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hero member
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My M-board has the screw blocks on it, looks like I just need to remove the screw real quick and attach the ring connectors. What I don't know is what wires do I then place in the ring connectors once I cut the extender. I realize one should contain the ground wires and the other power but not being very savvy when it comes to wiring period I'm not sure what goes where.

On a 6-pin PCIe connector, the three wires on the clip side are GND and the other three are +12V.
sr. member
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My M-board has the screw blocks on it, looks like I just need to remove the screw real quick and attach the ring connectors. What I don't know is what wires do I then place in the ring connectors once I cut the extender. I realize one should contain the ground wires and the other power but not being very savvy when it comes to wiring period I'm not sure what goes where.
hero member
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I think the V2 M-boards have empty positions for screw blocks. I'd get some PCIe cable extenders from eBay, cut off the male end, and solder the wires into those holes. That would add two more sockets so you can power the rig with four power cables.




http://www.ebay.com/itm/251382532478

I don't know if the wires in that cable are too thick for those board holes.
sr. member
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I think the V2 M-boards have empty positions for screw blocks. I'd get some PCIe cable extenders from eBay, cut off the male end, and solder the wires into those holes. That would add two more sockets so you can power the rig with four power cables.


Id love to see this in the guide so I can do this to my rig. It sounds easy enough but I have questions on how to do this correctly and would like to see some pictures of what it looks like.

Also do you have to solder them? I thought you could just attach them to some ring connectors then the connectors to the board?
hero member
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I think the V2 M-boards have empty positions for screw blocks. I'd get some PCIe cable extenders from eBay, cut off the male end, and solder the wires into those holes. That would add two more sockets so you can power the rig with four power cables.
hero member
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ANOTHER FIRE HAZARD WARNING:
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I also brought the voltage for all the cards down to 0.83 V. The loss in GH/s was minimal (the setup runs at 540 GH/s now) but I sleep much better.

About how much of a turn is needed to make a reasonable reduction in voltage?  A quarter turn counter-clockwise?  More?  Less?  I do not have a meter to measure the voltage directly, but at this point, both because of stability and risk of fire, I'm inclined to start making blind voltage reductions. I just need some indication of how sensitive the trimpot is so I know if I should make tiny turns/adjustments or larger turns/adjustments.

I do have a kill-a-watt, so can measure the power draw at the wall before and after making a change to see how much of a change I made...
legendary
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ANOTHER FIRE HAZARD WARNING:

One of my 16-card October kits that came calibrated at 0.865 V started to melt/burn at the PSU. It is a Seasonic Platinum 860W connected to the M-board using the standard 2 PCI-e power connector setup. It had been running fine for over a month at 620W and then suddenly I started smelling smoke coming from part where the modular connectors plug into the PSU.

Fortunately, it happened while I was in the room so I managed to shut it down before anything serious happened. 2 PCI-e modular ports on the PSU were melted and no longer usable. However, I managed to repair the rig using the other unused PSU ports. I now have it running with 2 x PCI-e cables AND a jerry rigged CPU 12V cable going to the ring terminals.

I also brought the voltage for all the cards down to 0.83 V. The loss in GH/s was minimal (the setup runs at 540 GH/s now) but I sleep much better.

Note: This is not the first time I've had a high-end modular PSU burn out at the modular connectors.

Well, c'mon guys, what do you expect. These systems were not engineered properly with that much power draw in mind. 620 watts is far too much to draw from just two 6pin pcie connectors for extended period of time. It will run fine for a short while as I've experienced when I melted my PSU's module plugs too. I now have the rig tuned to 500 GH and a power draw of 475watts. I'm not going any further than that as I don't feel like melting every damn PSU I have. This is with a V2 m-board which does NOT have the rig connectors so I can't use that to spread the load a bit.

If you can, measure amperage on each of the PCIE 6pin cables and see how much is going and make sure you do not exceed the rated maximum for the wire gauge your psu uses.

I've said this before, but I will say it again; I am shocked that they did not engineer the m-board with 3 or 4 separate 6pin PCIE connectors.
donator
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ANOTHER FIRE HAZARD WARNING:

One of my 16-card October kits that came calibrated at 0.865 V started to melt/burn at the PSU. It is a Seasonic Platinum 860W connected to the M-board using the standard 2 PCI-e power connector setup. It had been running fine for over a month at 620W and then suddenly I started smelling smoke coming from part where the modular connectors plug into the PSU.

Fortunately, it happened while I was in the room so I managed to shut it down before anything serious happened. 2 PCI-e modular ports on the PSU were melted and no longer usable. However, I managed to repair the rig using the other unused PSU ports. I now have it running with 2 x PCI-e cables AND a jerry rigged CPU 12V cable going to the ring terminals.

I also brought the voltage for all the cards down to 0.83 V. The loss in GH/s was minimal (the setup runs at 540 GH/s now) but I sleep much better.

Note: This is not the first time I've had a high-end modular PSU burn out at the modular connectors.
legendary
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Indeed I can confirm that V3 boards are the most stable I've had. V1.2 are iffy. They're too flaky for my liking and require constant maintenance, but that's the price we pay for getting in early I guess.
hero member
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Old-gen stuff would be on V1 and V2 m-boards at this point.  The photos show what appears to be a new generation of PCIe card with exposed metal for thermal dissipation on the back.  I just think it makes them more money to sell rather than deploy at the moment.  That makes 3 different versions of PCIe cards that I am aware of.   The somewhat problematic ones with the grey-metallic coil pack, the pulse coil ones, and now this.

You are correct.  These new ones with the metal backing can fit and work in both the V2 and V3 M-boards.

Don't V3 M-boards have completely different slots than V2 and V1 M-boards?

The V2 H-boards had the slot cut added because people were putting the V1 boards in backwards in the V1 M-boards and frying the whole units.  The V2 and the V3 tabs are the same.  V3s use a different SD image and the M-boards have a couple tweaks added to them to make the system run more smoothly. 
hero member
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Old-gen stuff would be on V1 and V2 m-boards at this point.  The photos show what appears to be a new generation of PCIe card with exposed metal for thermal dissipation on the back.  I just think it makes them more money to sell rather than deploy at the moment.  That makes 3 different versions of PCIe cards that I am aware of.   The somewhat problematic ones with the grey-metallic coil pack, the pulse coil ones, and now this.

You are correct.  These new ones with the metal backing can fit and work in both the V2 and V3 M-boards.

Don't V3 M-boards have completely different slots than V2 and V1 M-boards?
legendary
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30% difficulty increase now in effect. I suggest the prices drop 30%.
legendary
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I suspect they're upgrading their mining farm to something better and they're offloading the old gen stuff on all you dear customers. Bet you anything these are used or have been used in their mining farm.


No, these are the same boards we're using. 

Ah, ok. Well, it's fun to speculate once in a while. I hope you guys lower the price just a tiny bit more so I can grab a few v1.2 h-cards and _not_ lose money on them.
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the hashrate fluctuates a lot, so most 'drops' are just periods of low luck, rather than a change to the amount of hardware connected to the network. however, its likely the drop in value may be enough to dissuade any remaining fpga and GPU miners.

it may be possible too that some early adopters (gen 1 where >7GH/W) are limited from adding newer machines due to having BTC invested or already using several kW of power

Looking at bitcoinwisdom, it's starting to look like a bit of a trend rather than the usual hick-ups.  It's not like it's anything major at this point, just an oddity.  It would be nice to eak out another two weeks of about 0.01 BTC/day or better per card.  But, it's too early for that...
hero member
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Old-gen stuff would be on V1 and V2 m-boards at this point.  The photos show what appears to be a new generation of PCIe card with exposed metal for thermal dissipation on the back.  I just think it makes them more money to sell rather than deploy at the moment.  That makes 3 different versions of PCIe cards that I am aware of.   The somewhat problematic ones with the grey-metallic coil pack, the pulse coil ones, and now this.

You are correct.  These new ones with the metal backing can fit and work in both the V2 and V3 M-boards.
legendary
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ASIC Wannabe
Old-gen stuff would be on V1 and V2 m-boards at this point.  The photos show what appears to be a new generation of PCIe card with exposed metal for thermal dissipation on the back.  I just think it makes them more money to sell rather than deploy at the moment.  That makes 3 different versions of PCIe cards that I am aware of.   The somewhat problematic ones with the grey-metallic coil pack, the pulse coil ones, and now this.

I would be tempted in a halfy for $2000 in January.  Or, may be a quarter with some returned cards put in slot 2.  But, speaking of old stuff hitting the market, has anyone else noticed the sudden drop off in network hash-rate after China took a squat over the market?

Drop in network hashrate? I'm seeing close to 10 Ph/s. not seeingt any real drop.

the hashrate fluctuates a lot, so most 'drops' are just periods of low luck, rather than a change to the amount of hardware connected to the network. however, its likely the drop in value may be enough to dissuade any remaining fpga and GPU miners.

it may be possible too that some early adopters (gen 1 where >7GH/W) are limited from adding newer machines due to having BTC invested or already using several kW of power
legendary
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What the heck is going on with the forum.
hero member
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I suspect they're upgrading their mining farm to something better and they're offloading the old gen stuff on all you dear customers. Bet you anything these are used or have been used in their mining farm.


No, these are the same boards we're using. 
hero member
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Old-gen stuff would be on V1 and V2 m-boards at this point.  The photos show what appears to be a new generation of PCIe card with exposed metal for thermal dissipation on the back.  I just think it makes them more money to sell rather than deploy at the moment.  That makes 3 different versions of PCIe cards that I am aware of.   The somewhat problematic ones with the grey-metallic coil pack, the pulse coil ones, and now this.

I would be tempted in a halfy for $2000 in January.  Or, may be a quarter with some returned cards put in slot 2.  But, speaking of old stuff hitting the market, has anyone else noticed the sudden drop off in network hash-rate after China took a squat over the market?

Drop in network hashrate? I'm seeing close to 10 Ph/s. not seeingt any real drop.
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Old-gen stuff would be on V1 and V2 m-boards at this point.  The photos show what appears to be a new generation of PCIe card with exposed metal for thermal dissipation on the back.  I just think it makes them more money to sell rather than deploy at the moment.  That makes 3 different versions of PCIe cards that I am aware of.   The somewhat problematic ones with the grey-metallic coil pack, the pulse coil ones, and now this.

I would be tempted in a halfy for $2000 in January.  Or, may be a quarter with some returned cards put in slot 2.  But, speaking of old stuff hitting the market, has anyone else noticed the sudden drop off in network hash-rate after China took a squat over the market?
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