I will continue to address you in public. You want to hide in PM, and I'd rather let the people who want answers see what you have to say.
These coins don't disappear. If the coins are sold on markets, then it means that someone else bought them. So the coins still go to users who will actually use the coins. Nothing changes here.
The change is that at some point someone decides to buy a miner and use said miner to produce coins rather than buying them. This is most likely someone who will end up using these coins on a day to day basis, as that is what the coin was created for. When you're taking 50% of the coins out of the mining equation on any given day, you're taking coins out of miners hands.
If you came to that conclusion at the time you now claim you did, then well, you were not successful in implementing it. I recommended DIGI to another NLG developer in a PM sent on Sep 14th and I recommended it to you personally in a PM sent on Sep 16th. One week later you announced switching to DGW3. Then you finally implemented DIGI with the beginning of Feb, four months later. You can't blame me for you being unable to implement good solutions for four months.
Actually exactly 5 months ago I recommended you the solution which you failed to implement then and finally implemented only 4 days ago.
I'm not a dev. I'm just a community member. I, along with many others, made numerous suggestions to the devs of the coin. It's true that it's not your fault that it took that long to make any changes, but it was your fault that we continued to struggle with your pool's influence on the coin during that time. Don't sit back and claim innocence. Your pool, your responsibility.
I repeat: There is no difference wether we actually mine 50% or don't mine but control hashpower which is able to dominate your mining network. It's just the fact that somewhere there exists a hashpower which could take over your network - this is the problem. There are dozen of entities with this amount of hashpower, CM being only one of them, and you can't do anything about it. Wether we mine 50% blocks or 0% changes only perception, but doesn't solve the problem. Mining 50% blocks makes only the problem more visible to you. Not mining makes it less visible to you - and that's the only change. Us stopping mining won't change the problem - there still will be dozen of different entities each controlling enough hashpower to dominate your network at any time.
You're absolutely right. It's all about perception. You go absent for long periods of time. You let your pool rape our coin. You finally come back here to answer questions. When asked about the last 5 months, you sit back and tell us we should kiss your feet. Right now, my only perception of you is you're a greedy narcissist. I'm sure there are plenty of other people thinking the same thing in the NLG community.
So perception... yeah, let's talk about it. If you come back to mining NLG, you're sending a clear message to the NLG community that even though the profit made from mining 50% of the NLG a day was a "tiny amount", as pointed out in your first post today, you're going to continue to mine it. The only message that you're sending with that, that can't be perceived any other way, is "Fuck NLG".
Just leave NLG alone. Just lets us enjoy not having the cancer that has been your pool run our blockchain into the ground.
If you find a solution to this - and somehow prevent the other dozen entities to be able to control your network, then I'm ready to discuss what more CM can do for you. Until this happens, I refuse to decrease my users profit only to change your perception of the problem, but don't solve any real problem. Your coin is as much vulnerable with someone mining 50% or not mining but being able to mine. Think of it like 10 people accidentally holding copies of keys to your home. You are vulnerable, because if they decided to, they can go in and out whenever they please (as: attack the coin). 9 of these people are holding their keys in their pockets (are not mining) and you don't see them. 1 of these people have his copy in plain sight (is mining) and it annoys you. You really should be worried that 10 copies of the key exist, not that you can see 1 of them. The thing is that you can't take these keys back and these people cannot give them back even if they wanted. There are dozen of entities with high enough hashpower to dominate your network and they won't disappear. Me hiding my key in a pocket won't solve your problem. And I won't throw my key away (where key being controlling enough amount of hashrate) as it would require shutting the pool down.
You're a trip. "If you find a solution to MPs, let me know so I can adjust my pool to beat it". LOL... what CM can do for me. CM can kiss my ass. That's what it can do for me. I still don't understand how you can possibly think you're helping anyone in the NLG community. You are seriously delusional.
So again: I'm helping any way I can while running our pool at the same time. I reduced your max block time 20-fold. I recommended you the best readjustment algorithm four months before you finally decided to use it. But I won't stop mining NLG at all only for you to feel better, because it wouldn't solve any real problem.
Your idea of "cooperation with coin-switch pool" is the pool to stop mining at all. This is not cooperation and this is not going to happen. This is not coexistence. You would like us to stop existing at all. I can agree to solutions which decrease inconvenience to your users a lot (decreasing maximum block times from 580 minutes to 30 minutes) and don't decrease profitability of my users in a significant way, but I won't implement solutions which really don't improve NLG in any way (other than make you feel better) but decrease our users profitability.
No, cooperation would have been you not raping the shit out of our blockchain for 5 months. It would have been you not ignoring NLG all that time. 10%, 20%... anything besides the 50-90% you took everyday. If NLG is a "tiny amount" of the profit you make in a day, then it wouldn't be significant decrease in your miner's profits in any given day if you stopped. At most, you made a 1-2BTC a day mining NLG into the ground. Spread amoung how many users? You're seriously telling me that if that's a tiny portion of what you make in a day, you can adjust your mining to 10-20% and still not meet your profit goals by just mining a more profitable coin?
Again, perception... it really just looks like you either don't care about cooperating with anyone, or you're really bad at math.
I'm finishing discussing with you (and any other member of NLG community) in this thread because it's not the place for it - it's a support and announcement thread for communication between me and pool users. If your goal is to troll, then you can continue posting in this thread, but then I will simply ignore you and you will never hear from me again, let alone have a chance to ask me for something or try to convince me to something. If you really want to discuss something and try to convince me to something, then you already got my attention and show me that I should treat you seriously by stopping cluttering this thread and switching to PM.
I see you poked your head into the NLG thread, where people would LOVE to hear you talk about how much we should thank you for all your "cooperation". I'll see you over there from now on.
-Fuse
holy crap, you are THICK. Your issue isnt with Terk, its with your shitty altcoin that is seconds away from being crushed by any half-decent scrypt-mining farm or pool.
- redirects user hashrate to what is profitable.
- puts newly-mined coins into exchanges so that people can buy them (or not buy them, if the coin isnt worth anything)
- has around 1% of the total scrypt hashpower. This makes it insanely weak and suscpetible
- is incapable of handling an influx of hashrate, and does not adjust its blocktimes properly in accordance
You should be happy that clevermining is playing nice, when Terk could ACTUALLY rape and destroy your coin overnight very easily. Building a new coin based on an algorithm that's already in place and dominated by LTC is a terrible idea in the first place, and if Terk doesnt destoy it someone else will - either for profit or just for fun.
having the added hashrate of clevermining is supposed to be a good thing, you just dont see that