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Topic: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com - page 197. (Read 554401 times)

newbie
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n00b question: when checking rejects in cgminer do you look at the R value at the top next to your average overall hashrate? or the R value next to the GPU? because in my case these numbers are drastically different (50% reject vs 2%)

I assume its the per card rate, but is there a reason why I'm getting 50% in the top number?
member
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the fact you impose arbitrary standards on this pool also seems to have glossed by your attention.  

I'm failing to see how it's arbitrary to say that the vast majority of pools charge 1% or less.  It's quite objective, and in no part arbitrary.

argumentum ad populum.  the vast majority of people on earth don't know what a bitcoin is.  ergo, bitcoin is worthless?

It's quite objective, and in no part arbitrary.

because why?  because you've declared it objective? where's your data? it's your fucking opinion that 2% is too high, you cheapskate.

Lets use an analogy then.  You can go to any number of online financial brokerages (Etrade and the like) and pay $10 a trade.  You can go to a financial advisor to do the same thing and provide you some advice while he's at it for $25 a trade.  When you're trading $5000 worth of securities at a time, it seems like a pittance either way, but the latter is still a LOT more expensive, relatively speaking.

so by your standard, a 0% pool should be best? sometimes you get what you pay for.  

pool operators should aim for sustainability, not a race to the bottom for pool fees.  

Just...wow.  You need a lot of work on reading comprehension.  Please quote the one place where I said 2% is "too high".   I guess you must've missed:

I'm not saying it's expensive, but to call it virtually free is just flat wrong.  2% isn't much overall, but perspective and opportunity cost need to play a role in where to point your hashes to.

Secondly, how are you too fucking stupid to understand what "industry standard" is?  It's *objective* because it's very easy to prove, not because I've declared it so.  You want data?  Here's some:

http://www.doktorrf.com/dogecoin/pools.html

It's a trivial exercise to look at that site and say that exactly 9 of the >55 pools on the list that charge anything more than 1%.  In point of fact, *26* of them charge nothing.  This list could very easily be assumed to be representative of the entire mining pool community, since many/most of the pools listed there host other coin pools as well.  

The FACT is that this pool charges more than most.  I'm not saying that it's too expensive.  In fact I've said the opposite.  Get the fuck off my back.


hero member
Activity: 826
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Terk, I just want to say thank you for your incredible hard work!! My rejects were cut in half with the launch of the new regional servers. I love your pool, and since I found it I have been mining here. Keep up the good work! Smiley
legendary
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Merit: 1005
ASIC Wannabe
I went from 5-8% rejected in the last few hours to suddenly having a ~25% reject rate over the last hour.

anybody else have this? Its almost entirely "rejected untracked stratum share" warnings and not actually rejects associated with any specific GPU

This is some kind of wrong interpretation of messages sent by the pool by cgminer/sgminer and they probably aren't really rejected. The numbers next to your GPUs are correct.

okay - thanks for the quick response. In the last 25min Ive had an average of 25% reject rate according to the top row (not the GPU stats) of cgminer and in cgwatcher

looks like my hashrate at the pool is dead-on though and zero reject rate now.... so if thats the real stats then I am very happy.
 
2.074 Mhash/s across a quad-270X setup (2 cards are reading just under 525khash!

hero member
Activity: 616
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I will be manually handling high unexchanged balances and address corrections first thing tomorrow morning. I'm sorry for the delay.
hero member
Activity: 616
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I went from 5-8% rejected in the last few hours to suddenly having a ~25% reject rate over the last hour.

anybody else have this? Its almost entirely "rejected untracked stratum share" warnings and not actually rejects associated with any specific GPU

This is some kind of wrong interpretation of messages sent by the pool by cgminer/sgminer and they probably aren't really rejected. The numbers next to your GPUs are correct.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1005
ASIC Wannabe
I went from 5-8% rejected in the last few hours to suddenly having a ~25% reject rate over the last hour.

anybody else have this? Its almost entirely "rejected untracked stratum share" warnings and not actually rejects associated with any specific GPU
member
Activity: 78
Merit: 10
Any ETA on when people that need accounts merged will be fixed?  I've kept mining since I like this pool, but my stashed bitcoins is getting up there (well for my meager hash-power).  No pressure just curious for a word.

[2]

no payouts yet for me too.

what is the point of mining if you cant get paid ?
You are a right self-entitled cunt.
First you say clevermining is freezing payouts, when in fact YOU made a mistake, not once do you then acknowledge or even say sorry for false accusations. Then you go on twitter and complain about the fact that it hasn't been fixed yet, be patient, you were the one that fucked up!
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
Just a comment about profitability. Remember that its not just determined by how well other altcoin are performing against LTC but it also highly depends on the LTC/BTC exchange rate. We get paid in BTC not LTC after all. On march 3 the exchange rate was .0205.  Today its .02529.  Thats a 23% decrease in profits right there! Also the prices of both LTC and BTC have increased in the past few days. If the graphs displayed were in $/MH/day things would nearly look so bad.

That's a more than fair observation, to which my answer is:

Can we be paid in LTC if we choose please? I asked this about 40 pages ago on this thread and was told "maybe". Personally, I would like to stock up on LTC, and while I can trade BTC to it, I prefer not to pay the fees if I can avoid it - I am a very small miner (700 KHash) and this matters to me.

Rit.

EDIT: And yes I know I would receive the same payout Smiley I just would like to HODL LTC at the moment.



hoLD

same here

I meant what I said and I said what I meant!

HODL!!!!!
full member
Activity: 208
Merit: 100
Singapore server is online: stratum+tcp://asia.clevermining.com:3333

Thank you, switched to it successfully.
member
Activity: 120
Merit: 10
Singapore server is online: stratum+tcp://asia.clevermining.com:3333

any plans for an useast server ? please Smiley

Please!  +1
hero member
Activity: 676
Merit: 500
Just a comment about profitability. Remember that its not just determined by how well other altcoin are performing against LTC but it also highly depends on the LTC/BTC exchange rate. We get paid in BTC not LTC after all. On march 3 the exchange rate was .0205.  Today its .02529.  Thats a 23% decrease in profits right there! Also the prices of both LTC and BTC have increased in the past few days. If the graphs displayed were in $/MH/day things would nearly look so bad.

That's a more than fair observation, to which my answer is:

Can we be paid in LTC if we choose please? I asked this about 40 pages ago on this thread and was told "maybe". Personally, I would like to stock up on LTC, and while I can trade BTC to it, I prefer not to pay the fees if I can avoid it - I am a very small miner (700 KHash) and this matters to me.

Rit.

EDIT: And yes I know I would receive the same payout Smiley I just would like to HODL LTC at the moment.



hoLD

same here
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
Just a comment about profitability. Remember that its not just determined by how well other altcoin are performing against LTC but it also highly depends on the LTC/BTC exchange rate. We get paid in BTC not LTC after all. On march 3 the exchange rate was .0205.  Today its .02529.  Thats a 23% decrease in profits right there! Also the prices of both LTC and BTC have increased in the past few days. If the graphs displayed were in $/MH/day things would nearly look so bad.

That's a more than fair observation, to which my answer is:

Can we be paid in LTC if we choose please? I asked this about 40 pages ago on this thread and was told "maybe". Personally, I would like to stock up on LTC, and while I can trade BTC to it, I prefer not to pay the fees if I can avoid it - I am a very small miner (700 KHash) and this matters to me.

Rit.

EDIT: And yes I know I would receive the same payout Smiley I just would like to HODL LTC at the moment.
full member
Activity: 123
Merit: 100
Singapore server is online: stratum+tcp://asia.clevermining.com:3333

Well, since no one else is saying it:

Thanks Terk!   Hopefully this pulls load off the US server even more and lowers the reject rate a little.   Until then... When will you be putting a server in my town?
newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
Singapore server is online: stratum+tcp://asia.clevermining.com:3333

any plans for an useast server ? please Smiley
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
Any ETA on when people that need accounts merged will be fixed?  I've kept mining since I like this pool, but my stashed bitcoins is getting up there (well for my meager hash-power).  No pressure just curious for a word.

[2]

no payouts yet for me too.

what is the point of mining if you cant get paid ?
full member
Activity: 174
Merit: 100
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Just a comment about profitability. Remember that its not just determined by how well other altcoin are performing against LTC but it also highly depends on the LTC/BTC exchange rate. We get paid in BTC not LTC after all. On march 3 the exchange rate was .0205.  Today its .02529.  Thats a 23% decrease in profits right there! Also the prices of both LTC and BTC have increased in the past few days. If the graphs displayed were in $/MH/day things would nearly look so bad.
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
Any ETA on when people that need accounts merged will be fixed?  I've kept mining since I like this pool, but my stashed bitcoins is getting up there (well for my meager hash-power).  No pressure just curious for a word.
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 522
Singapore server is online: stratum+tcp://asia.clevermining.com:3333
hero member
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Merit: 1000
I know there is an android app for CM, but is there an iphone app too?
Where do I find the api's to make one myself maybe?  Cheesy

You can simply use safari to open your stats, then you can simply use the "Add to home screen" option.

Also, the only more profitable coins right now are: NeoCoin, Coino and Mooncoin. All others are below LTC profitability. We should be mining Neocoin right now, which is at a 105% LTC profitability.
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