[ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales NEW STOCK ***NOW SHIPPING*** - page 235.

rustyh17

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Quote from: Cablez on July 12, 2013, 10:37:12 AM

Quote from: rustyh17 on July 12, 2013, 09:58:42 AM

Quote from: Cablez on July 12, 2013, 09:44:23 AM

Quote from: -Redacted- on July 12, 2013, 08:31:25 AM

I guess we'll start to see in a few weeks.. I have the cost of a moderate house riding on KNC and the cost of a compact car riding on BitFury. I bought a crapload of BFL stuff, too, but it's likely to be worthless by the time it's delivered.

I know that this argument has been done to death but if you really are putting that kind of capital into mining hardware you would be much better served just buying BTC on the dips and riding waves.
Mining profit potential will be decreasing drastically and we do not know if any vendor can even meet their deadlines. BTC profit potential is much greater with discipline and a good strategy. Just saying

Cablez,

Miners is miners and traders is traders...and never the twain shall meet... Wink

In a way you are right. I do both and am not very good at either. lol

We're swimming in the same pool brother.... Wink

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Quote from: rustyh17 on July 12, 2013, 09:58:42 AM

Quote from: Cablez on July 12, 2013, 09:44:23 AM

Quote from: -Redacted- on July 12, 2013, 08:31:25 AM

I guess we'll start to see in a few weeks.. I have the cost of a moderate house riding on KNC and the cost of a compact car riding on BitFury. I bought a crapload of BFL stuff, too, but it's likely to be worthless by the time it's delivered.

I know that this argument has been done to death but if you really are putting that kind of capital into mining hardware you would be much better served just buying BTC on the dips and riding waves.
Mining profit potential will be decreasing drastically and we do not know if any vendor can even meet their deadlines. BTC profit potential is much greater with discipline and a good strategy. Just saying

Cablez,

Miners is miners and traders is traders...and never the twain shall meet... Wink

In a way you are right. I do both and am not very good at either. lol

bkpduke

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Mining traders? Mine the coins and then hoard them to push the price up?

Just saying Wink

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Quote from: Cablez on July 12, 2013, 09:44:23 AM

Quote from: -Redacted- on July 12, 2013, 08:31:25 AM

I guess we'll start to see in a few weeks.. I have the cost of a moderate house riding on KNC and the cost of a compact car riding on BitFury. I bought a crapload of BFL stuff, too, but it's likely to be worthless by the time it's delivered.

I know that this argument has been done to death but if you really are putting that kind of capital into mining hardware you would be much better served just buying BTC on the dips and riding waves.
Mining profit potential will be decreasing drastically and we do not know if any vendor can even meet their deadlines. BTC profit potential is much greater with discipline and a good strategy. Just saying

Cablez,

Miners is miners and traders is traders...and never the twain shall meet... Wink

Cablez

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Quote from: -Redacted- on July 12, 2013, 08:31:25 AM

I guess we'll start to see in a few weeks.. I have the cost of a moderate house riding on KNC and the cost of a compact car riding on BitFury. I bought a crapload of BFL stuff, too, but it's likely to be worthless by the time it's delivered.

I know that this argument has been done to death but if you really are putting that kind of capital into mining hardware you would be much better served just buying BTC on the dips and riding waves.
Mining profit potential will be decreasing drastically and we do not know if any vendor can even meet their deadlines. BTC profit potential is much greater with discipline and a good strategy. Just saying

allinvain

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Quote from: -Redacted- on July 12, 2013, 08:31:25 AM

I guess we'll start to see in a few weeks.. I have the cost of a moderate house riding on KNC and the cost of a compact car riding on BitFury. I bought a crapload of BFL stuff, too, but it's likely to be worthless by the time it's delivered.

Well you did apply a good strategy IMHO - spreading your risks. Hopefully KNC works out to make up for BFL's failures.

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I guess we'll start to see in a few weeks.. I have the cost of a moderate house riding on KNC and the cost of a compact car riding on BitFury. I bought a crapload of BFL stuff, too, but it's likely to be worthless by the time it's delivered.

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Quote from: -Redacted- on July 12, 2013, 07:38:24 AM

I think that whoever actually produces and delivers, on time and as promised, an economical product can own this market. (I'm not counting BFL as delivering - one days worth of orders shipped per week with more than a years worth of backlog is NOT delivering)

ASICMiner is probably the only group that can do that. Other than that you'll have to wait until AMD or Intel or some other major gpu/cpu producer gets in the game until your dream of on time delivery comes true.

Note to AMD and Intel, get in the btc market, we have people who are willing to pay 5 to 10x the market value for your future miner!

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I think that whoever actually produces and delivers, on time and as promised, an economical product can own this market. (I'm not counting BFL as delivering - one days worth of orders shipped per week with more than a years worth of backlog is NOT delivering)

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I think we are all a bit "foo" as you say, because this whole game is pretty much a gamble as we never know 100% sure when we will have hardware in hand. I think the safest strategy for long term success is to not place your eggs in one basket. Spread out your risks and spread them wide. Also do not get overly attached or fall in love with one hardware provider.

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BitcoinEvo [$XBTE]

You forgot Sir, there is line before you metabank.ru Kiss

or do you really believe someone paid for july 245 000€ miner and now is out of stock don't be foo. From board to factory production your August can be late oct.

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Quote from: tom99 on July 12, 2013, 01:12:45 AM

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Quote from: allinvain on July 12, 2013, 12:07:47 AM

Dave any chance of getting any more of those 25G August kits or are they all sold out permanently

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maybe not and did you see Oct. one same price but delivery in Oct.

Hmm, yeah I saw that, but after all it's Oct delivery. If I'm going to be taking the additional risk associated with Oct delivery I may as well jump in for the full 400G kit or get a KnCMiner Jupiter (slightly cheaper) - the additional hashing power will be necessary come Oct for sure.

yes, KNC cheaper but you have no idea when KNC is going to ship out but no way by end of Sept.

ps: power use from KNC more than BF power use.

True, it seems like the Bitfury team was a few steps ahead of the KNCMiner team. From what I heard the bitfury ASIC has been in development for the past 8 to 9 months or something like that. If KNC pull it off and deliver by the end of Sept I'll be impressed. In regard to power consumption one would think that KNC's chips would be more power efficient as they use a smaller manufacturing process (28nm) but (and someone can correct me if I'm wrong) from what I know the KNC chips are not designed the same as the bitfury chips - possible FPGA hardcopy.

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Quote from: allinvain on July 12, 2013, 12:43:06 AM

Quote from: tom99 on July 12, 2013, 12:12:00 AM

Quote from: allinvain on July 12, 2013, 12:07:47 AM

Dave any chance of getting any more of those 25G August kits or are they all sold out permanently

?

maybe not and did you see Oct. one same price but delivery in Oct.

Hmm, yeah I saw that, but after all it's Oct delivery. If I'm going to be taking the additional risk associated with Oct delivery I may as well jump in for the full 400G kit or get a KnCMiner Jupiter (slightly cheaper) - the additional hashing power will be necessary come Oct for sure.

yes, KNC cheaper but you have no idea when KNC is going to ship out but no way by end of Sept.

ps: power use from KNC more than BF power use.

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Quote from: tom99 on July 12, 2013, 12:12:00 AM

Quote from: allinvain on July 12, 2013, 12:07:47 AM

Dave any chance of getting any more of those 25G August kits or are they all sold out permanently

?

maybe not and did you see Oct. one same price but delivery in Oct.

Hmm, yeah I saw that, but after all it's Oct delivery. If I'm going to be taking the additional risk associated with Oct delivery I may as well jump in for the full 400G kit or get a KnCMiner Jupiter (slightly cheaper) - the additional hashing power will be necessary come Oct for sure.

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Quote from: allinvain on July 12, 2013, 12:07:47 AM

Dave any chance of getting any more of those 25G August kits or are they all sold out permanently

?

It sounded like they had a limited number of chips for retail boards because the bulk are going to the 100TH mine projects... though only 75TH are being deployed with this initial batch of chips.

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Quote from: allinvain on July 12, 2013, 12:07:47 AM

Dave any chance of getting any more of those 25G August kits or are they all sold out permanently

?

maybe not and did you see Oct. one same price but delivery in Oct.

allinvain

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Dave any chance of getting any more of those 25G August kits or are they all sold out permanently

?

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Ty Dave and Kat for verifying my order. Now please bump me up the list

(hey it don't hurt to request). =)

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Quote from: papaminer on July 11, 2013, 06:16:51 PM

Quote from: papaminer on July 11, 2013, 04:24:05 PM

Can I ask what is the difference between these two?

https://megabigpower.com/shop/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=50

versus

https://megabigpower.com/shop/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=53

I know for sure the month of delivery is different.

anybody?

Same only diff for delivery date one for Aug. and other one is Oct. Cheaper for Oct. order.

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Already answered - delivery month

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