Topic: [ANN] ✰ WhaleMixer.com ✰ Mixer That Dispense Freshly Mined Coins - page 8. (Read 2316 times)

Same person Rebecca Simon Teller has never written anything else and both articles are written in the same day with lot of space given for whalemixer.
What else is strange? Not a single word in this articles is written about best and well known mixing service Chipmixer
archive1, archive2

Good work, and it looks like there are no fresh coins here but just more false claims made by them.

And what to say about over 1130 less Bitcoins in one day...
one day 5279.07 Bitcoins, day after 4145.99 Bitcoins (on screen)

You are MUCH braver than I am... I'd never use my own funds to test a new mixer
Anyways.... Let's get cracking...
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=> I'm not going to analyse the inputs of tx 33e5ba37967cd58803f2590eb7654ad52e16ba47563d2585fa163f46f04c290a  any further... It's clear these inputs have NOTHING to do with freshly minted coins!!!!

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transaction 40c4f80e9d974044ab577c94b25e7094f2ea51320879c521d7e68dd2f0409580 at level #30 uses inputs from another transaction merging another 7 unspent outputs so i dropped it =>it's clear these inputs have NOTHING to do with freshly minted coins!!!!

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level #42 => transaction 0f38f1513a3a5d4e964ffa532d4c81d24d1f2ca584d2754ef03be3fa972ce0f7 uses as inputs:
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transaction 1bbd8e351dd457fd4c0b475a2bbc264d63848aa418c2227524742cec42e7d8a5 level #43 uses inputs from another transaction merging another 22 unspent outputs so i dropped it =>it's clear these inputs have NOTHING to do with freshly minted coins!!!!

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transaction 44781f270777a69f5404b83dc18981bf7f11f21b0d6c4ba100cbca21cc0da187 level #72 uses inputs from another transaction merging another 25 unspent outputs so i dropped it =>it's clear these inputs have NOTHING to do with freshly minted coins!!!!

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level #93 => transaction 4fadec75ca27f594560a84ee8b78f4fbea507227126fb286e8efca9897c73240 uses as inputs:
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transaction 7e2191784780c350b607c42fef384711976a9ea11b7b71338ccb36c4c302e1e2 level #94 uses inputs from another transaction merging another 39 unspent outputs so i dropped it =>it's clear these inputs have NOTHING to do with freshly minted coins!!!!

level #100 => transaction 4b9848889b60ce6c1311ebb8c43341a91560a20b35fc836dec926e349fd354ca

The pattern is clear:

• one unspent output used to to batch pay multiple receivers, change going to a change address.
• unspent output funding change address used as input for the next batch payment
• when the value of the unspent output funding the change address becomes to little, the wallet is topped up with ~1 BTC. Not frenshly minted coinbase rewards tough, but just a big transaction merging "dust". I tried following some transaction chains from these merging transactions, but no coinbase rewards either

OP: are you sure about your chinese and russian partners? For a 20% fee you should be???
If you promise your customers they'll receive their mixed funds in coinbase rewards, i shouldn't have to dig 100 levels deep, and still not find a single block reward...

At this point i'm tempted to call your business model debunked... If you can proof you're actually using coinbase rewards, please do so... Because i don't want to be accused of blackmailing you i don't want to see the proof tough... Find somebody else in case you want to make a valid case.

I'm aware of that, but it shouldn't say "waiting for funds", "0 BTC received" or "0 out of 4 confirmations" when I had a tx with 30+ confirmations.

Anyways, I received my coins. I decided to use two addresses expecting to receive two different transactions, but everything was sent at once on a single pay-to-many transaction. Here is the transaction for those who are curious about where the coins come from and want to verify if they are really fresh uncirculated coins which comes from miners holdings: a576790d4b0180611d9703d86538f943120ce928dafc4daf016128a66fb4730a

Some other things I noticed:

- You can write pretty much anything you want on the address field (e.g AAAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBB)
- There is no mention to fees anywhere on the website, yet I sent 0.00082702 BTC and received 0.00066796 BTC (~80%). I know you have to pay for the transaction fees, etc... but how much was the mining fees and how much was your service fee? There is no way of knowing.
- Your BTC "available fresh coins" went down from 5283.26 to 4146.24; Are you really implying that you mixed 1137.02 BTC on a single day? lol

Thank you for the kind words and advice,

We are not able to sign off blocks as they will reveal our holding account of our BTC which couls be used by blockchain forensics. We like to keep our fresh coins safe from forensics.

Yes i agree , fresh coins are more safer than mixing coins since the trace is fully detached.

Maybe the only way is getting feedback from people that has used the services and keeping a 0 negative report for a long time will eventually create the trust.

We have all the time as we are already in the biz since 2020 and we are just new in this forum. It will take time i guess to get trust from this platform.

Once again. Thank you for the good words

Hi there,

our mixing is random timed, please check after few hours as we dont set a specific timing on when you get the mixed funds, rather its random delay to enhance mixing quality.

Say you mix and set a delay, and receive funds at that set delay... a blockchain forensics can easily co relate this 2 transaction and point that this was the mixed funds.

rather our system is random delay so there is no way to co relate the sender and receiver. please check if the funds has entered after few hours . else please do contact us or update the forum .

Thank you for using our services and as appreciation on using our services , we giving you USD 15 - kindly send your BTC address
We are happy to see our users of our platform since we dont hear from them after a mix since its all anonymous.

Apparently our marketing outsource is doing their job.
We spent some on hiring marketing team and looks like they came up with this kind of strategy, and more will be coming as well.
I am impressed with their work. This actually appeared on google search ? impressive .... very impressive
Thats why we are having a higher volume on our mixing this past few days... We were wondering where this traffic were coming from. 

Hi VOD,

I requested not demand because we were accused of something without proper checking. accusing is easy but without prove is abit not fair. have you used the services to make such claims ?

we are not able to sign an address as it will compromise the quality of mixing as the address will be known to public. This effects the mixing anonymity.

 

So... what is happening that I sent $30 over 3 hours ago, the tx already has 25 confirmations and the status page shows the following?

So we got a couple of quick reviews, all written 2 days ago from one medium account about the Best Top 5 Cryptocurrency Tumbler (Reliable Bitcoin Mixer 2020/2021) and the 4 Reliable Working Bitcoin mixer/blender 2021 and guess what? A brand new and lesser known Whalemixer is among them. Fishy.

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whalemixer1

There are many mixers that bitcointalk members have used and reviewed (as I have done myself).  The above members are very knowledgeable, and you should consider listening to them.  There have been a lot of BTC mixer scams over these many years since I joined this forum.

Yes!  A service to provide coins direct from miners could be very popular.  Clean coins at a good price, oh yeah.

Because of the many, many problems with scammers, trust needs to be earned here.  The above suggestions are good ones.  It would not cost you much to offer some special deals or signed messages, perhaps by Private Message to some of the above.  LeGaulois, Vod, dkbit98 and mocacinno are all trusted members here; ALL of whom I have learned from.

Like I said, your service could become very popular, but you have to make the first moves to begin to gain trust here.  If you do it right (do what you promise, show some transparency, etc.), your service could make you a lot of money and make your customers happy.

"Your move, sirs."

As I mentioned in PM when you demanded I remove your negative trust, have one of your partners sign an address holding at least 10btc.  If they refuse, you are being scammed and if you refuse, you are the scammer.


Or sign that one...

1. We cant prove ownership since it will flaw our security of the mixing since the sending address will be revealed. We have no idea who is watching and following this post.
2. We are capable of handling the amount stated as we are able to get this from our mining partners. This amount of coins are available. The info on the website is as it is.
3. There is a better way to ask for testing a service , not by accusing and demand for money like in a hostage negotiation.

Anyone is free to use any services offered. Would you only use one mixer to ensure your trails has been covered from leaks ? I dont have the stats but i am  sure many users uses more than one mixer to efficiently cover their trails especially when its sensitive mixing.

Whats better ? a mixer or a service that offers fresh coins ? 

Who exactly are your partners (just don't tell me it's chinese and russian miners) and how do you know how much of their coins is available?


Lets summarize:

- You can't prove ownership of a singe bitcoin.
- You make false statements for available coins.
- You are not willing to spend a single satoshi for testing with members in bitcointalk forum.

I don't think that is the right way to gain reputation and trust from community, but you can do as you like.
Maybe you need to rephrase what is written on your website, and meanwhile people will use proven mixing services like Chipmixer or wasabi wallet.

Now, look at it from our perspective: you're asking us to risk $25 on your mixer, spend $3-$4 in tx fees, pay a 1%-3% fee to you, end up with a small unspent output we'd have to remix afterwards since you're brand new and i personally wouldn't trust you to keep my transactions private (yet)... And we'll have to make this effort, pay these fees and risk our funds to give you a free review?

Sorry, but that's not how it works...

I take it you won't take my proposal... That's fine, no problem...

I think you have misunderstood the statement on our website. We are able to mix this amount based on what we and our partners hold as we can purchase BTC to BTC plus a service fee from our miners . We dont actually mix coins rather exchange from our miners. The miners from china are willing to sell us at 0.88% and Russia at 1% . So we charge 1% - 2.99% the remaining is our profit.

Anyone is free to test our service and if they find any flaws or other issues, kindly post your good or bad experiences. Its only USD25 , we spent more to develop this system than to just make a one off USD25 and a bad rating. Think about it. We are not gonna tarnish our business which makes a good 1%-2.99% on every mix over a USD 25

Our mixing volume has definitely increased past few days, we were operational since 2020 and we have ramped up our marketing efforts this past week. We not sure if its due to this forum or our other marketing channels. Anyways would like to thank all our clients from where every they came from.

Anyone is free to test our service and if they find any flaws or other issues, kindly post your good or bad experiences. Its only USD25 , we spent more to develop this system than to just make a one off USD25 and a bad rating. Think about it. We are not gonna tarnish our business which makes a good 1%-2.99% on every mix over a USD 25

However do also note that the transaction fee for bitcoin is high at the moment ~4-6 USD / address so the receiving amount could be effected by this fees. We do miss those days where is was in cents . You can check the blockchain to see how much we paid for the transaction fee and please dont misunderstand that we charge more than 1-2.99%

So the statement on your site is false? You don't have >5000 BTC, you just claim to have the option to buy >5000 BTC and claim to hold ~50 BTC but are not willing to prove said statement.
Just an idear, but why don't you give a couple longtime forum members a couple bucks to test out your service, let them check if the funds they receive from your service is indeed coming from a coinbase reward. I'd be willing to do this AND give you back whatever output i get from your service (minus mixing and transaction fees). For me it's not a way to make some money, but rather a way to verify your claims without risking my own funds...

by the way, it's completely up to you if you take me up on my offer or not... No pressure... Just an easy way to prove part of your claims...

We were just testing the system, we were not sure if this appears on all registed accounts or only on few. We are new on this forum . We were asked to deposit BTC to activate the account . We were alittle puzzled hence we tried re registering to check if this apears on all our account.

We are partnered with miners from Russia and china, our mixer does not personally hold this amount. We hold around 50 BTC in total reserve of mined coins for this . However we are able to buy this reserved amount for a small fee from your partners.

This coins are not mined today , rather its uncirculated coins from over time.

What we are offering is fresh uncirculated coins which comes from miners holdings.

We will not be able to proof of holding or provide blockchain balance as this will effect the security for our clients as we do not know who is listening.

I hope this clears