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Topic: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com - page 143. (Read 554384 times)

sr. member
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Higher than usual rejects today should be fixed now. I made some changes earlier today which unfortunately introduced a bug. It's fixed now.

Also I fixed some other issues which were causing some miners to disconnect if they didn't get jobs often enough. Current jobs are rebroadcasted now quit often so that your miners won't think that the connection to the pool is stale. Previously some miners wasted time to disconnect and reconnect if they didn't hear from the pool. It wasn't affecting lot of miners, but if your miners were doing this, your hashrate should increase.

I am still at 30% rejected? I resetarted my miners even...
hero member
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Higher than usual rejects today should be fixed now. I made some changes earlier today which unfortunately introduced a bug. It's fixed now.

Also I fixed some other issues which were causing some miners to disconnect if they didn't get jobs often enough. Current jobs are rebroadcasted now quit often so that your miners won't think that the connection to the pool is stale. Previously some miners wasted time to disconnect and reconnect if they didn't hear from the pool. It wasn't affecting lot of miners, but if your miners were doing this, your hashrate should increase.
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Guys i'm at 15% Rejected for a long time on EU server.

Terk? anyone?

Can you please not host the image on a NSFW site, some of us browse at work.

oops! sorry for that random boner.
you could have atleast help
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Guys i'm at 15% Rejected for a long time on EU server.

Terk? anyone?

Can you please not host the image on a NSFW site, some of us browse at work.
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Guys i'm at 15% Rejected for a long time on EU server.

Terk? anyone?
hero member
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I got my Gridseed miners on Tuesday. 20 of them.  I was able to get only 10 up and running because of one faulty usb hub.

I started mining on this pool because of a review I came about on a blog.  I checked the site out and I liked the setup and the stats it had on it.

so for a whole day, I mined 3.6 MH/s on the NY server.

The next day, I pointed the other 3.6 MH/s....

I noticed that my reject rate was very high!! I was always getting 20-30-60+++% rejection.  I'm new to all this, but I'm assuming that the rejection affects my income.

Today, I pointed to the sf server to try it out.  Rejection was over 100%  more like 130+

back to the ny server....same thing....

I did read that others complaining about the rejection rate on the pool too.  And the reply they got is to wait for an hour or 2 before you see it stabilizing.  I tell you, that when I pointed my miners to scryptguild, the rejection rate was 1-5% within few minutes and stayed at that rate.

I like the site like I said.  And I would like to find a pool to stick with and not jump around.  I tried wafflepool, but I realized it gets ddos from time to time and its a very simple setup they have.

so, if these issues are resolved, payments and rejects.. then I see no other better pool to be a part of.  But PLEASE sort these things out because if we don't see a consistency in payments, and mining, then people like me will look elsewhere even though your pool has a nice setup.

How do you get over 130% rejects??  Shocked
I believe Terk is working on it.
newbie
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I'm afraid this is a bug which I introduced earlier today when changing something in the pool software. I deployed a change helping with some disconnection issues thick some small percent of miners had, but it turns out the change had also a negative side effect.

I'm working on solving this right now and I expect to deploy a fix within an hour.

Ok.  Thanks for the quick response.  Bugs happen.
member
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I got my Gridseed miners on Tuesday. 20 of them.  I was able to get only 10 up and running because of one faulty usb hub.

I started mining on this pool because of a review I came about on a blog.  I checked the site out and I liked the setup and the stats it had on it.

so for a whole day, I mined 3.6 MH/s on the NY server.

The next day, I pointed the other 3.6 MH/s....

I noticed that my reject rate was very high!! I was always getting 20-30-60+++% rejection.  I'm new to all this, but I'm assuming that the rejection affects my income.

Today, I pointed to the sf server to try it out.  Rejection was over 100%  more like 130+

back to the ny server....same thing....

I did read that others complaining about the rejection rate on the pool too.  And the reply they got is to wait for an hour or 2 before you see it stabilizing.  I tell you, that when I pointed my miners to scryptguild, the rejection rate was 1-5% within few minutes and stayed at that rate.

I like the site like I said.  And I would like to find a pool to stick with and not jump around.  I tried wafflepool, but I realized it gets ddos from time to time and its a very simple setup they have.

so, if these issues are resolved, payments and rejects.. then I see no other better pool to be a part of.  But PLEASE sort these things out because if we don't see a consistency in payments, and mining, then people like me will look elsewhere even though your pool has a nice setup.

Hmm, I have Gridseeds as well and as you can see I'm getting mimimal rejections except for the last couple of hours:

http://clevermining.com/users/1NkShHNVTsMFwUTi3nXvgN3GnaT33NEBra

Maybe it's an issue with your configuration,  how are you controlling your Gridseed and what miner software are you running?
sr. member
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I got my Gridseed miners on Tuesday. 20 of them.  I was able to get only 10 up and running because of one faulty usb hub.

I started mining on this pool because of a review I came about on a blog.  I checked the site out and I liked the setup and the stats it had on it.

so for a whole day, I mined 3.6 MH/s on the NY server.

The next day, I pointed the other 3.6 MH/s....

I noticed that my reject rate was very high!! I was always getting 20-30-60+++% rejection.  I'm new to all this, but I'm assuming that the rejection affects my income.

Today, I pointed to the sf server to try it out.  Rejection was over 100%  more like 130+

back to the ny server....same thing....

I did read that others complaining about the rejection rate on the pool too.  And the reply they got is to wait for an hour or 2 before you see it stabilizing.  I tell you, that when I pointed my miners to scryptguild, the rejection rate was 1-5% within few minutes and stayed at that rate.

I like the site like I said.  And I would like to find a pool to stick with and not jump around.  I tried wafflepool, but I realized it gets ddos from time to time and its a very simple setup they have.

so, if these issues are resolved, payments and rejects.. then I see no other better pool to be a part of.  But PLEASE sort these things out because if we don't see a consistency in payments, and mining, then people like me will look elsewhere even though your pool has a nice setup.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
I've noticed a huge increase in duplicate/rejected shares over the last couple of hours.  I was mining happily before that so I don't think it's a miner setup issue.  Anybody else seeing high rejects?  I'm getting 60+%

I'm afraid this is a bug which I introduced earlier today when changing something in the pool software. I deployed a change helping with some disconnection issues thick some small percent of miners had, but it turns out the change had also a negative side effect.

I'm working on solving this right now and I expect to deploy a fix within an hour.

 Sad damit
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[quote author=MinorError link=topic=448649.msg5935940#msg5935940 date=1395945673

Just out of curiosity...are you guys still mining GPU? I literally just put together my first righ a month or so ago, so I was really late to the party. The catch is, I have free electricity....so I was contemplating throwing another GPU in and getting about 500khash extra for around $400, but was wondering if that is worth the investment...I mean free electric is great, but not if the KnC Titan or whatever the hell it is comes out drives the difficulty so high that any GPU is screwed.
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500KH/s for 400$? That sounds extremely expensive. For 400$ you can get 4 used 6950s and get 1800KH/s
hero member
Activity: 616
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I've noticed a huge increase in duplicate/rejected shares over the last couple of hours.  I was mining happily before that so I don't think it's a miner setup issue.  Anybody else seeing high rejects?  I'm getting 60+%

I'm afraid this is a bug which I introduced earlier today when changing something in the pool software. I deployed a change helping with some disconnection issues thick some small percent of miners had, but it turns out the change had also a negative side effect.

I'm working on solving this right now and I expect to deploy a fix within an hour.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
Just out of curiosity...are you guys still mining GPU? I literally just put together my first righ a month or so ago, so I was really late to the party. The catch is, I have free electricity....so I was contemplating throwing another GPU in and getting about 500khash extra for around $400, but was wondering if that is worth the investment...I mean free electric is great, but not if the KnC Titan or whatever the hell it is comes out drives the difficulty so high that any GPU is screwed.

First of all, 500 khash for $400 is a terrible rate, you're buying the wrong GPU in that case.
The KnC is advertised to be done Q2 or Q3, so expect Q3, which will be quite a while.

But basically, don't listen to advice about this from a stranger on the forums who probably has financial gain in giving bad advice.
Instead just run the numbers. Look at current profits per mhash and project how long it takes to get ROI.
Then run the numbers again with a worst case scenario by projecting the downwards profit trend from the past few weeks into the next few months.

Personally, even at free electricity, the ROI is probably too long to bet on what currently seems a consistent downwards trend of profitability.
But don't take my advice, run the numbers yourself, estimate possible profit and then only buy when those numbers look good to you.
hero member
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I stopped mining at this address since the 14th of March. The account still has un-exchanged that is holding up my payout.

http://www.clevermining.com/users/1A5WnmPbYZkEBzDhaiia6Z8Ze9FFNtm1hT

Please investigate.

Thanks!

Are you seriously asking the pool operator to investigate just over USD$1 of bitcoin that is held up in your account?  Simply wait until the weekend when the system automatically pays out amounts under 0.01 BTC and let him tend to more important matters.  If it does not arrive over the weekend, then contact Terk.

The unexchanged in your account is worth less that USD$0.02 -- between one and two cents!


Its not holding out his payout either, he just didnt even bother reading main page nor faq nor anything.

Guys, why so harsh! 2 points:

1. Stopped using that account since March 14th... are coins really taking that long to exchange?
2. It's almost 2 weeks now, 1 weekend has already passed.

I just thought I'd bring it up in case others are having issues with coins being stuck in unexchanged for 2 weeks. I didn't say it was a pressing matter I am sure Turk has other things that are more pressing.

Peace!

Coins usually are exchanged automatically within hours or couple days (depending on the coin). We have some unexchanged balances from past days though as can be seen here: http://www.clevermining.com/profits/30-days

This is something requiring my manual investigation but I didn't have time for that having my hands full with other more urgent issues with the pool. These are really near-dust amounts so I didn't give much priority to it.

All of these balances are for some small/niche coins which we are no longer mining. I will be checking this manually when I find time.
If the coins are there (because they can be remains of some nasty/long forks which these smaller coins used to have and some of these balances might be actually orphaned), they will be exchanged and credited to users as always, even if it's only $0.02, but when it's only $0.02 then I don't give too much priority to checking it and this is why it is waiting so long to be resolved.
newbie
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Looking at the stats from Poolpicker

http://poolpicker.eu/

It appears profitability for Clever and their colleagues have gone down by half from the end of Feb to the end of March. Can we expect the same decrease by the end of April from where we're at now?

So around the end of February profits were pretty steady at .01/Mhash, now they're steady at around .005/Mhash....so by the end of April are we looking at .0025?

Not picking on Terk here, all the pools have had the same decrease, but just curios.
I'm not sure. By some rough math, around 0.003 BTC/Mhash/day is when a lot of people will stop breaking even on electricity costs when running GPUs and electricity higher than 0.15c/kWH. I think we will see a lot of hash power drop around the barrier which should stabilize it for a bit. I'm just guessing though.

I don't expect the hashrate to drop. While GPU miners might drop out, there's a very large amount of gridseed units hitting the market.
These have a much lower power requirement and will happily keep on crunching through the lower profitability.

Even without ROI, these units will be kept running by someone as long as they're more profitable than the power they consume.
That is true, for me the Gridseeds will remain profitable all the way until 0.0001 BTC/MHs/day. Maybe that will be the new lower limit. I still think there is a large amount of GPU miners, especially in Europe that will stop mining very soon and the Gridseeds coming in won't replace all that hash rate quickly.

Just out of curiosity...are you guys still mining GPU? I literally just put together my first righ a month or so ago, so I was really late to the party. The catch is, I have free electricity....so I was contemplating throwing another GPU in and getting about 500khash extra for around $400, but was wondering if that is worth the investment...I mean free electric is great, but not if the KnC Titan or whatever the hell it is comes out drives the difficulty so high that any GPU is screwed.
newbie
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I've noticed a huge increase in duplicate/rejected shares over the last couple of hours.  I was mining happily before that so I don't think it's a miner setup issue.  Anybody else seeing high rejects?  I'm getting 60+%
member
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Looking at the stats from Poolpicker

http://poolpicker.eu/

It appears profitability for Clever and their colleagues have gone down by half from the end of Feb to the end of March. Can we expect the same decrease by the end of April from where we're at now?

So around the end of February profits were pretty steady at .01/Mhash, now they're steady at around .005/Mhash....so by the end of April are we looking at .0025?

Not picking on Terk here, all the pools have had the same decrease, but just curios.
I'm not sure. By some rough math, around 0.003 BTC/Mhash/day is when a lot of people will stop breaking even on electricity costs when running GPUs and electricity higher than 0.15c/kWH. I think we will see a lot of hash power drop around the barrier which should stabilize it for a bit. I'm just guessing though.

I don't expect the hashrate to drop. While GPU miners might drop out, there's a very large amount of gridseed units hitting the market.
These have a much lower power requirement and will happily keep on crunching through the lower profitability.

Even without ROI, these units will be kept running by someone as long as they're more profitable than the power they consume.
That is true, for me the Gridseeds will remain profitable all the way until 0.0001 BTC/MHs/day. Maybe that will be the new lower limit. I still think there is a large amount of GPU miners, especially in Europe that will stop mining very soon and the Gridseeds coming in won't replace all that hash rate quickly.
sr. member
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That 10 gh whale just lost 6 gh and prolly some little whales lost gh.
newbie
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Massive drop is pool speed!! Where's everyone going?
full member
Activity: 154
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Looking at the stats from Poolpicker

http://poolpicker.eu/

It appears profitability for Clever and their colleagues have gone down by half from the end of Feb to the end of March. Can we expect the same decrease by the end of April from where we're at now?

So around the end of February profits were pretty steady at .01/Mhash, now they're steady at around .005/Mhash....so by the end of April are we looking at .0025?

Not picking on Terk here, all the pools have had the same decrease, but just curios.
I'm not sure. By some rough math, around 0.003 BTC/Mhash/day is when a lot of people will stop breaking even on electricity costs when running GPUs and electricity higher than 0.15c/kWH. I think we will see a lot of hash power drop around the barrier which should stabilize it for a bit. I'm just guessing though.

I don't expect the hashrate to drop. While GPU miners might drop out, there's a very large amount of gridseed units hitting the market.
These have a much lower power requirement and will happily keep on crunching through the lower profitability.

Even without ROI, these units will be kept running by someone as long as they're more profitable than the power they consume.
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