Topic: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com - page 288. (Read 554387 times)
February 09, 2014, 06:29:29 PM
Couple of things. You should change the word "profits" on your site to "payout". You should also only include total paid out btc in the profitability statistics / info section. Including the unpaid balance isn't useful. I'd like to see the numbers only including the actual paid amounts.
February 09, 2014, 06:24:55 PM
according to my user page (http://www.clevermining.com/users/1KkfPxwQTsTawfuFgPxn78DuVvdJUxpcvv) I'm getting a fairly high amount of rejects... - any suggestions on how to tune this? My scantime is low like 5 or 10, expiry as well, queue is 0
any suggestions?
any suggestions?
Same here, I've gone back to Middlecoin for now I tried a range of combinations e.g.
expiry: 1
queue: 5
scantime: 1
expiry: 15
queue: 1
scantime: 15
expiry: 1
queue: 0
scantime: 1
Which seemed to be common combos from my searching, but still didn't help much if not made things worse.
February 09, 2014, 06:23:44 PM
i seeing that stats update every hour. i think thats tooo long.
February 09, 2014, 06:06:31 PM
according to my user page (http://www.clevermining.com/users/1KkfPxwQTsTawfuFgPxn78DuVvdJUxpcvv) I'm getting a fairly high amount of rejects... - any suggestions on how to tune this? My scantime is low like 5 or 10, expiry as well, queue is 0
any suggestions?
any suggestions?
February 09, 2014, 05:49:57 PM
Just to add, I am using --queue 0 --scan-time 1 --expiry 1. --expiry 1 is the only thing that isnt intuitive to me, I wasn't running it but I read it somewhere it was good for multipools.The other stats makes sense if you read the cgminer readme
February 09, 2014, 05:07:48 PM
Your profitability is pegged against litecoin - Is it the most profitable single coin out there?
I did a quick compare to Doge here : http://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/miningtobtc-ltc-doge.html because Doge was brought up earlier in discussion. Seems that as Doge seems to be a bit stronger than LiteCoin it may be a better benchmark for comparison.
I realize you can't cater to every coin, but perhaps put a couple other 'big' ones on there and it could help sell your site better?
Doge is a joke coin. Because of auto-switching pools raping the high-value blocks, the real profit from mining doge is much smaller then the projected income. Suffice to say, if you want to mine scrypt, you compare against the stable, highest hashrate, and non-retarded standard LTC.I did a quick compare to Doge here : http://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/miningtobtc-ltc-doge.html because Doge was brought up earlier in discussion. Seems that as Doge seems to be a bit stronger than LiteCoin it may be a better benchmark for comparison.
I realize you can't cater to every coin, but perhaps put a couple other 'big' ones on there and it could help sell your site better?
Interesting, thanks for the perspective.
February 09, 2014, 04:55:42 PM
I'm doing another try with Scan Time = 1 & Expiry = 60.
When I look at the stats collected by CGRemote, for the last 2.5 hours I get
Getworks 1658
Accepted 118
Rejected 2
Discarded 3101
Stale 9
What the Discarded mean? I'm pretty good to find answers to my questions on Google but no luck this time.
As additional infos, here some others stats:
https://i.imgur.com/oDeB3dq.png
When I look at the stats collected by CGRemote, for the last 2.5 hours I get
Getworks 1658
Accepted 118
Rejected 2
Discarded 3101
Stale 9
What the Discarded mean? I'm pretty good to find answers to my questions on Google but no luck this time.
As additional infos, here some others stats:
https://i.imgur.com/oDeB3dq.png
I think discarded shares are those that are not submitted by CG Miner due to a new block.
February 09, 2014, 04:44:31 PM
I'm doing another try with Scan Time = 1 & Expiry = 60.
When I look at the stats collected by CGRemote, for the last 2.5 hours I get
Getworks 1658
Accepted 118
Rejected 2
Discarded 3101
Stale 9
What the Discarded mean? I'm pretty good to find answers to my questions on Google but no luck this time.
As additional infos, here some others stats:
When I look at the stats collected by CGRemote, for the last 2.5 hours I get
Getworks 1658
Accepted 118
Rejected 2
Discarded 3101
Stale 9
What the Discarded mean? I'm pretty good to find answers to my questions on Google but no luck this time.
As additional infos, here some others stats:
February 09, 2014, 04:15:57 PM
how often do stats update?
February 09, 2014, 03:25:01 PM
I think they are UTC.
February 09, 2014, 03:03:01 PM
are payout timestamps EST?
February 09, 2014, 03:01:52 PM
Your profitability is pegged against litecoin - Is it the most profitable single coin out there?
I did a quick compare to Doge here : http://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/miningtobtc-ltc-doge.html because Doge was brought up earlier in discussion. Seems that as Doge seems to be a bit stronger than LiteCoin it may be a better benchmark for comparison.
I realize you can't cater to every coin, but perhaps put a couple other 'big' ones on there and it could help sell your site better?
Doge is a joke coin. Because of auto-switching pools raping the high-value blocks, the real profit from mining doge is much smaller then the projected income. Suffice to say, if you want to mine scrypt, you compare against the stable, highest hashrate, and non-retarded standard LTC.I did a quick compare to Doge here : http://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/miningtobtc-ltc-doge.html because Doge was brought up earlier in discussion. Seems that as Doge seems to be a bit stronger than LiteCoin it may be a better benchmark for comparison.
I realize you can't cater to every coin, but perhaps put a couple other 'big' ones on there and it could help sell your site better?
I also agree with you on this. Comparing to Doge coin is not a good idea. Even the creators of Doge coin were surprised with the value seeing as they made it to be a novelty/joke coin, much like Coinye was going to be before its demise.
That being said, it can a very profitable coin to mine assuming the other pools are not also mining it. I always get flack for saying this, but what makes Doge coin's price swing so bad is when huge multipools like MC or HC switch to it then have to dump the massive, massive amount of coins, it drives the price down. Once they stop, people rise the price again to make a killing when this cycle happens again. How do I know? I do this a lot along with some other large miner's I know. There is good money to be made riding the Doge waves every night when MC and HC does their exchange.
February 09, 2014, 02:57:56 PM
I tried again with increased intensity and the reject rate has jumped.
With my usual -I setting i get over 9% rejects. But this way i get over 1770 WU and higher hasrate.
With reduced intensity i get a little over 1400 WU and lower hashret but between 2% and 3% rejects.
Which is better ? The WUs are the actual work units, so the higher number - the better and rejects are considered, correct ?
With my usual -I setting i get over 9% rejects. But this way i get over 1770 WU and higher hasrate.
With reduced intensity i get a little over 1400 WU and lower hashret but between 2% and 3% rejects.
Which is better ? The WUs are the actual work units, so the higher number - the better and rejects are considered, correct ?
Whats cards are you running ?
couple of r9 290x on that one
OMG, I can't get more them 1400-1450 WU on my 290x, do you mind sharing your config ?
I run 4 R9 290's and they run solid at 3.28 MH/s with a 6% reject rate (does jump here and there). My settings are Thread - 32650. - Intensity - 20. Worker size - 512 (I have tried 1024 with no real increase, but higher reject rate). 1 GPU thread and 1 Vector. I use GUIMiner with scrypt. I do NOT have the cards overclocked. Everytime I try to move the memory/core clock even +5 I get lower hash rates. Stupid 1st release cards.
I have had good success on 1 of the cards running Thread at 24550 and the rest of the settings stock with +7 powertune in MSI Afterburner. This takes the card from 830kh/s to 875kh/s stable. But only 1 of my 4 cards will accept this without crashing. I have to figure out the issue there, but that is also the only 290 in its own rig. Other 3 are on 1 motherboard with 2 PSU's so that may be the issue. Or the OS load may be the issue.
February 09, 2014, 02:50:25 PM
I am going to throw a few rigs on this and see what happens. Interested.
February 09, 2014, 02:35:57 PM
Your profitability is pegged against litecoin - Is it the most profitable single coin out there?
I did a quick compare to Doge here : http://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/miningtobtc-ltc-doge.html because Doge was brought up earlier in discussion. Seems that as Doge seems to be a bit stronger than LiteCoin it may be a better benchmark for comparison.
I realize you can't cater to every coin, but perhaps put a couple other 'big' ones on there and it could help sell your site better?
Doge is a joke coin. Because of auto-switching pools raping the high-value blocks, the real profit from mining doge is much smaller then the projected income. Suffice to say, if you want to mine scrypt, you compare against the stable, highest hashrate, and non-retarded standard LTC. I did a quick compare to Doge here : http://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/miningtobtc-ltc-doge.html because Doge was brought up earlier in discussion. Seems that as Doge seems to be a bit stronger than LiteCoin it may be a better benchmark for comparison.
I realize you can't cater to every coin, but perhaps put a couple other 'big' ones on there and it could help sell your site better?
February 09, 2014, 02:23:11 PM
Going to wait 24 hours though to assess the whole situation!
February 09, 2014, 02:21:46 PM
9%+ reject rate, this is on two different machines. One with 7950 and one with 5870, so it's not my settings because megamultipool does way better on same settings. Sadlly the reject rate situation is something I left middlecoin for and moved to megamultipool. It seems unless the reject rate situation is resolved clevermining aint so clever!
9% reject rate is over a period of 17 hours, I started with you that much time ago and I guess I will have to go back to megamultipool!
9% reject rate is over a period of 17 hours, I started with you that much time ago and I guess I will have to go back to megamultipool!
February 09, 2014, 01:43:46 PM
I tried again with increased intensity and the reject rate has jumped.
With my usual -I setting i get over 9% rejects. But this way i get over 1770 WU and higher hasrate.
With reduced intensity i get a little over 1400 WU and lower hashret but between 2% and 3% rejects.
Which is better ? The WUs are the actual work units, so the higher number - the better and rejects are considered, correct ?
With my usual -I setting i get over 9% rejects. But this way i get over 1770 WU and higher hasrate.
With reduced intensity i get a little over 1400 WU and lower hashret but between 2% and 3% rejects.
Which is better ? The WUs are the actual work units, so the higher number - the better and rejects are considered, correct ?
Whats cards are you running ?
I would stick with your original intensity. In my experience, lowering intensity gets lower rejects, but at the end of the day, you are submitting less shares (after a really long period). Short term it looks better to get your rejects down, and if we lived in a perfect world, you could rely on it working out. However, mining is imperfect and fluctuates constantly, especially in multi coin pools. So sticking with your original WU of 1770 will pay off in the long run because you are essentially raising your "luck" factor. Multicoin pools have higher rejects than regular pools. It's just the way it is when your dealing with lots of coin switches, different block rates and difficulties. I think way too many people over think thier rejects and forget that rejects fluctuate constantly. You may have 9% one hour, but you may only have 1% the next hour. In the end, it's best to throw all your hashing power in, set it and forget it. You have to think long term. Short term variance is very high on multi pools. It's all about your payout over time.
Thanks for the reply.
What you say makes sense. Better throw more at it and deal with the rejects. I don't have 24hrs on that pool yet so it is early to judge.
From my experience with multipools the payouts and the rejects vary day after day.
For 29 days at middlecoin i averaged a decent payout with that rig and that same config but every day was just so different. But it was rare to have more than 3% - 4% reject for 4-5 day average.
Yeah I hear ya. I also have 2 290s and I've messed around with the intensities enough on middlecoin to find that there is just too much out of your control. Some coins have high reject rates. Servers get tweaked. Things are constantly changing. Just the way it is. Only thing you can control is your hashrate so I found it better to just go all in for the long haul. Some days I got as much as 10% rejects. Other days I got 0.1 %. With the same exact settings. It's just not worth worrying about because I still got great payouts.
February 09, 2014, 01:35:43 PM
I tried again with increased intensity and the reject rate has jumped.
With my usual -I setting i get over 9% rejects. But this way i get over 1770 WU and higher hasrate.
With reduced intensity i get a little over 1400 WU and lower hashret but between 2% and 3% rejects.
Which is better ? The WUs are the actual work units, so the higher number - the better and rejects are considered, correct ?
With my usual -I setting i get over 9% rejects. But this way i get over 1770 WU and higher hasrate.
With reduced intensity i get a little over 1400 WU and lower hashret but between 2% and 3% rejects.
Which is better ? The WUs are the actual work units, so the higher number - the better and rejects are considered, correct ?
Whats cards are you running ?
couple of r9 290x on that one
OMG, I can't get more them 1400-1450 WU on my 290x, do you mind sharing your config ?
February 09, 2014, 01:22:12 PM
I tried again with increased intensity and the reject rate has jumped.
With my usual -I setting i get over 9% rejects. But this way i get over 1770 WU and higher hasrate.
With reduced intensity i get a little over 1400 WU and lower hashret but between 2% and 3% rejects.
Which is better ? The WUs are the actual work units, so the higher number - the better and rejects are considered, correct ?
With my usual -I setting i get over 9% rejects. But this way i get over 1770 WU and higher hasrate.
With reduced intensity i get a little over 1400 WU and lower hashret but between 2% and 3% rejects.
Which is better ? The WUs are the actual work units, so the higher number - the better and rejects are considered, correct ?
Whats cards are you running ?
I would stick with your original intensity. In my experience, lowering intensity gets lower rejects, but at the end of the day, you are submitting less shares (after a really long period). Short term it looks better to get your rejects down, and if we lived in a perfect world, you could rely on it working out. However, mining is imperfect and fluctuates constantly, especially in multi coin pools. So sticking with your original WU of 1770 will pay off in the long run because you are essentially raising your "luck" factor. Multicoin pools have higher rejects than regular pools. It's just the way it is when your dealing with lots of coin switches, different block rates and difficulties. I think way too many people over think thier rejects and forget that rejects fluctuate constantly. You may have 9% one hour, but you may only have 1% the next hour. In the end, it's best to throw all your hashing power in, set it and forget it. You have to think long term. Short term variance is very high on multi pools. It's all about your payout over time.
Thanks for the reply.
What you say makes sense. Better throw more at it and deal with the rejects. I don't have 24hrs on that pool yet so it is early to judge.
From my experience with multipools the payouts and the rejects vary day after day.
For 29 days at middlecoin i averaged a decent payout with that rig and that same config but every day was just so different. But it was rare to have more than 3% - 4% reject for 4-5 day average.
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