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Topic: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com - page 30. (Read 554380 times)

legendary
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As the only person who officially, or unofficially speaks for CM here, I'm sure you'll have something to say though, suchmoon.  You know, mate... I've read back in your posts history, and in the past you fought a lot of good fights over the ethics and morality of mining.  I just don't get how you can stand by CM, or more specifically, Terk.  The guy won't even address his own miners in his own thread.  Doesn't that say something?

Since you've been going through my post history you should have seen that I've never spoken "for CM", stood "by CM", or "specifically Terk". I'm mining in the pool, I have been here since the early days, and I'm trying to answer questions if I can.

You don't like me here because I don't agree with you about NLG, as I believe it's the coin dev's problem whereas you seem to think outside entities such as pools need to take responsibility. That's fine, but that doesn't make me a CM's or Terk's spokesperson. Disagreeing with someone in WafflePool thread doesn't make me a WP spokesperson. Disagreeing with someone in NiceHash thread doesn't make me an NH spokesperson.
legendary
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HODL for life.
How do we request a coin be added? I'd like to request Syscoin be added please. Thank you Smiley

AFAIK CM doesn't officially disclose which coins it mines unless you can figure that out indirectly (our friends with NLG seem to think they can). Are you sure it's not already mining Syscoin?

Not really indirectly finding out when it came from Terk himself in PM before he went AWOL:

Terk has gotten back to me.  He had originally limited the hashrate that was mining on NLG to a 4th of the total hashrate of the pool.  He has decreased that to an 8th of the total hashrate.  He asked that we monitor the chain and let him know how it looks.

While he hasn't agreed to stop mining NLG, he did agree to work with us to get things running smoothly.

-Fuse

Just to correct things. We put less than 8th of our pool hashrate to NLG.

CleverMining always had an algorithm to limit amount of hashrate pointed at any coin depending on coin difficulty, to don't pump the coin difficulty too much. It works great with DigiShield coins and works well with most KGW coins. I'm not sure why NLG is different here. Maybe KGW doesn't work well with longer times between blocks (most coins these days have 60-second blocks)?

What I did is limited amount of hashpower pointed to NLG to 1/8th of what we point at any other coin with the same difficulty. This isn't related to our total pool hashrate, it's related only to coin difficulty and expected time to find a block. We adjust our maximum allowed hashrate to coin difficulty to don't find blocks too fast. NLG has 8x handicap here from now on. This means we allow 8x less hashpower pointed to NLG than to other coins at the same difficulty.

NLG difficulty already dropped after this change and remains steady. Times between blocks started being more regular. I hope this will help regular pools to also find good blocks and will prevent high difficulty jumps and long times between blocks.

We don't want to withdraw away completely from NLG as we have responsibilities to our users. We promised them to maximize their profits and to mine coins which are profitable. But we also don't want to harm coins and this is why I wanted to find some middle ground between CleverMining users interests and Guldencoin community interests. I hope I found the right balance. I will keep this 8x handicap until Sep 26th when I heard you plan to launch the new difficulty readjustment algorithm.


Then he ramped up hashrate from 10-20% to now 70%(http://nlgstats.iblogger.org/)... nice middle ground, huh?

As the only person who officially, or unofficially speaks for CM here, I'm sure you'll have something to say though, suchmoon.  You know, mate... I've read back in your posts history, and in the past you fought a lot of good fights over ethics and morality in mining.  I just don't get how you can stand by CM, or more specifically, Terk.  The guy won't even address his own miners in his own thread.  Doesn't that say something?

-Fuse
legendary
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How do we request a coin be added? I'd like to request Syscoin be added please. Thank you Smiley

AFAIK CM doesn't officially disclose which coins it mines unless you can figure that out indirectly (our friends with NLG seem to think they can). Are you sure it's not already mining Syscoin?
legendary
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Syscoin- Changing the way people do business.
How do we request a coin be added? I'd like to request Syscoin be added please. Thank you Smiley
full member
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It seems that things aren't going to well with clevermining lately  Cheesy, have you heard something from Terk lately?, of coarse not!.
newbie
Activity: 40
Merit: 0
Haven't received a payout for January 7th yet. Did anyone else not receive their payout yet?

I have only received 1 payout January 6 and have mining for 4 days.  I thought is was everyday. What is going on?

What's your balance? Daily minimum is BTC0.01, weekly BTC0.001.

Ready for Payout  0.02779571 BTC   I am mining at 115 MH/S.  Last 24 hours 0.01828823 BTC Shouldn't be a problem on Mins

If you got 0.018 in 24 hours then perhaps your balance at the last payout was just slightly below 0.01. I'd suggest to wait another 24 hours and if you still don't get it by then try to contact Terk.
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legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
Haven't received a payout for January 7th yet. Did anyone else not receive their payout yet?

I have only received 1 payout January 6 and have mining for 4 days.  I thought is was everyday. What is going on?

What's your balance? Daily minimum is BTC0.01, weekly BTC0.001.

Ready for Payout  0.02779571 BTC   I am mining at 115 MH/S.  Last 24 hours 0.01828823 BTC Shouldn't be a problem on Mins

If you got 0.018 in 24 hours then perhaps your balance at the last payout was just slightly below 0.01. I'd suggest to wait another 24 hours and if you still don't get it by then try to contact Terk.
newbie
Activity: 40
Merit: 0
Haven't received a payout for January 7th yet. Did anyone else not receive their payout yet?

I have only received 1 payout January 6 and have mining for 4 days.  I thought is was everyday. What is going on?

What's your balance? Daily minimum is BTC0.01, weekly BTC0.001.

Ready for Payout  0.02779571 BTC   I am mining at 115 MH/S.  Last 24 hours 0.01828823 BTC Shouldn't be a problem on Mins
newbie
Activity: 40
Merit: 0
What's your balance? Daily minimum is BTC0.01, weekly BTC0.001.

Ready for Payout  0.02779571 BTC   I am mining at 115 MH/S
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
Haven't received a payout for January 7th yet. Did anyone else not receive their payout yet?

I have only received 1 payout January 6 and have mining for 4 days.  I thought is was everyday. What is going on?

What's your balance? Daily minimum is BTC0.01, weekly BTC0.001.
newbie
Activity: 40
Merit: 0
Haven't received a payout for January 7th yet. Did anyone else not receive their payout yet?

I have only received 1 payout January 6 and have mining for 4 days.  I thought is was everyday. What is going on?
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
Please add Syscoin to your pool for mining. It's merge minable with DOGECOIN and LITECOIN at the same time. Just would increaase profits and syscoin is a 2.0 crypto, with business on the blockchain #blockmarket lauching this month.

Lots of good things happening and prices rises. Hope you guys can add this coin to the merged mined coins. IRC #syscoin

Also, great multipool, been using for few weeks and so far I'm liking it.
newbie
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Haven't received a payout for January 7th yet. Did anyone else not receive their payout yet?
legendary
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Merit: 1000
Viacoin can now be merged mined with scrypt. Could this be added to CleverMining?
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
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On a non-guldencoin related question:

How come my 24 hour payout amount seldom - if ever - matches the BTC/day per MH/s multiplied by my avg hash rate per that 24 hours.

If, for some illogical reason, BTC/day per MH/s multiplied by my avg hash rate per that 24 hours is not what I should be getting paid, what is the secret formula?

Are you looking at the coins received in your wallet? This might not match due to immature/unexchanged/unpaid balance remaining at CM. If you include those it should match quite closely.

Yes, I'm looking at coins received because that's what matters.

Every day - with a very, very few exceptions, the BTC/day per MH/s multiplied by my avg hash rate per that 24 hours is more (usually by a good amount) than the btc I receive.

The next day is the same thing.

It's not like I ever receive an out-of-band catch up payment and the "immature/unexchanged/unpaid balance remaining at CM" every day appears to remain at CM forever.

Am I missing something besides a good amount of btc?

Also, is there some way to directly contact CM support/this person Terk, or is this thread the only means of support?

Thanks

Send a PM to Terk, that's then only way that I know of. Maybe a tweet would work too, not sure.

Are you looking at the 24 hour hashrate and the BTC/day rate at the same time when you are receiving your payment? Timing matters too. If you could show some numbers I could maybe help more. I have followed CM payouts for nearly a year and it has always been close to the displayed rate, so I'm genuinely curious why you would be seeing a difference.

What I'm doing is looking at the hashrate chart/graph for my miner. For each date there is a graph point that displays my 24 hr avg hashrate. I multiply that figure by the "BTC per 1 MH/s" obtained from the "Daily Details" chart for the same date.

Thanks for your help. Maybe, I'll try pm'img the mysterious/reclusive Terk or most likely I won't and will just accept what might be another passive/agressive rip-off by the altcoin industry. Plus, isn't there some requirement I have to meet in order to pm from this forum?

Just an observation (and this is in no way directed toward you; you provided much appreciated assistance and feedback) but based on my experience, the customer support/service in the altcoin industry is the worst of any industry with which I have ever been involved. I ordered a Titan from KncMiner and that experience was absolutely legendary in it's terribleness; it was so terrible it was awe-inspiring and beautiful in its own way.

To get in contact with somebody from Clevermining - whom I believe I am generating capital for when I mine there - is some mysterious, undocumented process which apparently requires pm'ing from this forum. Their website definitely isn't showing any Contact Us type of information and "Terk" isn't exactly a presence on this forum from what I can see.


To be fair he does publish his twitter account on the site, that's why I suggested that option too. But yes, he's been silent for quite a while now.

Regarding hashrate - I don't know if payouts for the day and hashrate average are taken at the same time, which could explain your discrepancy. The way I calculate profitability is take payouts for the last 24 hours plus the difference in immature+unexchanged +unpaid from the previous day. This has always been very close to the 24 hour rate at the top of the page. Again, I'm just guessing without numbers.

 
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
On a non-guldencoin related question:

How come my 24 hour payout amount seldom - if ever - matches the BTC/day per MH/s multiplied by my avg hash rate per that 24 hours.

If, for some illogical reason, BTC/day per MH/s multiplied by my avg hash rate per that 24 hours is not what I should be getting paid, what is the secret formula?

Are you looking at the coins received in your wallet? This might not match due to immature/unexchanged/unpaid balance remaining at CM. If you include those it should match quite closely.

Yes, I'm looking at coins received because that's what matters.

Every day - with a very, very few exceptions, the BTC/day per MH/s multiplied by my avg hash rate per that 24 hours is more (usually by a good amount) than the btc I receive.

The next day is the same thing.

It's not like I ever receive an out-of-band catch up payment and the "immature/unexchanged/unpaid balance remaining at CM" every day appears to remain at CM forever.

Am I missing something besides a good amount of btc?

Also, is there some way to directly contact CM support/this person Terk, or is this thread the only means of support?

Thanks

Send a PM to Terk, that's then only way that I know of. Maybe a tweet would work too, not sure.

Are you looking at the 24 hour hashrate and the BTC/day rate at the same time when you are receiving your payment? Timing matters too. If you could show some numbers I could maybe help more. I have followed CM payouts for nearly a year and it has always been close to the displayed rate, so I'm genuinely curious why you would be seeing a difference.

What I'm doing is looking at the hashrate chart/graph for my miner. For each date there is a graph point that displays my 24 hr avg hashrate. I multiply that figure by the "BTC per 1 MH/s" obtained from the "Daily Details" chart for the same date.

Thanks for your help. Maybe, I'll try pm'img the mysterious/reclusive Terk or most likely I won't and will just accept what might be another passive/agressive rip-off by the altcoin industry. Plus, isn't there some requirement I have to meet in order to pm from this forum?

Just an observation (and this is in no way directed toward you; you provided much appreciated assistance and feedback) but based on my experience, the customer support/service in the altcoin industry is the worst of any industry with which I have ever been involved. I ordered a Titan from KncMiner and that experience was absolutely legendary in it's terribleness; it was so terrible it was awe-inspiring and beautiful in its own way.

To get in contact with somebody from Clevermining - whom I believe I am generating capital for when I mine there - is some mysterious, undocumented process which apparently requires pm'ing from this forum. Their website definitely isn't showing any Contact Us type of information and "Terk" isn't exactly a presence on this forum from what I can see.

newbie
Activity: 43
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Looking for some ideas on what is going on with this. With this pool specifically i am seeing tons of requested work restart. This is slowing down the mining significantly isnt it? I also had wondered how the number worked out if you solve a block. Is there any way to be notified of that?

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc515/hood2880/Clevermining_zpsd5c18cf7.png
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
On a non-guldencoin related question:

How come my 24 hour payout amount seldom - if ever - matches the BTC/day per MH/s multiplied by my avg hash rate per that 24 hours.

If, for some illogical reason, BTC/day per MH/s multiplied by my avg hash rate per that 24 hours is not what I should be getting paid, what is the secret formula?

Are you looking at the coins received in your wallet? This might not match due to immature/unexchanged/unpaid balance remaining at CM. If you include those it should match quite closely.

Yes, I'm looking at coins received because that's what matters.

Every day - with a very, very few exceptions, the BTC/day per MH/s multiplied by my avg hash rate per that 24 hours is more (usually by a good amount) than the btc I receive.

The next day is the same thing.

It's not like I ever receive an out-of-band catch up payment and the "immature/unexchanged/unpaid balance remaining at CM" every day appears to remain at CM forever.

Am I missing something besides a good amount of btc?

Also, is there some way to directly contact CM support/this person Terk, or is this thread the only means of support?

Thanks

Send a PM to Terk, that's then only way that I know of. Maybe a tweet would work too, not sure.

Are you looking at the 24 hour hashrate and the BTC/day rate at the same time when you are receiving your payment? Timing matters too. If you could show some numbers I could maybe help more. I have followed CM payouts for nearly a year and it has always been close to the displayed rate, so I'm genuinely curious why you would be seeing a difference.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
A few days ago the European Cleverming server is giving me problems with repeated disconnections. In the end I changed the server USA and go without fault except a somewhat higher percentage of rejected, normal to have to go further to receive their shares.
Am I just pass me or is it generally a problem with the European servers?. My Titan is in Valencia Spain.

Regards



I was having a disconnection issue with the US server from about 12/21 - about 12/28. I'd wake up or come home from work to a not mining miner (Titan) showing a "Pool 1: Unknown stratum msg ..." type of error. I have a back up pool configured but failover didn't work.

It got so bad with so much downtime, I went over to litecoinpool.org for about a week. Since moving back to clevermining the issue hasn't recurred.

newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
On a non-guldencoin related question:

How come my 24 hour payout amount seldom - if ever - matches the BTC/day per MH/s multiplied by my avg hash rate per that 24 hours.

If, for some illogical reason, BTC/day per MH/s multiplied by my avg hash rate per that 24 hours is not what I should be getting paid, what is the secret formula?

Are you looking at the coins received in your wallet? This might not match due to immature/unexchanged/unpaid balance remaining at CM. If you include those it should match quite closely.

Yes, I'm looking at coins received because that's what matters.

Every day - with a very, very few exceptions, the BTC/day per MH/s multiplied by my avg hash rate per that 24 hours is more (usually by a good amount) than the btc I receive.

The next day is the same thing.

It's not like I ever receive an out-of-band catch up payment and the "immature/unexchanged/unpaid balance remaining at CM" every day appears to remain at CM forever.

Am I missing something besides a good amount of btc?

Also, is there some way to directly contact CM support/this person Terk, or is this thread the only means of support?

Thanks
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