:
-Ofast -march=armv6zk -mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=vfp -fno-strict-aliasing

instead of the default optimization flags. No manual chip tuning at this point. Estimate ~80% of the increase is due to the Vdd change, but I'm not going to slow things down to take better measurements Smiley I will note that if this were achievable on all 16 cards the full kit would be >550GH/s!
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
Woohoo - got my starter kit out of billing-address limbo!

Aaand...

Quote
Hashrate 1hr   34665 Mh/s

At the pool!!


38W at the wall on 120V, which seems pretty good given how lightly I'm loading the PS (Corsair TX750).

I have some tips to improve performance on the software side that I'm collecting as I roll them out here;
I've got my pi's load average down to 0.10 and total CPU utilization at ~5% with only two shares rejected in the last hour.

  How did you get get up so high for 25Gh/s starter kit?
E
full member
Activity: 234
Merit: 100
Woohoo - got my starter kit out of billing-address limbo!

Aaand...

Quote
Hashrate 1hr   34665 Mh/s

At the pool!!


38W at the wall on 120V, which seems pretty good given how lightly I'm loading the PS (Corsair TX750).

I have some tips to improve performance on the software side that I'm collecting as I roll them out here;
I've got my pi's load average down to 0.10 and total CPU utilization at ~5% with only two shares rejected in the last hour.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
Oh weird...  my hash rate went from 0 to 3 after half an hour, then went to 17, and now jumped back to 25.

I think there's something really funky going on with these chips... definitely do not feel like they're stable.  Almost like some chips shutting down for a while and then coming back to life when they feel like it.

I saw the same happening on my chips. Two days ago I was good with 75-77. They keep jumping from 60 to 77 as they please. If you have any information on why this happens please let me know. I'm willing to test anything in case I can elaborate more on this behaviour

Same here.  My board just dropped back to 0 again.  I think there is something wrong.


ASIC devices are so time sensitive that I suspect we will see a lot of hardware and software issues with the new ASIC devices that are coming to market. Unfortunately, the early adopters are also beta testers.

I'm still on the fence about a BitFury purchase, so I'm watching intently...
member
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Oh weird...  my hash rate went from 0 to 3 after half an hour, then went to 17, and now jumped back to 25.

I think there's something really funky going on with these chips... definitely do not feel like they're stable.  Almost like some chips shutting down for a while and then coming back to life when they feel like it.

I saw the same happening on my chips. Two days ago I was good with 75-77. They keep jumping from 60 to 77 as they please. If you have any information on why this happens please let me know. I'm willing to test anything in case I can elaborate more on this behaviour

Same here.  My board just dropped back to 0 again.  I think there is something wrong.
sr. member
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Forgot a step....
Change pools - start hashing into  your own accounts instead of Daves

Haha, I wonder if there is anyone who forgot that step.

Just got my starter kit this morning and got it set up (order #89). Just a single H-board, no EOL. Reported noncerate is 26.872GH/s and 25.483GH/s on the pool. It's only been running for about 10 minutes, so I will update later after it has been running for a few hours.

I am very happy with Bitfury and MegaBigPower. Great job to everyone involved.

A few hours later, things are still looking good. 27.144GH/s noncerate and 26.915GH/s with diff 32 on BTC Guild.

  your diff too high and try to set your diff to 16.
hero member
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..yeah
Oh weird...  my hash rate went from 0 to 3 after half an hour, then went to 17, and now jumped back to 25.

I think there's something really funky going on with these chips... definitely do not feel like they're stable.  Almost like some chips shutting down for a while and then coming back to life when they feel like it.

I saw the same happening on my chips. Two days ago I was good with 75-77. They keep jumping from 60 to 77 as they please. If you have any information on why this happens please let me know. I'm willing to test anything in case I can elaborate more on this behaviour
member
Activity: 106
Merit: 10
Forgot a step....
Change pools - start hashing into  your own accounts instead of Daves

Haha, I wonder if there is anyone who forgot that step.

Just got my starter kit this morning and got it set up (order #89). Just a single H-board, no EOL. Reported noncerate is 26.872GH/s and 25.483GH/s on the pool. It's only been running for about 10 minutes, so I will update later after it has been running for a few hours.

I am very happy with Bitfury and MegaBigPower. Great job to everyone involved.

A few hours later, things are still looking good. 27.144GH/s noncerate and 26.915GH/s with diff 32 on BTC Guild.
member
Activity: 111
Merit: 10
Oh weird...  my hash rate went from 0 to 3 after half an hour, then went to 17, and now jumped back to 25.

I think there's something really funky going on with these chips... definitely do not feel like they're stable.  Almost like some chips shutting down for a while and then coming back to life when they feel like it.


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