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May 29, 2018, 06:55:30 PM
Hi,

I also have a good number of refferal (start early + 10k twitter account)

Even if i'm full of token, i hesitate to KYC for many reasons, already cited by some people i suppose :

- Near 0 communication during ICO (or more exactly ICOs)
- Many red flag in communiction, deadlines etc ... give me as much as you earn, i probably can do a DEX myself (or hire a good team)
- Change aggrement on token many time
- still not sure you exist

Just for theses reasons i don't want to  KYC even if i have probably for few thousand $ (in theory ofc)
And you are telling me people will KYC for 5$? No they don't, you are one of the oldest airdrop and you break confidence many times, they will not even try your exchange

Many of the best coin/token have airdropped in early day to have both marketing and GOOD confidence with people. That's how it works. You can't take the good part and throw the bad one

Yes some people might sell, so let them sell, buy back at low price and burn. Most airdropper (for 5$) are holder and will use exchange on the long run if they have a positive image of you.


Myself, i didn't invest, i'm a trader, i will not trade on wcex or recommand it anytime soon. And you should think about it you are missing a important point.



Let make a suggestion: other way to verify people is mesuring their activity : trade, connection, deposit ect...

So time to question now : how many time me and my refferals do we have to KYC?
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May 29, 2018, 06:46:45 PM
They deserve it because WCX promised those "precious tokens".

Quality is meaningless, here. The requirement was email verification. Not KYC.
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May 29, 2018, 05:51:24 PM
@wcxofficial, my apologies for not responding sooner.

I have one more question, which I would appreciate being answered.

Why is KYC not a requirement to trade on your platform, if it is required in order to claim referral link tokens?

I would greatly appreciate you highlighting the difference(s) there.
It certainly appears that if it was required in one instance, it would be a requirement for the other as well.
Its really bullshit, and your are just lying scammers.
You should ask KYC before the start of referral bounty, not after the end of campain.
Why you are changing rules? If you scammed the referrals, after you can scam investors easy.
I have near 500 referred people and only few of them will send KYC.

 i will ask all those 500 people to post that your project is a SCAM, so you can not scam other people in future.

"If you referred real people.. they will kyc." otherwise your referrals are useless and just a tax on the token supply..

Are you dumb? Do you not have a head to think like normal people? Autism perhaps?
Do you really believe what you just said? Do you think the hundreds of referred "real people" will just be willing to give their IDs and waste their time for 500XT?..
It is honestly easier to get fake and self made accounts verified than real ones.


I mean if the people you referred won't even KYC or use the exchange, what use are they. Why do you deserve to get precious tokens for referring useless / inactive users?
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May 29, 2018, 04:46:25 PM
@wcxofficial, my apologies for not responding sooner.

I have one more question, which I would appreciate being answered.

Why is KYC not a requirement to trade on your platform, if it is required in order to claim referral link tokens?

I would greatly appreciate you highlighting the difference(s) there.
It certainly appears that if it was required in one instance, it would be a requirement for the other as well.
Its really bullshit, and your are just lying scammers.
You should ask KYC before the start of referral bounty, not after the end of campain.
Why you are changing rules? If you scammed the referrals, after you can scam investors easy.
I have near 500 referred people and only few of them will send KYC.

 i will ask all those 500 people to post that your project is a SCAM, so you can not scam other people in future.

"If you referred real people.. they will kyc." otherwise your referrals are useless and just a tax on the token supply..

Are you dumb? Do you not have a head to think like normal people? Autism perhaps?
Do you really believe what you just said? Do you think the hundreds of referred "real people" will just be willing to give their IDs and waste their time for 500XT?..
It is honestly easier to get fake and self made accounts verified than real ones.
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May 29, 2018, 04:19:03 PM
No.

Not what I said.

Either show me, (bring a screenshot or a link), of where they said that referrals needed to do more than verify email, or acknowledge that WCX is breaking their word.

It doesn't matter what is "logical". WCX made a promise.
Can you demonstrate that they put that loophole in place at the start of all of this?

Yes or no. If yes, link proof.

I don't know if the page is still up, you'll have to ask them. Or use the wayback machine maybe it's in the internet archive. I'm just saying what I remember seeing.
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May 29, 2018, 03:59:29 PM
No.

Not what I said.

Either show me, (bring a screenshot or a link), of where they said that referrals needed to do more than verify email, or acknowledge that WCX is breaking their word.

It doesn't matter what is "logical". WCX made a promise.
Can you demonstrate that they put that loophole in place at the start of all of this?

Yes or no. If yes, link proof.
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May 29, 2018, 03:26:52 PM
@hamnchess. Listen. Closely.
You want reasonable arguments? Here's one.

It doesn't matter whether or not referred users *can* do KYC.
That was *not* part of the original agreement.

Both parties need to follow the *original* agreement, right?

I know you'll just repeat your talking points. "It's easy". "If they're real, they can do it", etc. etc...

But answer me the main point, and the one you keep avoiding. Why shouldn't WCX have to hold up to their end of the agreement?
(You don't have to think it is a good agreement. You just have to acknowledge that promises matter, and should be kept.)


Either show me where it was stated otherwise, or stop telling people that they have to conform to your point of view.

I'm pretty sure it was. Idk about you- I bought presale and they had a page with information about the token etc. I remember it saying something about ID verification for referrals and banned countries.

In any case I think it's the logical approach. Why would they give you tokens for referring people who aren't active or real?

It would be a waste of tokens IMO and pretty bad for all those who bought XT and are buying XT because it would just dilute the supply. XT sales are already really close to the 1 billion maximum cap if you take into account the presale.
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May 29, 2018, 11:23:58 AM
@hamnchess. Listen. Closely.
You want reasonable arguments? Here's one.

It doesn't matter whether or not referred users *can* do KYC.
That was *not* part of the original agreement.

Both parties need to follow the *original* agreement, right?

I know you'll just repeat your talking points. "It's easy". "If they're real, they can do it", etc. etc...

But answer me the main point, and the one you keep avoiding. Why shouldn't WCX have to hold up to their end of the agreement?
(You don't have to think it is a good agreement. You just have to acknowledge that promises matter, and should be kept.)


Either show me where it was stated otherwise, or stop telling people that they have to conform to your point of view.
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May 29, 2018, 11:14:57 AM
all my referred people are real.

Then they can KYC...

dont try to talk with hamnchess, he is suc*** dev so hard, just another idiot trying to fool people and make you buy this project. everything is red here, just follow your brain and ignore hamcheese

I'm just an investor bro. I don't know why you're trolling so hard. I don't give a damn if you buy or not. I'm just giving reasonable arguments.

Also, stop trying to say or imply that "this project is a scam". You're making a fool out of yourself.
sr. member
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May 29, 2018, 01:32:32 AM
dont try to talk with hamnchess, he is suc*** dev so hard, just another idiot trying to fool people and make you buy this project. everything is red here, just follow your brain and ignore hamcheese
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May 29, 2018, 01:27:44 AM
all my referred people are real.
member
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May 29, 2018, 01:13:18 AM
Take it easy mate. They didn't scam anyone.

You were trying to scam by referring fake people. It makes no sense to give you X tokens. Get out of here.
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May 28, 2018, 11:53:45 PM

If your referrals don't verify they are real people, they are not useful. Why do you deserve XT, which is a limited supply token and which is already being over bought beyond the maximum cap, if you didn't refer real people?
They are real people. Wcex told- we pay 5$ in tokens for registration and email verification, right?
So shouldn't they write - we pay 5$ in tokens only for people who verify email, id , send KYC and buy tokens ...instead?
No one would participate than...

but no...they wrote 800 000 registrations, great project....and after didnt pay to promoters...SO THEY SCAMMED THEM. AND AFTER CAN SCAM INVESTORS EASILY BECAUSE ALREADY SHOWEN YOURELVES AS LIARS.


i will agree with that new rules if WCEX will write on website and email everyone...
we are really sorry for lying ...there was 800 000 registrations...but after we decide that only 10 000 peoples passed KYC,
we have manipulated with numbers to cheat on both referral system - scamming bounty people and not paying them,
and cheating on investors - telling them that we have 800 000 registrations...but they all were bad and shit accounts ( as u told before)
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May 28, 2018, 07:42:41 PM


I and most people do not trust Wcx anymore. Dirty marketing program. Change rules to deceive marketing participants. continue to introduce the program to entice more participants to cheat more people!

Just leave. WCX should not be giving you any tokens for referring fake people. Very few available tokens left at this point. They are doing the right thing.
newbie
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May 28, 2018, 07:42:16 PM
From the beginning they did not retain the prestige of the project itself.
Constantly changing rules and timing of projects.
They have no respect for the user
This is definitely a phishing project
member
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May 28, 2018, 03:42:33 PM
Referrals ONLY need to do what they were asked to do in the beggining of referral bounty program. And nothing more.
ALL other things asked = cheating on people, who participated in wcx promotion

If your referrals don't verify they are real people, they are not useful. Why do you deserve XT, which is a limited supply token and which is already being over bought beyond the maximum cap, if you didn't refer real people?
newbie
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May 28, 2018, 03:36:53 PM
Referrals ONLY need to do what they were asked to do in the beggining of referral bounty program. And nothing more.
ALL other things asked = cheating on people, who participated in wcx promotion
member
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May 28, 2018, 03:20:44 PM
@shaw1
I'm sorry if I came across as vulgar, I was just trying to make a logical argument. It is a logical argument. There is no way at this point this project can be a scam.

Yes you can always say for ANY project, "oh maybe this ends up being a scam". This is what has been happening on this thread. Just look at the threads for Coinbase, bitfinex, etc etc and all the reviews and scam accusations. Coinbase has probably 1 star review average, and yet they are a 10 billion dollar company. people like to talk.

Every time WCX makes a release or product, people say, "oh oh but what about this, this could be a scam!", ok at what point does it not be a scam? you need ceo to get on his knees and give you a blowie?

Now whether you agree with their referral policy or not, is another story... personally I don't think referrals need to purchase, they just need to verify ID. I did verify my ID, it took a few days, and it worked fine.
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May 28, 2018, 03:06:38 PM
@hamnchess, I would politely request that you stop this "reverse trolling" of sorts, that you are doing.

You may not believe that this ICO is a scam. That is your right to believe that, personally.
Others do not have to share those beliefs.

You say if people referred "spam and shit people", you aren't allowed to complain.
Now hold on a second. The referrals were not required to make a purchase. They were required to verify their email. That is the issue here.
The change in the rules, not the quality of the people signing up.

Just because the exchange works, doesn't mean WCX has not deceived all of the people creating referrals.
Just because the CEO is smart and intelligent doesn't make WCX honest, regarding the policy change.
Just because purchasing XT works like a charm doesn't mean that WCX did not change the rules half way through the game.
Just because KYC is easy doesn't mean that it was specified as required at the start of the ICO.
Just because support answers quickly doesn't mean that WCX has acted honestly regarding referrals.
Just because the telegram channel is "transparent" doesn't mean that the rules weren't changed after everyone put in all the work.

Here is these peoples' argument. (If I may be so bold as to speak for others).
It isn't right, nor fair, to change a contract once one side is done with their obligation. None of the referrers got a say in the new policy. So they did all of the marketing work for WCX, and now that the rules have changed, are going to get only a fraction of what they were originally promised.

You come in here calling those who disagree with you "idiots", and "beggars". That is not polite discourse, and is doing neither you, nor WCX any help.

As to your secondary questions:
They might be continuing to work because they are STILL seeking more money for their ICO.
Their releasing a fully functional exchange has nothing to do with their integrity on the aspect of referrals.
How could it be a scam? Plenty of fully functional exchanges ended up scamming. Does Mt Gox ring a bell?

Just because people do not share your view of a certain ICO does not make them stupid, beggars, or uninformed.
I believe that the measure was put into place solely for the purpose of limiting the amount that WCX has to pay out. Which is not as per the original agreement.

You are welcome to disagree, but let's keep the conversation somewhat civil. Neither side looks good when they resort to vulgarity, or
 namecalling, regardless of how disappointed they are.
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May 28, 2018, 03:01:15 PM
The agrument is "Invite person and get tokens" in marketing advertising.
I invited real people not bots. WCEX used number of registrations for promotion and inviting people to buy tokens
Thats enought.

If wcex is changing rules means after they can do the same with investors.
I think it is clear for everyone
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