Topic: [ANN] ✰ WhaleMixer.com ✰ Mixer That Dispense Freshly Mined Coins (Read 2410 times)

I see that even your website is down right now!
I have not received any funds back!
I understand if you were ill, but why don't you fix things now?

Liars are back in bitcointalk forum and I wonder if this this is one trick pony show that is running this scam mixer, and if this pony has high temperature than all website is not working.
Another proof that everyone was done manually before, and I wouldn't trust anything written from this guy.

Please explain more what this establishment is exactly? A circus show maybe?

Lies.
Several people reported they lost funds, one member lost exactly 1 bitcoin if I remember correctly, and this happened more than a month ago:

How convenient to be away for 6 full weeks, starting the moment another scam accusation was made against you.

Nice catch! Just add it to the list of lies.

Sorry to hear you were ill. I do hope you feel better.
This being said: your site showed a daily updated "canary" telling your users everything was ok, while it was most certainly not... I assume this canary is fake then? I mean, if it automatically updates, it has no value whatsoever: you could have been in jail whilst your canary kept telling your users everything was fine.

I hope you can work things out with the people that have filed a scam accusation, i'm willing to delete my negative trust as soon as everything is worked out, and the alleged victims confirm their accusation got solved.

We been away due to covid infection,

We apologize as our whole establishment was severely effected

Actually there was no issue from our side balance, we have balanced our accounting sheets
please PM and explain the nature of your concern

Both of you should create new topics in Scam Accusation section and write in more details what happened and how you got scammed by whalemixer service and for how much.
He was last Active on 18 July 2021 and it's unlikely he will come back any time soon, but if they comes back again they should refund you for your loses.

I think it is scam. read the topic after sending coins this is my mistake.
no one answers, no coins came, although more than two days have passed

I had no idea about the issues, I thought is it safe to use them since I found the website on this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2023-list-bitcoin-mixers-bitcoin-tumblers-websites-2827109

After not receiving the coins.. I started reading about the mixer

there are far more credible mixers that are actively advertising here in the forum, why not mix the remaining amount that you want to be mixed on them. with the recent issues that have arisen, it would be for the best to just avoid the mixer in question.

So I am not the only one who did not received the coins? Also sent him a message but nobody answered!
When I try to login to see the status it says: Records not found.

Wanted to exchange lot more.. but had to see first how it works. Will post an update if I receive the coins or any answers.

Six hours is maximum time states on their website but you now passed all possible waiting limits.
You see many warnings we previously posted about whalemixer so why are you still trying to use their mixing service?
They are a proven liars (most likely scammers) and they are doing everything manually probably operated with one or two guys from some basement.
OP was last time active in bitcointalk forum on 18 July!

source of the quotes: w h a le m ixe r [dot][com]
The mixer's admin says (on his main page), and i quote:

He also says (on his main page), and i quote:

And i you would want to contact him, he says (on his main page), and i quote:
So, in the ideal situation, you shouldn't have had to wait longer than 6 hours, since he promised the site is fully automated. If you have a problem, he promised that he'd reply in less than 24 hours aswell...


HOWEVER......

• He has admitted he's not automated at all, he's just randomly sending funds... Some people have had to wait much longer than 6 hours
• Some people have mentioned waiting way more than 24 hours for support to answer them
• He also doesn't give out letters of guarantee for some fluke of a reason. So you have no way of proving he did not mix your coins
• He also charges a waaaaay higher fee than promised... He substracts the mining fee from the amount he's sending, eventough other mixer's don't do this, and he doesn't tell you he'll be doing this anywhere
• If you were mixing a bigger amount: the admin has admitted those numbers of coins "in stock" he has on his site are fake (well, he started twising words and splitting hairs, saying that he has PARTNERS that have this amount of coins, and he'll be able to get this amount from his PARTNERS)
• Eventough the admin keeps saying you'll get fresh coins: don't believe him... I analysed a mixing session shared by a known and trusted forum member, and there were no coinbase rewards within a meaningfull distance.

The *only* thing you can do is make a scam accusation and hope the admin tries to resolve your case. I would not recommand using this mixer ever again tough... I suspect this is either a manual one-man operation that doesn't really understand the concept of what he's doing, making promises and not keeping them, throwing in big buzzwords without understanding what he's saying OR it's an exit scam waiting to happen

After sending the funds, 18 hours have passed, but the coins have not been credited to my account
How many time i need wait?

Isn't that decision maybe because your screwed with your manual sending of funds to clients, so you lost money with previous two clients due to your own mistakes.

I never recommended this semi-scam service to anyone, and I never will, oh the contrary.

You better shut your mouth because you speak so many stupid things since you started this topic, like putting ransomware operators and legal operation in same sentence.  

Pardon me but you making written encouragement of this activity will make you a huge target of law enforcement's crosshairs later. There were mixers in the past who were shut down by the feds and their owners arrested (BTC-e, Helix, Bitcoin Fog, etc etc.) you clearly do not want to place your mixing service in that kind of position.

You're grasping at straws. Anyone can shred their files. The FBI isn't going to put a virus in a text-file. Besides, any web page you view is downloaded to your own computer by default anyway.

Another lie. You can turn one more yellow box red.

Quoted for reference. I believe privacy is a human right, but offering services to aid criminals is against the law in most countries.
It's the difference between selling guns for home defense, and encouraging bank robbers to use your guns.

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You're funny

But by not issuing a letter of guarantee, you do not give your clients the OPTION of protecting themselves against you. You take away their opportunity to make valid claims in case you mess up again. If you would provide a letter of guarantee, it's up to your clients wether or not they want to download it to protect themselfs from you, or if they don't want to download it because they don't trust you enough to download anything from your site (or because they don't want any evidence, eventough any 3 letter agency that got their hands on the letter of guarantee would also have their hands on both the sending and receiving wallet, so your clients would be caught with or without a letter of guarantee)...

By the way: if you link to a letter of guarantee instead of automatically downloading it, people could look at it online and just copy it directly, it would be just as safe as browsing any other part of your website....



But yet, if you look at your site's main page, and your first post on bitcointalk, it looks like you've actually got these funds... I think this is misdirecting your clients.
By the way, by working this way, you don't have any guarantee... What if a clients sends 250 BTC your way, but your "partner" lied to you and doesn't provide you with the necessary liquidity... What will you do in this case?



But... But... But....
Your main page said, and i quote:

So, ransomware operators are NOT criminals? Strange, in my country they are...

we are planning to increasing our mixing fee from 1-3% to 2-4% due to overwhelming demand

this will reduce our clients as we are able to serve our smaller number of clients better without raising much flags

kindly stop recommending new clients. we are happy serving our old clients ,

we appreciate clients that genuinely interested in protecting their privacy and not illegal activities , we dont wanna raise flags or get in trouble with high profile criminals

ransomware operators are encouraged to use our services for legal privacy enhancement reasons , you are very welcomed to use our services
 

We have solved all our claims

There was only one client had an issue and it has been solve

appreciate if all could remove the negative trust.

We have never scammed any clients and our mixing is considered very safe.

We are operating for almost a year and we have seen really huge amount , we are happy with the 1-3% commission rather than a one time quick exit
we dont hold coins like a exchange service to go on a billion dollar exit scam, the max we hold funds is between 5mins-12 hours and thats no where close to a billion USD at any one time for us to shut down, we prefer doing many transactions as 1-3% adds up to a very good margin and we dont pay tax to China

If you do a mixing and set as 1 hour from now for example, database has to store this info,  then if the database is breached , FEDS can link the funds sent and received with this one hour delay,
i find that very not secured.

We do manual time mixing , its not automated, no link between received funds or received funds and the receive value also is random . in court, you can actually escape because no evidence of mixing, no timing, no exact value, no trace between old and new funds. and no dangerous downloadable gurantee letter which can contain codes, or recoverable in your harddisk even if deleted using deep scan. we are trying our best to make a change in mixing.

we dont do advanced AI hybrid algorithm , we just do it manual at times we like making it safer with no traceable timing logs